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Re: Trucking technology [Re: Mark Perry] #14405060 06/26/22 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
Self-drive has the potential to put a lot of people out of work.



Yep. Lots of good people willose their jobs. Another gut punch for the middle class and working man.


Tech does and has been doing that ever since the computer and mechanization.
Fact is Henry Ford's assembly line and it going over to many other products put many small businesses out of work.

One instance I remember reading about when I was a kid. Cesar Chavez was negotiating with farmers for higher pay. I can't remember the product but I think it was lettuce. The producers said that X is the highest hourly wage they could afford without automizing production. Chavez and his group stood their ground and the next season most of the harvesting was done by machine.


Edit: They standardize the mailbox and my old job would take huge losses to the workers too.



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Originally Posted by Allison1
Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
Self-drive has the potential to put a lot of people out of work.



Yep. Lots of good people willose their jobs. Another gut punch for the middle class and working man.


Tech does and has been doing that ever since the computer and mechanization.
Fact is Henry Ford's assembly line and it going over to many other products put many small businesses out of work.

One instance I remember reading about when I was a kid. Cesar Chavez was negotiating with farmers for higher pay. I can't remember the product but I think it was lettuce. The producers said that X is the highest hourly wage they could afford without automizing production. Chavez and his group stood their ground and the next season most of the harvesting was done by machine.


Edit: They standardize the mailbox and my old job would take huge losses to the workers too.




No matter how long it's been going on it still sucks for the working class.

Re: Trucking technology [Re: Allison1] #14405074 06/26/22 04:50 PM
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Dallas to ca? Low traffic?

Flagstaff in winter, sudden snow storm, can't wait to see that on the news.

Another assinine idea from those who think they can force change.


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: Allison1] #14405086 06/26/22 05:06 PM
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They will all still end up in the left hand lane going 60mph.


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: J.P. Greeson] #14405126 06/26/22 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
Self-drive has the potential to put a lot of people out of work.

Also potential for new jobs. We all have to adapt- or learn a skill that can’t be farmed out

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Imagine how hard it would be to have an automated mailman riding around in an automated truck delivering mail.

Re: Trucking technology [Re: grandbassslayer] #14405135 06/26/22 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
Self-drive has the potential to put a lot of people out of work.

Also potential for new jobs. We all have to adapt- or learn a skill that can’t be farmed out

I imagine the paint and body business will get a big boost.


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: bloo_rainger] #14405141 06/26/22 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bloo_rainger
Imagine how hard it would be to have an automated mailman riding around in an automated truck delivering mail.


The post office will be the last to convert.
When we first started using scanners in the late 90's, the scanner they chose had been a UPS scanner that they had already upgraded from.
When they upgraded again around 2017 I noticed one like it at Sam's Club. When I told the clerk she said that scanner was a spare that was used when their current ones went down.

Earlier this year the post office made a committment to buy new vehicles. Their last vehicle was built in the early 90's. They opted to buy almost all ICE vehicles, saying they could not afford EV's. Congress even had a special investigation into it.
So when they start delivering the new vehicles they will once again be behind.




Re: Trucking technology [Re: Allison1] #14405154 06/26/22 07:02 PM
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I sure the gps systems in the truck have been updated and vastly improved.
qualcomm showed me to be almost 275 mi. out of route on a high value load, had to text a picture at the next weigh station to prove where I was.

had both systems in trucks for tracking and communicating, they were far from perfect up to 2008.


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: J.P. Greeson] #14405158 06/26/22 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
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Self-drive has the potential to put a lot of people out of work.

They won’t lose jobs. They’ll be loaders and unloader now.

How long before a robotic arm is installed that eliminates loaders and unloaders as well? There are a lot of benefits to self-driving, but there will also be losses. It will be great for seniors and in the long run will greatly reduce vehicle-related fatalities, but it will also put truck drivers, cab drivers, bus drivers and pretty much anyone in mass transit out of a job.



ambulance drivers will probably be in higher demand imo. nuts


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: Allison1] #14405161 06/26/22 07:07 PM
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so will kids still pump their arm to get the bot to blow the horn?

think of the children! C'mon Man!


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Re: Trucking technology [Re: hopalong] #14405167 06/26/22 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
I sure the gps systems in the truck have been updated and vastly improved.
qualcomm showed me to be almost 275 mi. out of route on a high value load, had to text a picture at the next weigh station to prove where I was.

had both systems in trucks for tracking and communicating, they were far from perfect up to 2008.


That reminds me of a story I was told by a truck manager back when they were first implimenting GPS. She talked about a certain driver that was breaking down all the time. When they installed tracking they noticed he always broke down near casino's.

The same lady told me about the mailman who I was delivering behind. He was always taking any mail that was not correctly addressed and returning it. We are supposed to deliver anything that we know even if the address is wrong. The lady told me "We love Tod but he almost put us out of business" after I asked why there was a special mail count on their mail every day.


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According to the American Truckers Association, the U.S. is short about 80,000 drivers. Maybe this will help fill the gap.

Re: Trucking technology [Re: Allison1] #14405182 06/26/22 07:24 PM
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Will dogs still chase trucks without drivers? confused 3

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Originally Posted by Allison1
Originally Posted by bloo_rainger
Imagine how hard it would be to have an automated mailman riding around in an automated truck delivering mail.


The post office will be the last to convert.
When we first started using scanners in the late 90's, the scanner they chose had been a UPS scanner that they had already upgraded from.
When they upgraded again around 2017 I noticed one like it at Sam's Club. When I told the clerk she said that scanner was a spare that was used when their current ones went down.

Earlier this year the post office made a committment to buy new vehicles. Their last vehicle was built in the early 90's. They opted to buy almost all ICE vehicles, saying they could not afford EV's. Congress even had a special investigation into it.
So when they start delivering the new vehicles they will once again be behind.



The post office is totally different- it’s ran like a government monopoly- worst attitudes on earth are at the post office. How many businesses are allowed to use the mail box at your home? A mailbox that’s privately owned.

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