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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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05/06/22 04:32 PM
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921 Phoenix
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Trump tried to get this corrected by getting rid of DACA and sending the immigration issue to Congress. Unfortunately, Congress did what it always does and took the easy route and sued to have it reinstated. HOW the courts ever agreed that it was legal is beyond me. We need to fix our immigration laws and put an end to the madness. Close the borders so we can know who is coming in, make becoming a citizen or legal resident much easier and less time consuming, and get these people on the tax rolls. It's just not that difficult. Will it cost some politicians votes? Maybe. Who cares? Of course, once they are legal, things like maid services at hotels, lawn care, building, farming, etc. will all go up in prices and people are going to complain about that... Trump actually told congress and democrats if they would fund the wall, he would sign EO to make all DACA have legal residence and path to citizenship, You see that never happen Now that the Dems control the senate and the house DACA has been shut down and no new renewal, I thought the Dems would of done something about DACA, but I guess not. I get a laugh out of anyone that thinks that either Party "controls" the Senate with a 50/50 split and it takes 60 votes to move any legislation on immigration to a final vote. Pres Eisenhower was the last President with any stones to try to fix the problem. We agree that a 50/50 split doesn’t move the needle but unless the next election gets a 60 vote majority republicans won’t do anything either I think what most though the democrats who railed trump over this would have at least tried
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 04:47 PM
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They are working, and killing American jobs. In my world, we are a world wide publicly traded company. Everyone we hire has to be legit, we play by the book.
However, joe blow down the street is an independent making the same product I am. He pays very close to the same price for raw materials yet, his labor costs are significantly less than ours. He pays less per hour, less or no benefits, and carves out a great living on the backs of those who cannot work anywhere else.
To me, all this equates to the Democrats modern form of slavery.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 04:53 PM
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Pilothawk
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I am certain someone knows, but the answer will never, ever be stated.
I wonder what percentage of the millions Brandon’s have allowed into our country are actually fully employed.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 04:55 PM
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RedRanger
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Funny thing I am seeing now, is the tenured Illegal aliens who have been in the area for decades are now dealing with Illegals from like Honduras, Gautama, El Salvador, etc
They are killing the illegal aliens who have been here for years like jobs of painting, etc due to the fact the are bidding the jobs so cheap.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: RedRanger]
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05/06/22 05:03 PM
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BassFever
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I have zero problems with them working here. What I would want to see is them coming here legally and paying their fair share of the taxes too. As it stands, they make the cash and send a lot of it back to Mexico. Never pay a damn cent in helping the tax burden of other people. I have no issue with them working here either. I get my yard mowed, Weedeated, grass blown for $25 per week in the mowing season, I am all good for cheap labor. This is part of the problem.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 05:08 PM
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Easy cure build a wall shoot anyone who comes over illegally. We should stop all free money to people, if they want to eat let them go get the same jobs problem fixed. no one should come In and stay without being a citizen period we shouldn’t be teaching other countries like China and Middle East how to do everything we do. That is how China stole everything
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 07:57 PM
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TCK73
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A good wall with automated machine guns would be a start, they had one in Germany years ago and it was effective. JFK even said it was better than a war.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: RedRanger]
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05/06/22 08:11 PM
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butch sanders
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Funny thing I am seeing now, is the tenured Illegal aliens who have been in the area for decades are now dealing with Illegals from like Honduras, Gautama, El Salvador, etc
They are killing the illegal aliens who have been here for years like jobs of painting, etc due to the fact the are bidding the jobs so cheap. this exactly we are absorbing the Central Americans as far as laborers go nobody beats them $5.50 an hour
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: TCK73]
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05/06/22 08:12 PM
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butch sanders
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A good wall with automated machine guns would be a start, they had one in Germany years ago and it was effective. JFK even said it was better than a war. a wall in America will not work at all completely different environments i admit Berlin was effective though
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: butch sanders]
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05/06/22 08:14 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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A good wall with automated machine guns would be a start, they had one in Germany years ago and it was effective. JFK even said it was better than a war. a wall in America will not work at all completely different environments i admit Berlin was effective though we just need to add land mines. problem solved.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Allison1]
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05/06/22 09:31 PM
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Nobody today has an integrated plan on how to solve immigration.
The first thing you have to do is count and identify the problem. Then apply a plan that works for America. The last time we could have done that easily was when Reagan offered them citizenship.
If we had then initiated laws designed to make it hard for illegals to obtain work, live and survive in the US we would not be where we are today. Whether its schooling, where they live, work or travel if we had a set of laws to address all of those things the problem would be small.
The problem today and apparently when Reagan did this is that there is not a national consensus on the problem.
I am probably just nitpicking, but I completely disagree with the statement "Nobody today has an integrated plan on how to solve immigration." Although you can never completely eliminate illegal immigration, you can most certainly have a legal immigration plan. We actually have one, but it is being ignored. There may not be a 100% agreed solution as to what to do with the current illegal immigrant population, but there sure as heck is a way to control immigration. There are those that old immigration policies "take too long." Tough. So does medical college. Do you want to cut that back to 2 years? Having the freedoms and liberties that America offers isn't free and easy. To me it an absolute crime that there are people spending lots of money and time to legally migrate to this country, yet there are thousands that are allowed to bypass the system. And then those lawbreakers are rewarded for doing it! The individuals in government that want to allow continued illegal immigration, live in gated and walled communities, where they will be affected by someone crossing their sovereign border. I wonder how generous Sleepy Joe and Nancy Foolosi would be if they came home and found a tent city on their yard?
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: RedRanger]
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05/06/22 09:34 PM
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Tiltman
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Funny thing I am seeing now, is the tenured Illegal aliens who have been in the area for decades are now dealing with Illegals from like Honduras, Gautama, El Salvador, etc
They are killing the illegal aliens who have been here for years like jobs of painting, etc due to the fact the are bidding the jobs so cheap. and doing awful work but times are so desperate people don't care
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/06/22 09:52 PM
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R83steve
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Put them on nonstop flights to Russia or Ukraine, tell them to pick a side, and tell them good luck.
"Sometimes I guess there just aren’t enough rocks “. Forest Gump
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: butch sanders]
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05/07/22 12:07 AM
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TR176
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A good wall with automated machine guns would be a start, they had one in Germany years ago and it was effective. JFK even said it was better than a war. a wall in America will not work at all completely different environments i admit Berlin was effective though I hope the taxpayer wall built around JBs beach estate works if not we would have wasted $500,000.00.
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Re: Illegal aliens working
[Re: Donpilot]
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05/07/22 12:17 AM
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Tneel
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The business man might get cheap labor while the rest of us pay for their government subsidies.
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