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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: hopalong]
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07/19/20 04:17 PM
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John175☮
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I chuckle reading all the anti mask stuff. I mean, geez, just because Walmart is requiring a mask doesn't mean you can't still wear your pajamas to shop. hmmmm, hadn't thought of that. for the record, I am not anti mask if you want to wear one, go ahead. Pick's just anti-Trump and anything he can do to divide everyone into groups is fun for him. Dont think he gives a hoot about the issue beyond his mask nazi stance on the internet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...of-a-medical-condition/%3foutputType=amp
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: Icepick]
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07/19/20 05:33 PM
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JacksonBean
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I'm curious Hop...I know that they won't let anyone in a clinic or hospital without a mask so how would you get an exception to not wear a mask? Maybe telemedicine and then they fax you your excuse? Bring it out to your truck in the parking lot? How obtuse. It’s called discrimination. Spend two minutes reading the Americans with Disabilities Act that’s been mentioned four hundred times of late.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: hopalong]
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07/19/20 05:33 PM
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diggerwolf
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went to the va to make an appt. handed me a mask and I hung it around my neck, went in and guy at the computer had his on the same way. I now do telemed
as for an "excuse", I have well documented health problems and you don't get an id card detailing them. if wal mart wants to hand me a mask, I will put it on around my neck and proceed, I am wearing a mask. after all this started I went to atwoods, mask policy, explained why I couldn't wear one and they handed me a face shield that I wore, did absolutely nothing to stop anything but made everyone else feel good, felt like I should have a grinder in my hand tho. I'm curious. If you're too sick to wear a simple mask, shouldn't you avoid high risk places like Walmart?
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!" ― Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: crankn101]
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07/19/20 07:16 PM
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Allison1
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I would call my doctor to see if I had a reason to not wear a mask and then try to get them to send me a note showing their opinion. There is no blanket ADA exemption for people with disabilities to not wear masks, only certain people. Here is a notice from the DOJ talking about fake notices and recommending anyone with concerns to call the ADA for questions regarding the law. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...nd-postings-regarding-use-face-masks-andI would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk. If I was in that group, I would try to get the store to help me shop from my car or get a friend to do my shopping.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: diggerwolf]
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07/19/20 07:19 PM
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hopalong
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went to the va to make an appt. handed me a mask and I hung it around my neck, went in and guy at the computer had his on the same way. I now do telemed
as for an "excuse", I have well documented health problems and you don't get an id card detailing them. if wal mart wants to hand me a mask, I will put it on around my neck and proceed, I am wearing a mask. after all this started I went to atwoods, mask policy, explained why I couldn't wear one and they handed me a face shield that I wore, did absolutely nothing to stop anything but made everyone else feel good, felt like I should have a grinder in my hand tho. I'm curious. If you're too sick to wear a simple mask, shouldn't you avoid high risk places like Walmart? shouldn't you avoid driving? maybe you should avoid walking, that new dam comet may fly down on your head. for gods sake don't go fishin, you might drown. how bout you suggest what someone that lives in the middle of nowhere should do to get groceries and other needed stuff. keep tryin with the nitpickin bs, y'all are amazing at how far out you will push just to get some ignorant line typed. besides, IF EVERYONE ELSE IS WEARING A MASK, HOW AM I GOING TO TRANSMIT TO THEM EVEN IF I HAD IT?
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: crankn101]
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07/19/20 07:23 PM
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steveiam
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Hop- You can shop around me with no mask anytime, you don’t scare me. If I wear my mask, I should be ok-
That’s what I’m being told anyway-
Last edited by steveiam; 07/19/20 07:27 PM.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: steveiam]
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07/19/20 07:26 PM
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hopalong
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Hop- You can shop around me with no mask anytime, you don’t don’t scare me. If I wear my mask, I should be ok-
That’s what I’m being told anyway- 
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: Allison1]
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07/19/20 07:35 PM
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JacksonBean
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I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk What about people with respiratory disabilities, post-traumatic stress disorder, severe anxiety, claustrophobia, autism, and cerebral palsy? Not very “at risk.”
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: JacksonBean]
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07/19/20 07:49 PM
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Allison1
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I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk What about people with respiratory disabilities, post-traumatic stress disorder, severe anxiety, claustrophobia, autism, and cerebral palsy? Not very “at risk.” I don't know which of those have been associated with high risk from Covid but if they were, yes, I would think they would be more likely to find other methods to get stuff from stores. Ask a friend, find a store that will deliver to the car, etc. " The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations." The governors EO is a legitimate safety concern. There has to be a way to shop if you want to but just allowing anyone who says they are exempt is going to create a large number of people who are bypassing the rules intended to keep the public safe. Its not discrimination for a store to ask for proof that a person has a legitimate reason to not wear a mask. Then if he has a reason the store should, in the spirit of the EO, try to encourage distancing from that person IMO.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: Allison1]
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07/19/20 08:01 PM
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hopalong
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I would call my doctor to see if I had a reason to not wear a mask and then try to get them to send me a note showing their opinion. There is no blanket ADA exemption for people with disabilities to not wear masks, only certain people. Here is a notice from the DOJ talking about fake notices and recommending anyone with concerns to call the ADA for questions regarding the law. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...nd-postings-regarding-use-face-masks-andI would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk. If I was in that group, I would try to get the store to help me shop from my car or get a friend to do my shopping. how is this for a "note"? pretty sure everyone on here knows this is my truck, not some stolen picture. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/07/full-33597-60023-20200719_144950_li.jpg) maybe I should go back and question my drs. both civilian and at the va? maybe, just maybe they were wrong and the tff mask gestapo is right?
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: crankn101]
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07/19/20 08:06 PM
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Allison1
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Yeah but hop, your plate means diddly about you needing a mask or not, plus you refused to show proof to the store that you had a medical reason to not use a face mask.
As in my last two posts, from the DOJ, "The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations."
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: Allison1]
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07/19/20 08:24 PM
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WAWI
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Yeah but hop, your plate means diddly about you needing a mask or not, plus you refused to show proof to the store that you had a medical reason to not use a face mask.
As in my last two posts, from the DOJ, "The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations." The store cant ask for proof. It is a violation of ada. Just like we cant ask for proof that a dog is a service animal. The dems crammed all the ada stuff down business throat. Now you dont want to follow it.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: crankn101]
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07/19/20 08:32 PM
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Kattelyn
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Jesus. Y’all are still going on. 
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: crankn101]
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07/19/20 08:34 PM
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Gusick
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Maybe we need to have some kind of glass bubble to put over disabled people's head if they can't wear a surgery mask. I'm envisioning something like diving helmet or a space helmet, but with top vents instead of an oxygen tube.
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Re: Face masks and Science
[Re: Gusick]
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07/19/20 08:37 PM
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WAWI
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Maybe we need to have some kind of glass bubble to put over disabled people's head if they can't wear a surgery mask. I'm envisioning something like diving helmet or a space helmet, but with top vents instead of an oxygen tube. Float that around at the next democrat gathering you attend lol.
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