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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: hopalong] #13636059 07/19/20 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
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I chuckle reading all the anti mask stuff.
I mean, geez, just because Walmart is requiring a mask doesn't mean you can't still wear your pajamas to shop.

hmmmm, hadn't thought of that.

for the record, I am not anti mask if you want to wear one, go ahead.



Pick's just anti-Trump and anything he can do to divide everyone into groups is fun for him. Dont think he gives a hoot about the issue beyond his mask nazi stance on the internet.

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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: Icepick] #13636121 07/19/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Icepick
I'm curious Hop...I know that they won't let anyone in a clinic or hospital without a mask so how would you get an exception to not wear a mask? Maybe telemedicine and then they fax you your excuse? Bring it out to your truck in the parking lot?



How obtuse. It’s called discrimination.

Spend two minutes reading the Americans with Disabilities Act that’s been mentioned four hundred times of late.


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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: hopalong] #13636122 07/19/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
went to the va to make an appt. handed me a mask and I hung it around my neck, went in and guy at the computer had his on the same way. I now do telemed


as for an "excuse", I have well documented health problems and you don't get an id card detailing them.
if wal mart wants to hand me a mask, I will put it on around my neck and proceed, I am wearing a mask.
after all this started I went to atwoods, mask policy, explained why I couldn't wear one and they handed me a face shield that I wore, did absolutely nothing to stop anything but made everyone else feel good, felt like I should have a grinder in my hand tho.


I'm curious. If you're too sick to wear a simple mask, shouldn't you avoid high risk places like Walmart?


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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: crankn101] #13636208 07/19/20 07:16 PM
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I would call my doctor to see if I had a reason to not wear a mask and then try to get them to send me a note showing their opinion. There is no blanket ADA exemption for people with disabilities to not wear masks, only certain people.

Here is a notice from the DOJ talking about fake notices and recommending anyone with concerns to call the ADA for questions regarding the law.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...nd-postings-regarding-use-face-masks-and


I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk. If I was in that group, I would try to get the store to help me shop from my car or get a friend to do my shopping.

Re: Face masks and Science [Re: diggerwolf] #13636214 07/19/20 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by diggerwolf
Originally Posted by hopalong
went to the va to make an appt. handed me a mask and I hung it around my neck, went in and guy at the computer had his on the same way. I now do telemed


as for an "excuse", I have well documented health problems and you don't get an id card detailing them.
if wal mart wants to hand me a mask, I will put it on around my neck and proceed, I am wearing a mask.
after all this started I went to atwoods, mask policy, explained why I couldn't wear one and they handed me a face shield that I wore, did absolutely nothing to stop anything but made everyone else feel good, felt like I should have a grinder in my hand tho.


I'm curious. If you're too sick to wear a simple mask, shouldn't you avoid high risk places like Walmart?



shouldn't you avoid driving? maybe you should avoid walking, that new dam comet may fly down on your head. for gods sake don't go fishin, you might drown.

how bout you suggest what someone that lives in the middle of nowhere should do to get groceries and other needed stuff.

keep tryin with the nitpickin bs, y'all are amazing at how far out you will push just to get some ignorant line typed.


besides, IF EVERYONE ELSE IS WEARING A MASK, HOW AM I GOING TO TRANSMIT TO THEM EVEN IF I HAD IT?


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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: crankn101] #13636218 07/19/20 07:23 PM
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You can shop around me with no mask anytime, you don’t scare me.
If I wear my mask, I should be ok-

That’s what I’m being told anyway-

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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: steveiam] #13636220 07/19/20 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by steveiam
Hop-
You can shop around me with no mask anytime, you don’t don’t scare me.
If I wear my mask, I should be ok-

That’s what I’m being told anyway-



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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: Allison1] #13636229 07/19/20 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk



What about people with respiratory disabilities, post-traumatic stress disorder, severe anxiety, claustrophobia, autism, and cerebral palsy? Not very “at risk.”


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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: JacksonBean] #13636231 07/19/20 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JacksonBean
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I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk



What about people with respiratory disabilities, post-traumatic stress disorder, severe anxiety, claustrophobia, autism, and cerebral palsy? Not very “at risk.”


I don't know which of those have been associated with high risk from Covid but if they were, yes, I would think they would be more likely to find other methods to get stuff from stores. Ask a friend, find a store that will deliver to the car, etc.
" The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations."

The governors EO is a legitimate safety concern. There has to be a way to shop if you want to but just allowing anyone who says they are exempt is going to create a large number of people who are bypassing the rules intended to keep the public safe. Its not discrimination for a store to ask for proof that a person has a legitimate reason to not wear a mask. Then if he has a reason the store should, in the spirit of the EO, try to encourage distancing from that person IMO.

Re: Face masks and Science [Re: Allison1] #13636240 07/19/20 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
I would call my doctor to see if I had a reason to not wear a mask and then try to get them to send me a note showing their opinion. There is no blanket ADA exemption for people with disabilities to not wear masks, only certain people.

Here is a notice from the DOJ talking about fake notices and recommending anyone with concerns to call the ADA for questions regarding the law.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...nd-postings-regarding-use-face-masks-and


I would think that most people with reasons to not wear a mask would also be the most at risk. If I was in that group, I would try to get the store to help me shop from my car or get a friend to do my shopping.




how is this for a "note"?

pretty sure everyone on here knows this is my truck, not some stolen picture.

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maybe I should go back and question my drs. both civilian and at the va? maybe, just maybe they were wrong and the tff mask gestapo is right?


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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: crankn101] #13636246 07/19/20 08:06 PM
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Yeah but hop, your plate means diddly about you needing a mask or not, plus you refused to show proof to the store that you had a medical reason to not use a face mask.

As in my last two posts, from the DOJ, "The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations."

Re: Face masks and Science [Re: Allison1] #13636263 07/19/20 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
Yeah but hop, your plate means diddly about you needing a mask or not, plus you refused to show proof to the store that you had a medical reason to not use a face mask.

As in my last two posts, from the DOJ, "The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations."


The store cant ask for proof. It is a violation of ada. Just like we cant ask for proof that a dog is a service animal. The dems crammed all the ada stuff down business throat. Now you dont want to follow it.

Re: Face masks and Science [Re: crankn101] #13636277 07/19/20 08:32 PM
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Re: Face masks and Science [Re: crankn101] #13636279 07/19/20 08:34 PM
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Maybe we need to have some kind of glass bubble to put over disabled people's head if they can't wear a surgery mask. I'm envisioning something like diving helmet or a space helmet, but with top vents instead of an oxygen tube.

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Originally Posted by Gusick
Maybe we need to have some kind of glass bubble to put over disabled people's head if they can't wear a surgery mask. I'm envisioning something like diving helmet or a space helmet, but with top vents instead of an oxygen tube.


Float that around at the next democrat gathering you attend lol.

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