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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Dave-0]
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01/29/20 07:52 PM
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. Agree Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. Completely agree. Although the Hot Wheels track was never a favorite of mine, a clothes off belt beating is a whole 'nother problem. Heaven forbid my Mom get ahold of one of my Hot Wheels track sections. Those were worse than the belt. Granny would make me pick my own switch. The mental part of that was worse than her chasing me with the switch.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Kattelyn]
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01/29/20 08:03 PM
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My Dad used to be like that, belts and stuff. It was usually accompanied by some sort of craziness like throwing a couch across the room. I remember when I was about 13, I snuck out and went over to some girl's house that I liked. That little adventure got me hit upside the head so hard I flew entirely over the hood of an old Lincoln.
Ultimately all that came out of that was me planting a right hand square in his teeth at about 17, which forever stopped all his nonsense.
I don't have kids, but just from my personal experience, beating on them doesn't do any good.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: H2O Seeker]
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01/29/20 08:10 PM
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. Agree Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. Completely agree. Although the Hot Wheels track was never a favorite of mine, a clothes off belt beating is a whole 'nother problem. Heaven forbid my Mom get ahold of one of my Hot Wheels track sections. Those were worse than the belt. Granny would make me pick my own switch. The mental part of that was worse than her chasing me with the switch. I'd always pick the biggest damn branch I could find. One time a storm knocked down this huge pecan branch so I dragged that sumbitch in the house and looked at my grandma like, good luck swinging this. You name it, I was beat with it. Don't remember being beat naked but I'm sure I was bare butt a few times. My black friends were beat on another level by their parents, this doesn't seem too extreme.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Kattelyn]
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01/29/20 08:13 PM
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Back in my day, that was a going thing and no one would say anything about. My ole' man, a WW2 Marine, used belts, an ext.cord, fists, and even a 2x4. He tore our [censored] up to where we bled...that went for my two sisters as well. There was no such thing as child cruelty that I knew of in those days. I can't remember my age then but one day he was coming after me and grabbed his old .22 cal. rifle and stopped him in the hallway. He said, what are doing with that? Not another word was said as he went down the hall and locked his self in his bedroom. It was a bit later I moved out and lived with another family bc of his child abuse, finished HS and later went in the Marine Corps.Rants over..
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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01/29/20 08:28 PM
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: HasBen]
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01/29/20 09:04 PM
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. yep. That man crossed the line
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: kennerdude]
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01/29/20 09:05 PM
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. Absolutely ^^^^ Mama Mag Dont Play! That Rod of correction shall drive it far from him or her... Knock that foolishness rite off EM! Very Rare we gotta give them a good ol fashioned $$$ Whippin!
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: tricky]
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01/29/20 09:25 PM
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I got whipped with a belt as a child also. I did not have to take all my clothes off and really take a beatin all over my body. I concur, he crossed the line whipping him naked.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Kattelyn]
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01/29/20 09:56 PM
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Pretty simple. Discipline is used for training, not punishment. When you follow that it’s pretty effective.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Kattelyn]
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01/29/20 09:59 PM
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Would that be considered positive punishment or negative reinforcement?
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: BCBassCat]
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01/29/20 10:16 PM
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Would that be considered positive punishment or negative reinforcement?
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: BrandoA]
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01/29/20 10:53 PM
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating. yep. That man crossed the line Yeah. I'm all for a spanking or whupping if warranted. But a beating like that, no.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Kattelyn]
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01/29/20 11:02 PM
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There is a fairly narrow age where spankings are effective. Old enough to understand they are doing wrong and young enough to not have the full mental capacity to be reasoned with. That age range varies kid to kid. Beating a stripped down kid with a belt is never okay.
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Coach Hark]
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01/29/20 11:32 PM
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I got whipped with a belt as a child also. I did not have to take all my clothes off and really take a beatin all over my body. I concur, he crossed the line whipping him naked. That was not a whipping. It was a totally unwarranted beating. Naked or clothed, it was absolutely wrong!
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Re: The world has changed.
[Re: Jpurdue]
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01/29/20 11:58 PM
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Being a parent is not always easy. Usually, if I have to resort to spanking, I feel like I have failed to effectively communicate to them what is expected and accepted behavior. For me personally, I try NOT to spank when I am angry. Calm down a bit, then proceed as necessary.
While I don't like spanking my kids, I also understand that fear of consequences/punishment is a good thing for a child to have. One place I draw a definitive line is physical danger to my kids. They may play and dance around on a sidewalk, but take that one step into the parking lot and I unleash hell on their little butts.
All that said, the all over the body and lasting welts stuff is definitely over the line.
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