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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Dave-0] #13420409 01/29/20 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HasBen
Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.

Agree

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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.



Completely agree. Although the Hot Wheels track was never a favorite of mine, a clothes off belt beating is a whole 'nother problem.

Heaven forbid my Mom get ahold of one of my Hot Wheels track sections. Those were worse than the belt. Granny would make me pick my own switch. The mental part of that was worse than her chasing me with the switch.


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Kattelyn] #13420426 01/29/20 08:03 PM
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My Dad used to be like that, belts and stuff. It was usually accompanied by some sort of craziness like throwing a couch across the room. I remember when I was about 13, I snuck out and went over to some girl's house that I liked. That little adventure got me hit upside the head so hard I flew entirely over the hood of an old Lincoln.

Ultimately all that came out of that was me planting a right hand square in his teeth at about 17, which forever stopped all his nonsense.

I don't have kids, but just from my personal experience, beating on them doesn't do any good.

Re: The world has changed. [Re: H2O Seeker] #13420435 01/29/20 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Originally Posted by HasBen
Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.

Agree

Originally Posted by Dave-0
Originally Posted by HasBen
Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.



Completely agree. Although the Hot Wheels track was never a favorite of mine, a clothes off belt beating is a whole 'nother problem.

Heaven forbid my Mom get ahold of one of my Hot Wheels track sections. Those were worse than the belt. Granny would make me pick my own switch. The mental part of that was worse than her chasing me with the switch.

I'd always pick the biggest damn branch I could find. One time a storm knocked down this huge pecan branch so I dragged that sumbitch in the house and looked at my grandma like, good luck swinging this. You name it, I was beat with it. Don't remember being beat naked but I'm sure I was bare butt a few times. My black friends were beat on another level by their parents, this doesn't seem too extreme.

Re: The world has changed. [Re: Kattelyn] #13420442 01/29/20 08:13 PM
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Back in my day, that was a going thing and no one would say anything about. My ole' man, a WW2 Marine, used belts, an ext.cord, fists, and even a 2x4. He tore our [censored] up to where we bled...that went for my two sisters as well. There was no such thing as child cruelty that I knew of in those days. I can't remember my age then but one day he was coming after me and grabbed his old .22 cal. rifle and stopped him in the hallway. He said, what are doing with that? Not another word was said as he went down the hall and locked his self in his bedroom. It was a bit later I moved out and lived with another family bc of his child abuse, finished HS and later went in the Marine Corps.Rants over..


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Dan90210 ☮] #13420453 01/29/20 08:28 PM
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Re: The world has changed. [Re: HasBen] #13420477 01/29/20 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HasBen
Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.


yep. That man crossed the line

Re: The world has changed. [Re: kennerdude] #13420478 01/29/20 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kennerdude®
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.


Absolutely

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Re: The world has changed. [Re: tricky] #13420513 01/29/20 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tricky
I got whipped with a belt as a child also. I did not have to take all my clothes off and really take a beatin all over my body.


I concur, he crossed the line whipping him naked.


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Kattelyn] #13420535 01/29/20 09:56 PM
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Pretty simple. Discipline is used for training, not punishment.
When you follow that it’s pretty effective.


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Kattelyn] #13420538 01/29/20 09:59 PM
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Would that be considered positive punishment or negative reinforcement?

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Originally Posted by BCBassCat
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Re: The world has changed. [Re: BrandoA] #13420585 01/29/20 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandoA
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Huge difference in a disciplinary spanking and a clothes off belt beating.


yep. That man crossed the line


Yeah. I'm all for a spanking or whupping if warranted. But a beating like that, no.


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Kattelyn] #13420599 01/29/20 11:02 PM
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There is a fairly narrow age where spankings are effective. Old enough to understand they are doing wrong and young enough to not have the full mental capacity to be reasoned with. That age range varies kid to kid. Beating a stripped down kid with a belt is never okay.


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Coach Hark] #13420629 01/29/20 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Hark
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I got whipped with a belt as a child also. I did not have to take all my clothes off and really take a beatin all over my body.


I concur, he crossed the line whipping him naked.

That was not a whipping. It was a totally unwarranted beating. Naked or clothed, it was absolutely wrong!


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Re: The world has changed. [Re: Jpurdue] #13420658 01/29/20 11:58 PM
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Being a parent is not always easy. Usually, if I have to resort to spanking, I feel like I have failed to effectively communicate to them what is expected and accepted behavior. For me personally, I try NOT to spank when I am angry. Calm down a bit, then proceed as necessary.

While I don't like spanking my kids, I also understand that fear of consequences/punishment is a good thing for a child to have. One place I draw a definitive line is physical danger to my kids. They may play and dance around on a sidewalk, but take that one step into the parking lot and I unleash hell on their little butts.

All that said, the all over the body and lasting welts stuff is definitely over the line.


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