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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Barn]
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08/27/19 02:40 PM
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... but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now. Those guys would be lucky crack the top 50 in BPT if you compare their past and current success. They are in the top of BASS now. However, if you want to compare talent there is no way BASS is even close to BPT top to bottom. As for comparing formats that's apples and oranges. But, the BPT guys are the ones that dominate BASS and FLW for years. Again, the top 5-10 in BASS or FLW could compete with the best of BPT anglers on any given day. It's similar to trying convince someone that Conference USA or Mountain West has better talent than the SEC in football. You might like the style of play but the doesn't make the talent better.
Good analogy, that spread offense might be fun to watch but when they play Alabama they get murdered
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/27/19 03:51 PM
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boyd1002
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My 'hypothetical' analogy would be a little different... we all like to relate fishing to golf (even though the money is vastly different).. over the years you would hear rumblings and there would be a few tournaments that would use the Stableford scoring for golf (ex. 1pt for a bogie, 2 pts for a par, 3 points for a birdie, etc..) basically you are not overly penalized for a blowing up on a hole and the highest score would win. I could easily see the argument some people could make that it would make the game more exciting.. it would make players be much more aggressive with their shots (thus more entertaining) and it would be in a scoring format that is easier for the 'non-golfer' to follow....
Now if 90% of best golfers decide to join a new tour that focused on this new scoring... how bitter would the golf purest be? would they still watch their favorite players or would they watch their favorite format? or would they buy in and start using Stableford scoring when they are playing with their friends... i honestly dont know.
Many of us are purest, and we prefer the format over the anglers.. at least i do. but i will watch all three.. it just really hit home last weekend when i had the option to watch MLF's "superbowl" vs a BASS regular season event and i primarily watched BASS..
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
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08/27/19 05:07 PM
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rj74955
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[/quote] Absolutely laughable. My original quote said that anyone that thinks BPT is the best of the best fishermen from top to bottom is confused. I don't agree with your numbers, but even you said some of them in BASS and FLW are better than guys in BPT. I don't know what the past and football has to do with it, but thank you for agreeing with me. You are right. BPT only got 78 of the top 90 professional fishermen from FLW and BASS. [/quote]  Another Kool-Aid drinker. I guess you're right if you count the half of those 78 that haven't performed in 10 years, were about to have to re-qualify and were in a bind over the actual enforcement of the no information rules.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
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08/27/19 06:32 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Absolutely laughable. My original quote said that anyone that thinks BPT is the best of the best fishermen from top to bottom is confused. I don't agree with your numbers, but even you said some of them in BASS and FLW are better than guys in BPT. I don't know what the past and football has to do with it, but thank you for agreeing with me. You are right. BPT only got 78 of the top 90 professional fishermen from FLW and BASS. [/quote]  Another Kool-Aid drinker. I guess you're right if you count the half of those 78 that haven't performed in 10 years, were about to have to re-qualify and were in a bind over the actual enforcement of the no information rules. [/quote] ......wait for it.....wait for it......wait....for....it! (Where’s that in writing? I wanna see it!) ^^^^^^you know its coming^^^^^^
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/27/19 06:47 PM
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Ricktofish
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The correct answer to the original OG questions is, all of them. Enjoy watching them all. You guys sound like a bunch of 7th grade girls.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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08/27/19 09:17 PM
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rj74955
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[/quote] ......wait for it.....wait for it......wait....for....it! (Where’s that in writing? I wanna see it!) ^^^^^^you know its coming^^^^^^[/quote]  Hey Steez, why isn't Ott Defoe's show called, "The Hunt for a whole bunch of 1+ Pound Fish" ? 
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/27/19 09:45 PM
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Used2fish
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Cayuga.
Those first 2 days they were strumming em good. An 8lber in New York is a toad
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
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08/28/19 12:59 AM
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Bruce Allen
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just watch both at the same time.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/29/19 01:31 PM
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texasbassdude
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Elite Series on Cayuga, hands down. It was awesome. The most I watched of the Redcrest was the replay of Edwin's fury.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/29/19 05:23 PM
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rangerb
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The Red Crest hands down, some excellent close up video of top water action and lots of catching. Watched a little of the BASS, but boring watching cast and retrieve, so switched back to Red Crest. Worth it to see how quick Daniels jerk the hook out of his officials finger. Just mute when Ike’s on. Actually any of the three is better than watching a cornhole tournament. 😋
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Mark Jones]
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11/30/19 06:52 PM
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MadFluker
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I'll bet ike is the 1st to jump ship. Ok, I'll 100% bite on this. And again, to be clear I like both formats see benefits to the anglers from both. But here goes... Let's say there are 10 "unhappy" MLF/BPT anglers. Please pitch me why they should capitulate one year into the new deal and more importantly HOW they would actually execute a re-entry into BASS that wouldn't be an absolute nightmare to attempt to pull off. Please explain to me how any BPT angler (who is a small business owner/sole proprietor) would knee jerk at this point and bail out this early and what his economic reasons for do so would be? Even if at this point he absolutely hates the format. Sell it to me. I can't wait for a reply. And your Swindle comment is hilarious. I think he's made it in fishing. He's not limping in. Told Ya!! Ike will jumps soon. TOO FUNNY
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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12/01/19 02:39 AM
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Mark Jones
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You are one awesome fluker... congrats on your prognostication. 
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
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12/02/19 03:49 PM
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Amac88
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I'll watch both because I love bass fishing but BASS is what I follow closely. As a kid and still to this day I watch BASS to learn. The format they present is informative on how the anglers search for their fish, how they are set-up, bait presentation, etc. With MLF I don't feel their television format is very informative when it comes to the details on how the anglers are catching their fish.
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