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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: rj74955]
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08/26/19 06:07 PM
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grout-scout
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... Anyone saying the BPT guys are the very best fishermen in the world, top to bottom, right this minute, have fishing ability confused with marketability. Please provide a list of 80 fishermen from either FLW or BASS or combined that is better? I'll wait... Yes there are maybe 5 guys from each that could/should be on the BPT. Otherwise the Top 50 from either are not even close. There are studs and duds on all 3 tours. You can look up the last 5-6 years final results of the BPT members if you want to and should be able to figure it out. Some of them are a perfect fit for that format, they made a career of catching little fish and selling a ton of rods and baits. Good for them, but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now. Also add: Dudley, Thrift, John Cox & Scott Martin.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/26/19 06:09 PM
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LakeForkGroupie
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For me when I watch MLF, I think that would be fun to fish there as a recreational trip. When I watch BASS/FLW, I think oh that's how I can catch that big fish on Fork and if they catch a lot or big fish then I may want to visit the lake they are fishing.
But when a tour is on a lake catching just spots or small mouth, then I don't really care to watch as I am not too interested, since I don't fish for those two here in Texas.
Redcrest had a bunch of back water frogging, loved watching that, plus it was a championship and they have some good entertainment with their format. I also kept tabs on the FLW Cup on Hamilton even though it was a dink fest grind, because it's the championship.
But typically when the tours swing north, I don't care too much.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: MagFluker]
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08/26/19 06:13 PM
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Mark Jones
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Wow, I did not say Swindle has not made it in fishing, he's had 2 AOY's with BASS...I just said he had multiple meltdowns on camera in regards to the format and the cutline which made him seem very unhappy. Swindle is one of my favorites, I miss watching him fish for 5 You literally just posted above that he might need money... that's what I was answering. I'm super familiar with his resume. Care to answer my other question that you skipped over?
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/26/19 06:15 PM
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Michael Curbow
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Is Redcrest Championship supposed to be comparable to the Classic?
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/26/19 06:30 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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This forum is great.
Voice an OPINION, and the little guys want you to write an essay proving it. Lol.
Nobody, I’m sure, misses an ounce of sleep over who’s fishing where.
......and no, I’m not gonna have a sleep study done to prove it.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/26/19 06:33 PM
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Champion1
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I don't like Evers at all so I lost interest in MLF pretty quick. Cayuga was pretty fun to watch!
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Mark Jones]
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08/26/19 06:37 PM
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MagFluker
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Wow, I did not say Swindle has not made it in fishing, he's had 2 AOY's with BASS...I just said he had multiple meltdowns on camera in regards to the format and the cutline which made him seem very unhappy. Swindle is one of my favorites, I miss watching him fish for 5 You literally just posted above that he might need money... that's what I was answering. I'm super familiar with his resume. Care to answer my other question that you skipped over? I said that that he needed money half kidding hence the "probably not" I didn't say Ike was jumping ship, that was MaDfluker, I am MaGfluker lol....I didn't realize that question was directed at me. Sometimes in business you have to cut losses/expenses, there is no way I can answer your question because I don't know what costs each business has invested in the BPT contract. Or what it would cost them to leave. If you make $0 money in tournament fishing winnings, how are you helping your business? If these guys are the best of the best, surely they think they can win more money on another tour, a tour that they have had success in before this current venture. If you decide to invest in the stock market to add to your income and/or retirement and you make $0 money in the stock market after a whole year would you keep investing? Where do you cut your losses and try to make money doing something else, when do you move to mutual funds versus day trading? That is entirely up to the individual and business.
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Kyle in NC
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: MagFluker]
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08/26/19 06:44 PM
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Mark Jones
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Wow, I did not say Swindle has not made it in fishing, he's had 2 AOY's with BASS...I just said he had multiple meltdowns on camera in regards to the format and the cutline which made him seem very unhappy. Swindle is one of my favorites, I miss watching him fish for 5 You literally just posted above that he might need money... that's what I was answering. I'm super familiar with his resume. Care to answer my other question that you skipped over? I didn't say Ike was jumping ship, that was MaDfluker, I am MaGfluker lol....I didn't realize that question was directed at me. My bad.. that's the primary problem with this board, too many flukers... 
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Mark Jones]
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08/26/19 07:19 PM
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MagFluker
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Kyle in NC
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Fishspanker]
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08/26/19 07:22 PM
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Bruce's
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Watched both . Enjoyed watching from my arm chair. With ice packed knees
Fishing Texas lakes one at a time
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: Dubee]
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08/26/19 07:23 PM
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McLovin’
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I said "some" baits Dubee...GD, why do you and a couple others on here get so butt hurt every time someone say the prefer watching one over the other...it's all just a damn fishing show? If you cant admit these guys would fish some different patterns if it were a best 5 weigh in, then you're kidding yourself It doesn't bother one bit if someone likes BPT or not. Never been butthurt over someone saying they don't like it. Or they like Bass better. It just gets old hearing the same false claims about how they throw different baits and fish so much different. You can say you aren't a fan without the bs comments LOL, I swear you and Dubee get so defensive on this deal it's funny as hell... 
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: MagFluker]
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08/26/19 07:28 PM
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Mark Jones
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: McLovin’]
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08/26/19 09:04 PM
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grout-scout
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I said "some" baits Dubee...GD, why do you and a couple others on here get so butt hurt every time someone say the prefer watching one over the other...it's all just a damn fishing show? If you cant admit these guys would fish some different patterns if it were a best 5 weigh in, then you're kidding yourself It doesn't bother one bit if someone likes BPT or not. Never been butthurt over someone saying they don't like it. Or they like Bass better. It just gets old hearing the same false claims about how they throw different baits and fish so much different. You can say you aren't a fan without the bs comments LOL, I swear you and Dubee get so defensive on this deal it's funny as hell...  It’s understandable with the one that’s getting paid from them, but the other one isn’t.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: grout-scout]
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08/26/19 10:01 PM
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rj74955
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... Anyone saying the BPT guys are the very best fishermen in the world, top to bottom, right this minute, have fishing ability confused with marketability. Please provide a list of 80 fishermen from either FLW or BASS or combined that is better? I'll wait... Yes there are maybe 5 guys from each that could/should be on the BPT. Otherwise the Top 50 from either are not even close. There are studs and duds on all 3 tours. You can look up the last 5-6 years final results of the BPT members if you want to and should be able to figure it out. Some of them are a perfect fit for that format, they made a career of catching little fish and selling a ton of rods and baits. Good for them, but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now. Also add: Dudley, Thrift, John Cox & Scott Martin. Absolutely, and that's just scratching the surface.
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Re: MLF Redcrest or BASS Cayuga
[Re: rj74955]
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08/26/19 11:26 PM
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Barn
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... but Canterbury, Zaldain, the Johnstons, Gustafson, Fieder, and a bunch more are head and shoulders better fisherman than a whole slew of those guys now. Those guys would be lucky crack the top 50 in BPT if you compare their past and current success. They are in the top of BASS now. However, if you want to compare talent there is no way BASS is even close to BPT top to bottom. As for comparing formats that's apples and oranges. But, the BPT guys are the ones that dominate BASS and FLW for years. Again, the top 5-10 in BASS or FLW could compete with the best of BPT anglers on any given day. It's similar to trying convince someone that Conference USA or Mountain West has better talent than the SEC in football. You might like the style of play but the doesn't make the talent better. If there fishing or college football on TV, I am going to watch it. As long as I find it entertaining / competitive regardless of the talent or style of play, I'm all in. 
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