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sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? #12699099 04/02/18 12:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,137 Austin fivebites OP TFF Team Angler
OP fivebites TFF Team Angler Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,137 Austin	Just purchased new to me boat and upgrading electronics. Going to either a Helix 10 or 12 at the console with side and downscan, but curious as to how many of you actually use sidescan up front at the bow? Downscan is a must there...what say ye? 2019 Chevy Tahoe 2018 Basscat Eyra 250 Proxs PB Wife of 32 years! PB Largemouth 9.56 Ray Roberts

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Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699102 04/02/18 12:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 457 dandeeks Angler
dandeeks Angler Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 457	I don't have it up there, but often wish I did. When fishing new ares, how could you not want to know that there's some structure to the left of you? my vote, get it!

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699107 04/02/18 12:31 PM
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 8,952 NW Houston J Jpurdue TFF Celebrity
Jpurdue TFF Celebrity J Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 8,952 NW Houston	Side scan doesn't work well when you are not moving at least a couple mph. You are typically doing that when you have the big motor running. Hence the importance of side scan at the console. Personally I think it's completely unnecessary up front, but far be it from me to tell another man how to waste his money. "Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: Jpurdue] #12699179 04/02/18 01:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 17,869 Boerne G grout-scout TFF Guru
grout-scout TFF Guru G Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 17,869 Boerne	Originally Posted By: Jpurdue Side scan doesn't work well when you are not moving at least a couple mph. You are typically doing that when you have the big motor running. Hence the importance of side scan at the console. Personally I think it's completely unnecessary up front, but far be it from me to tell another man how to waste his money. It works fine at slow speeds, but I wouldn�t call it necessary. I will always have it though, just because I like it. All graphs are pre-programmed for it now, so it�s not like you�d be spending anymore than normal. Moving at 0.2mph because of a slight breeze.

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699199 04/02/18 01:25 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 909 Springtown F fwbassman Pro Angler
fwbassman Pro Angler F Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 909 Springtown	I like seeing the side scan at the bow, but with that being said I didn't want one installed at the bow. I can get a little crazy on the TM. Figured I'd get some really goofy results. So I leave the console running side scan and wireless connect to a tablet up front. Then just run map or 2d on the bow.

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: Jpurdue] #12699224 04/02/18 01:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,269 Rowlett, TX M. Alexander Extreme Angler
M. Alexander Extreme Angler Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,269 Rowlett, TX	Originally Posted By: Jpurdue Side scan doesn't work well when you are not moving at least a couple mph. You are typically doing that when you have the big motor running. Hence the importance of side scan at the console. Personally I think it's completely unnecessary up front, but far be it from me to tell another man how to waste his money. Mark

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699250 04/02/18 01:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,066 southwest georgia USA B beartrap TFF Celebrity
beartrap TFF Celebrity B Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,066 southwest georgia USA	several years ago was flipping/pitching a row of boat docks....got couple loops in my line so I pitched the jig out other side of boat away from the docks while I pulled line off my reel to get loops/tangles out....when I picked up on my jig,I realized it was in a brushpile so I jigged it up and down a couple times and caught a 6lb fish... I'm sure there were many more brushpiles out in front of docks that I never knew was there.....what would be best thing to get so you could spot brushpiles,stumps etc while you were fishing down a bank? would it be a 360 scan unit?....panoptic?...or just side scan?

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699377 04/02/18 02:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 6,232 crowley C coachallentca TFF Celebrity
coachallentca TFF Celebrity C Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 6,232 crowley	I have panoptix but I don't see many brush piles. I do use it because I can see fish in front of me instaed of under me.

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: beartrap] #12699410 04/02/18 02:58 PM
Joined: May 2015 Posts: 154 Central La B Bass_Fanatic Outdoorsman
Bass_Fanatic Outdoorsman B Joined: May 2015 Posts: 154 Central La	Originally Posted By: beartrap several years ago was flipping/pitching a row of boat docks....got couple loops in my line so I pitched the jig out other side of boat away from the docks while I pulled line off my reel to get loops/tangles out....when I picked up on my jig,I realized it was in a brushpile so I jigged it up and down a couple times and caught a 6lb fish... I'm sure there were many more brushpiles out in front of docks that I never knew was there.....what would be best thing to get so you could spot brushpiles,stumps etc while you were fishing down a bank? would it be a 360 scan unit?....panoptic?...or just side scan? No doubt 360. That is exactly what 360 was made for Josh Sikes Bent Rods Guide Service

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699434 04/02/18 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,271 Weatherford Fishinfellow TFF Celebrity
Fishinfellow TFF Celebrity Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,271 Weatherford	In my opinion, Lowrance SideScan at the bow isn't great but it is nice to have if you're fishing deep structure. I had hummbinbird SideScan on the bow of my old boat and it was awesome for fishing deep structure. Basically eliminated the need for tossing buoys out. Neither will show a real crisp sharp image while sitting still but it will show you where stuff structure/cover is. Thats my money fish Kris Winhold

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699464 04/02/18 03:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 4,363 Arlington B Bobby Milam TFF Team Angler
Bobby Milam TFF Team Angler B Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 4,363 Arlington	For me, SI isn�t as important to have at the transducer at the bow. I don�t mind sharing the back transducer with the bow unit for the SI image. Now I also have a 360. That�s the nice thing about the helixes now. You only need to buy one SI unit and they will display all the other stuff as long as you have one unit capable of SI somewhere.

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: beartrap] #12699744 04/02/18 06:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 17,869 Boerne G grout-scout TFF Guru
grout-scout TFF Guru G Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 17,869 Boerne	Originally Posted By: beartrap several years ago was flipping/pitching a row of boat docks....got couple loops in my line so I pitched the jig out other side of boat away from the docks while I pulled line off my reel to get loops/tangles out....when I picked up on my jig,I realized it was in a brushpile so I jigged it up and down a couple times and caught a 6lb fish... I'm sure there were many more brushpiles out in front of docks that I never knew was there.....what would be best thing to get so you could spot brushpiles,stumps etc while you were fishing down a bank? would it be a 360 scan unit?....panoptic?...or just side scan? I have not used the 360, but I�d have to guess that it would be the best for that.

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: fivebites] #12699774 04/02/18 06:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 297 Moody, TEXAS lucky55 Angler
lucky55 Angler Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 297 Moody, TEXAS	I have SI on the bow. I cant seem to get it set right to see anything with TM going, soon as i let off it clears up. I think it would be more useful if I could get it clearer. 2021 SKEETER ZXR-21

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: lucky55] #12699794 04/02/18 06:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,160 Charlottesville, Va W Wayne P. TFF Celebrity
Wayne P. TFF Celebrity W Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,160 Charlottesville, Va	Originally Posted By: lucky55 I have SI on the bow. I cant seem to get it set right to see anything with TM going, soon as i let off it clears up. I think it would be more useful if I could get it clearer. Fix your RFI issue. Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N, SOLIX 10 G3, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N, SOLIX 12 G3, MEGA 360, MEGA LIVE TL , MEGA LIVE 2, Xplore 10

Re: sidescan necessary/useful at the bow? [Re: Wayne P.] #12699855 04/02/18 07:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 2,561 J Jeff From Iowa Extreme Angler
Jeff From Iowa Extreme Angler J Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 2,561	Originally Posted By: Wayne P. Originally Posted By: lucky55 I have SI on the bow. I cant seem to get it set right to see anything with TM going, soon as i let off it clears up. I think it would be more useful if I could get it clearer. Fix your RFI issue. Easier said than done, there are tons of people with rf interference, most of them with ultrex and helix... mines only on side scan now, Ive spent tons of time trying all the fixes to no avail. it will be clear on 10 power for the ultrex but not 9.. it clearly has something to do with the pulsing of power the ultrex uses.

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