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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: exskeetshooter]
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07/12/12 08:24 PM
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Cass Caldwell
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Why are you yelling at us, we are all in the same room...lol. I CANT HARDLY GET MY FISH OUT OF THE LIVEWELL. ADD WATER AS SOON AS U GET ON THE LAKE AND IT WILL UP THE OXY LEVEL TO HIGHER THAN NORMAL.
SOME HELP IS BETTER THAN NO HELP!!!!!!!!!
I SEE THE DIFFERENCE AND WOULD NOT HAVE A BOAT WITHOUT ONE!!!!!
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/12/12 09:23 PM
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Scott Gordon
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I only use products made by "Oxygenator" and find them to be excellent products. I am not sponsored by them nor do they give me any type of discounts. However, it is important that you learn how to properly use their product to get the most benefit. The "Oxygenator" products put 100% disolved oxygen into your livewell and/or holding tank. It takes time for the O2 content to fully saturate. If you simply activated one of their units, then measured the O2 level you would likely get a low reading. However if you activate the "Oxygenator" with your livewell filled with water for 30 minutes you will see a much more accurate reading of what the product produces.
I use the "Tournamax" system for our events for our holding tanks and they have worked flawlessly. The FLW Tour also uses the "Tournamax" system. To make it most effective we use the mesh weigh-bags. Their livewell formula "U2" is also a great product.
Last edited by ScottABA; 07/12/12 09:23 PM.
Scott Gordon Tournament Director Bass Pro Shops Cabelas Big Bass Tour scott@bigbasstour.com 214-801-2611
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/12/12 10:38 PM
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HARD WORKN HAROLD
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SCOTT-  ABSOLUTELY right on. I can definetly tell the difference in the fish in the livewell w/oxygenator. Maybe it's just me.
DON'T LET THE CLOTHES FOOL YA Life is too short to fish with a dead cricket! PB: wife of 40 years
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: Lou r Pitcher]
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07/12/12 11:58 PM
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J-2
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Do your homework it works!
Last edited by J-2; 07/13/12 12:32 AM.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: J-2]
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07/14/12 02:27 AM
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Lou r Pitcher
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Do your homework it works! Would like to find out more measurements. Just don't have the lab equipment and setup myself to measure actual dissolved O2 levels in a working livewell. So have to trust the biologist at Texas Park and Wildlife Fisheries know what they're doing until someone proves them wrong. If folks already spent the bucks and have one and they feel better with the bubbles it makes, it is working for them.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/14/12 03:41 AM
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a-mac
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While working with Indiana DNR, I tested my buds oxygenator out in a closed system. I took dissolved oxygen readings before and after use. As a result, I measured 1mg/L less oxygen after running the oxygenator for 1hr than before treatment. 1mg/L can sometimes be the difference between a happy fish and a dead fish. Fresh water is by far the best thing for a livewell full. Keep in mind, fish constantly release waste via gills and through urea. A fish will poison itself in a livewell just as fast as it will deplete the oxygen in the system.
  Live2Fish~Fish2Live
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/18/12 03:23 AM
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Tony Gergely
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Last week, I was in Orlando at the ICAST Show, so I missed out on this thread. There are some points I would like to share with you concerning this product in question. Please bear in mind, that this last May was my 30th anniversary doing fish care research and developing products for the fishing industry. I also spent 8 years of my adult life creating products for delicate tropical fish (both freshwater and saltwater) for Jungle Laboratories. I have my Bachelor's of Science Degree in Microbiogy through the College of Agriculture from the University of Florida (hence the orange and blue labeling on all SURE-LIFE Fish Care Products). But I really loved chemistry. My favorite subject was inorganic chemistry. For some reason, it came naturally to me. I have been a fisherman and aquarist since I can remember and began to hunt when I moved to Texas in my 20's.I was also on the founding board of the Texas Lone Star Share a Lunker Foundation, something I am quite proud of. Furthermore, Doug Hannon and I have been best of friends for the last 30 years. I have had some amazing experiences with Doug as both he and I worked with largemouth and smallmouth bass. There are scientific articles written by professors about our pioneering work in the 80's. What amazes me, is how often this subject comes up. We all are invovled in a sport we dearly love. We all have our favorite boats, motors, rods, reels, tackle, gas station to fill up both our tow vehicles and boats at, snacks for the boat and drinks for the boat. There is a lot of money tied up there to compete to win a bass tournament at your favorite tournament. Oh, and don't forget the entry fees. See what I am saying? We ALL spend a lot of money to compete and have fun. Now, here are some facts that are backed up with scientific and some common sense thinking and research. 1. The Oxygenator works by electrolysis to produce O3 (Ozone). This is an unstable molecule and theoretically breaks down into O2 (oxygen). The idea for the device comes from the sewage treatment plants we have deveopled. Unfortunately, since Ozone is such an unstable molecule, it can also react with organic molecules in the water to create GOD knows what, especially if there are pesticdes or other contaminants in the water. Does not sound like a good enviroment to the fish to me. 2. The Oygenator reacts with salt to produce deadly chlorine. The folks at the Oygenator met me back about 6-8 years ago at the ICAST Show in Las Vegas. At their request, I sent them samples of every product I have developed and market nation wide. Their results? ALL OF SURE-LIFE PRODUCTS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE OXGENATOR. Their product creates chlorine in the presense of salt and guess what? EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT I MANUFACTURE REMOVES CHLORINE INSTANTLY. How else could my products work in municple water supplies to keep bait and sport fish alive? It's sad when a company cannot be honest what their product does and cannot do just so they can get that extra penny out of you. Instead of being honest, they have their own water conditioner (U2) another company makes for them to compete against me with claims in their advertising which I find very interesting. They claim that their product does not clump up in the bottle. Has it ever accurred to you, that SURE-LIFE PRODUCTS are 100% active, as they are in a powder state instead of liquid. We make the best Fish Care Water Conditioners in the world and deliver quality products at at an affordable price. We do not dilute our products with water and sell you a diluted bottle of some formula some other company makes for them. There is already enough water in your livewell, that you should not have to pay extra money for more water.They also claim to calm the fish as SURE-LIFE does with both PLEASE RELEASE ME and CATCH & RELEASE. I can tell you that claim is totally false. There is no tranquilizer in U2. Furthermore, if you choose to use the Oxygenator in brackish water or on a river that has a higher concentration of salt than normal freshwater, I highly recommend that you have SURE-LIFE products in the water, or else you are going to have fish dead from chlorine poison. 3. Do yourself a favor and insert an oxygen meter in the water with the Oxygenator and see for yourself the results. If you know anything about how many ppm of oxygen fish require to survive, you will shake your head in dismay at the results you see.The levels do not add up, especailly when trying to keep a hefty limit of bass alive. We are not deceiving you. Add ice to the water as I demostrate in our videos at www.sure-life.com. Cooler water holds more oxygen. Run your recirculationg system continously. The reason for this, is that 90% of the oxygen transfer into water occurs at the surface of the water. That is why it is so critical that you remove surface foam with products such as FOAM-OFF. And so we do not forget, use 3% Hydrogen Peroxide in the water at a rate of 4 fluid ounces (1/2 cupful) per 15 gallons of water. This chemical is CHEAP! When you add the amount above suggested, you are totally SATURATING the water with oyxgen. But the cool thing is, you are adding over 700 ppm of EXTRA avaiable oxygen to the livewell, that fish can use as the equilibrium equation begins to react in your livewell. If you lose electricity to your livewells, this will save your fish. I have shared this knowledge with 100's and 100's of bait stores and quess what? When they lose electricity from a power outage and they have hundreds of dollars of baitfish in their tanks, they remembered what I told them about Hydrogen Peroxide. I don't make a penny from selling Hydrogen Peroxide, but it always puts a smile on my face that I was able to give a fellow human being TRUE ADVICE and they thanked me. When you market something, I believe in honesty and accurate advertising. Otherwise, you jeopardize your integrity. In summation, if you want to put the Oxgenator in your boat, go for it, but please remember that ALL SURE-LIFE PRODUCTS are compatible with that device and when we make claims on our packaging concerning OUR FORMULAS, we can back them up. The decision is yours. For me, I just get gratitude that I have been making livewell additives now for over 30 years and know that the work I love and the passion I have has had a great impact on keeping millions and millions of gamefish alive. I also see a different picture then some do. SURE-LIFE's efforts at conservation has assisted this entire nation in helping keep our bass populations healthy after tournaments, so that we do not have to depend or spend as much money with Parks & Wildlife to restock our lakes. All I am asking, is that you think about my meassage. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to research my company and use my products. Tony Gergely, President, SURE-LIFE LABS. See ya' on the water or maybe on a deer lease!
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/18/12 03:30 AM
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Fish Killer
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Thank you Tony for chiming in in this subject. I think you clarified a lot of things
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/18/12 08:57 PM
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papamark
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Glad you came in and cleared it all up Tony, I was going to but you said it better than I would have.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: papamark]
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07/18/12 09:01 PM
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senko9S
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finally the truth is out.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/19/12 01:20 AM
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Bank beater 1
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I recently got one of tony's videos and put his methods into practice. I have a 30 gal livewell with only pump in pumps(old boat) no recirc. I fill the live well up mix in the please release and catch and release. After catch first fish i drop in about 8 to 10 oz of peroxide. I also add ice. I do use block ice as it seems to last longer after an initial cool down with reg ice. I had two heavy fives right before dark in a night tournament. One of which ripped out of my hands twice on the way to the livewell. Mid night i replaced the water and repeated the process all the process. At 3:30 in the morning at weigh in one of those five lbers as i transfered it to the weigh masters tub ripped out of my hand again. All five fish were wild as the moment i caught them, and i do not even have a recirc. I might add i did however suffer injuries to the palm of my hand from the mean fish, but i guess she owed me since i stuck a hook in her jaw.
Tony's methods work and i am extremely grateful to him for helping me educate anglers in the toledo bend area who fished a night tournament with us a while back. The dvd's and pamplets were extremely beneficial. The next tournament i would say our fish kill declined by close to 50 percent.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: olfisherman]
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07/20/12 12:07 AM
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David Rush
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I don't see that Tony's statement is all truth. Actual I've lost a little respect for a company that I thought made a great product. IMO its not real classy to come on a forum and bad mouth your competitor. Let your product speak for itself. I believe in the Oxygenator and a bunch of others with way more knowledge on the technology behind it do too. Electrolysis can produce hydrogen and O2 and possibly O3. I'm guessing their process doesn't make O3. If it were everyone that had one would have dead fish everytime they put them in the livewell.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: David Rush]
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07/20/12 06:35 AM
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Tony Gergely
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Thanks for your reply. I stand behind my research.
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Re: Oxygenator
[Re: Tony Gergely]
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07/20/12 06:46 AM
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Tony Gergely
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And by the way, my name is Tony Gergely, not Aggie93. I am not hiding my name or credentials. Let me know what you find when you personally put your oxygen meter in your livewell. I do what I do because of my passion. By the way, make sure you have fish in the livewell.
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