When it comes to safety you can't fix stupid.
The ME's office will piece you back together after the autopsy.

I agree. The sad thing is it is usually the law abiding citizens that get the zipper bag and the law breakers come away without a scratch.

i dont know about lake palestine but when i worked for tarrant county water district ( richland chambers, cedar creek, etc.) we were responsible for replacing the bouys on the lake. TPWD had nothing to do with it. may check with upper neches river authority also.

Will the neches River Authority office have a map of where the no wake zones are?
I've always ran on plane(not wide open)to the open area in front of the bridge in the back of Chimney Creek cove, but one of my friends said they have put a little small buoy at the mouth that says no wake? He said it looks like a home made buoy, real small, not the big ones that we normally see on this and other lakes?

That's a good point. The bouys at County Line and Stone Chimney are smaller than a normal bouy. Plus, there is a normal no wake bouy in the bank of County Line by the boat launch. Why would you need a no wake zone inside a no wake zone?

I guess I'll have to do some research.

If the bouys are gone then no foul. Hubbard Creek in Breckenridge had the same thing happen at the pump house on the Sandy Creek side. Had a GW come check me while fishing in the "what use to be the keep out are" he said that fishing there is ok untill the bouys get replaced. She has no leg to stand on and if she calls the GW will tell her what she needs to do to get them replaced. Just wave at her as you fly by at 70!

kenny check with the neches river authority, they should have an idea of where the no wake areas are. just spoke with a game warden and they said it is up to the river authority where the no wake zone is. TPWD does the enforcement, but they do not set where they are.

I received the following email from the Neches river authority. I specifically asked about Stone Chimney and County Line. I had also commented that the bouy's seemed smaller than normal.

Mr. Stewart,

There are no specific �NO WAKE� regulations for Lake Palestine. The definition of �no wake� used on Lake Palestine conforms to that used by the state of Texas. Over the years, the Authority has developed a map or pattern of placement of buoys around the Lake. This is based on restricted areas, inlets and coves, and other specific navigational hazards. Both coves you have referenced are marked with buoys. The buoys are of a standard size used on recreational reservoirs across the State, and retailed for such purpose.

Thank you. We appreciate your concern regarding safe navigation on Lake Palestine.

Monty D. Shank
General Manager
Upper Neches River Municipal Water Authority
P.O. Box 1965
Palestine, TX 75802
Phone: 903-876-2237
Fax: 903-876-5200

To conclude. There is a map, but it is not readily accessible to the public. One JP on the post said if it wasn't marked you may be ticketed, but not convicted. So I will be running on pad on Palestine wherever I want as long as it is safe and not specifically marked "No Wake."

Was fishing near the ramp in hickory creek at lewisville and someone put the hammer down and went full bore from there out into the lake. No wake in the entire cove. Some folks just don't heed the laws

Can anyone just post a "NO WAKE ZONE"? If so that's pure BS, it seems to me there should be some type of official listing like the 30.06 number for firearms. It also seems to me that an official NO WAKE ZONE should be posted by an OFFICIAL of the STATE or COUNTY, not by some water happy jerk who is afraid of getting his bulkhead wet.

Me and a buddy were fishing some of the points at lake park in lewisville yesterday and seen a guy in a black ranger blantently making wakes within the "no wake zone". He just drove in and out of the the area like it didn't exist. On top of that, he blew by us within 30 yards of the bank and destroyed where we were fishing because of the wakes he had made. I understand its gonna happen, but he wasn't looking for a spot to fish or anything. He was just out joy riding. Have some respect for others trying to enjoy the lake, whether they be on a boat or on land. Just my 2�,

My thoughts exactly!

I would be willing to bet someone from the neighborhood put the buoys out...

Also, keep in mind that "no wake" zone basically means idle speed. That will create very little wake. It doesn't mean the speed that will barely keep you off pad.

That's like saying "the speed limit sign got knocked down last month but everybody should KNOW what it is here."

That won't fly with the judge in court.