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Re: hurricane season [Re: RayBob] #6313558 06/20/11 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: RayBob
No hurricanes please. Been thru Rita and Ike, cost me thousands in lost timber, out of power almost a combined month. Hard times for my family. I'd rather see Ivie dry up. Ike killed over a hundred folks . Let's wish for something else.



We have had 0.21 of an inch this year. Dry as a powder house fart. Fires running rampant. Property loss, livestock loss, lakes drying up, wells drying up, crops drying up, ranchers shutting down. 50+ mile per hour winds. Dirt storms like I have never seen before. With all due respect, im sorry those people died in Ike, and Katrina, and every other hurricane that has hit our coastlines. However the people that live on the coast know a hurricane is coming, and have the oppertunity to evacuate. Those 100 people chose to chance fate, and stay. Now if it takes a hurricane, or a tropical storm to give us some rain, bring it on. If we dont get some rain soon, there will be more than a 100 lives affected by this drought.


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Re: hurricane season [Re: Fisher77] #6313639 06/20/11 05:30 AM
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+1, West Texas needs more rain than anyone else. Since I've been home, so many people have complained about how they need rain in DFW because the lawns are dying, yet they don't think about the fires and lakes drying up just a little ways west. Unfortunately, the aquifer in the panhandle is also losing water at such a rapid pace that it, with substantial rain, would take multiple generations to replenish. My freshwater ecology teacher talked about it and said if it goes dry, it could take several thousand years to fill. With Meredith being closed and the pipeline to Alan Henry being put in, people are using the aquifer more than usual. I'm glad to see Midland finally forced rationing on its inhabitants. The hurrican idea is simple: Evac when the warnings come, and property damage is all you have to worry about. If Ivie dries up, Abilene, San Angelo, Midland/Odessa, Big Spring, and many other cities have to find other water sources. Ends up being over a half of a million people suffering, along with the majority of farmlands.


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Re: hurricane season [Re: RayBob] #6313765 06/20/11 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: RayBob
No hurricanes please. Been thru Rita and Ike, cost me thousands in lost timber, out of power almost a combined month. Hard times for my family. I'd rather see Ivie dry up. Ike killed over a hundred folks . Let's wish for something else.

same here no Hurricanes maybe a good tropical storm would be to bad. ) 0" of rain here this month again wow it's dry, no fireworks again this year


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Re: hurricane season [Re: TeamHillbilly] #6313834 06/20/11 12:03 PM
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soapWith all of the technology with desalinization systems these days it seems that massive pipe lines would be considered as government infrastructure to create jobs and maintain a more stabil and constant water sources in the sunbelt states taz

For flush's sake our great grand pappy's built the train system to support the growth and conditions bang

Re: hurricane season [Re: Bass&More] #6313844 06/20/11 12:12 PM
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I have been saying for years (mostly to myself since I am the only one that listens to me) that we need a pipe line system from the wetter regions to the drier ones. Probably could even use existing right-of-way owned by the oil and gas pipelines. There has been enough flood water pass down the Mississippi recently to water the drought areas in the South and West for a while. I am sure the environmentalist would find reasons not to build something like that tho.



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Re: hurricane season [Re: Troyz] #6314549 06/20/11 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Troyz
I have been saying for years (mostly to myself since I am the only one that listens to me) that we need a pipe line system from the wetter regions to the drier ones. Probably could even use existing right-of-way owned by the oil and gas pipelines. There has been enough flood water pass down the Mississippi recently to water the drought areas in the South and West for a while. I am sure the environmentalist would find reasons not to build something like that tho.



I saw a show about that exact thing. It was because Lake Mead is drying up and those that pump it for water are getting worried. There exact quote was "if we can pump oil across Alaska then theres no reason we can't pump water here. But they are going to have to emminent domain alot of property for that to happen.

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Re: hurricane season [Re: TeamHillbilly] #6314554 06/20/11 03:57 PM
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No hurricanes please. Been thru Rita and Ike, cost me thousands in lost timber, out of power almost a combined month. Hard times for my family. I'd rather see Ivie dry up. Ike killed over a hundred folks . Let's wish for something else.

same here no Hurricanes maybe a good tropical storm would be to bad. ) 0" of rain here this month again wow it's dry, no fireworks again this year



Thanks Bob!

I would wish no harm on someone else just to satisfy my needs. And to be sure we are having fires here in the Pineywoods too ... it is terribly dry here too. We normally get 50+" of rain a year and I think we've had4-5". We have a LOT more fuel to burn here than out in the grasslands/semi-arid regions.


Different regions have different concerns. I am not on the coast and am nearly 80 miles inland. Generally hurricanes wouldn't hold their strength this far inland but as of late they are. I agree SOME of the folks that lost their lives tempted fate with the hurricanes but that is not ALL of them.

Hope you West Texans get some moisture. Hang in there and we'll say prayers for y'all!

The pipeline thing has been discussed many times here locally to ship water to more arid regions. Don't you think it would encourage more development to areas that are already past their maximum capacities for water usage instead of just giving the areas a backup supply? BTW Rayburn and TBend are at historic low levels.


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Re: hurricane season [Re: grout-scout] #6315038 06/20/11 05:59 PM
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I have been saying for years (mostly to myself since I am the only one that listens to me) that we need a pipe line system from the wetter regions to the drier ones. Probably could even use existing right-of-way owned by the oil and gas pipelines. There has been enough flood water pass down the Mississippi recently to water the drought areas in the South and West for a while. I am sure the environmentalist would find reasons not to build something like that tho.



I saw a show about that exact thing. It was because Lake Mead is drying up and those that pump it for water are getting worried. There exact quote was "if we can pump oil across Alaska then theres no reason we can't pump water here. But they are going to have to emminent domain alot of property for that to happen.


Eminent domain should not be a huge problem. Oil and gas lines already have right of way all across the country. Could buy up right of way where ever needed and land owners could still use the land at least to some extent.

I think if we used the money we are wasting in the mid-east fighting other people's battles and the money that we are giving to other countries as foreign aid, we could build the pipeline and have a surplus left over to improve the ramps, docks and stock more bass in the lakes for us to catch.

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I have been saying for years (mostly to myself since I am the only one that listens to me) that we need a pipe line system from the wetter regions to the drier ones. Probably could even use existing right-of-way owned by the oil and gas pipelines. There has been enough flood water pass down the Mississippi recently to water the drought areas in the South and West for a while. I am sure the environmentalist would find reasons not to build something like that tho.



I saw a show about that exact thing. It was because Lake Mead is drying up and those that pump it for water are getting worried. There exact quote was "if we can pump oil across Alaska then theres no reason we can't pump water here. But they are going to have to emminent domain alot of property for that to happen.


Eminent domain should not be a huge problem. Oil and gas lines already have right of way all across the country. Could buy up right of way where ever needed and land owners could still use the land at least to some extent.

I think if we used the money we are wasting in the mid-east fighting other people's battles and the money that we are giving to other countries as foreign aid, we could build the pipeline and have a surplus left over to improve the ramps, docks and stock more bass in the lakes for us to catch.


You will get not arguements from me on this topic, I agree whole heartedly cheers

Re: hurricane season [Re: grout-scout] #6322035 06/22/11 12:11 PM
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Ya'll should be getting rain now. With a lot more to come now that La Nina is going neutral and we are heading to an El Nino pattern.


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/enso.shtml#current

The current SOI reading is 12.6 I'm hoping we are not heading for a double La Nina.

Latest SST shows La Nina winding down..

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2011/anomnight.6.20.2011.gif

And finally good news from NOAA that we are getting away from La NINA,or at least heading to a neutral pattern. I'd prefer to see a full blown El Nino and see the SOI turn Negative. Ya'll really need the rain.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html



Re: hurricane season [Re: Fatalwishes] #6322045 06/22/11 12:16 PM
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I did a post on your area lakes on my Climate site. You guys are in worse shape than I thought.


http://www.climatepatrol.com/forum/7/4872/pg1/index.php#pid28131

Re: hurricane season [Re: Fatalwishes] #6322336 06/22/11 01:53 PM
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Its the exact opposite here, after about 6 dry years we are now wet as hell! I am showing 3.75" of rain in the last 2 days, I wish I could send some your guys way we don't need it right now!

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I wish you could too.

Finally got some measurable rain fall last night in San Antonio. First of the year.

I woke up this morning thanking Jesus for the rain and praying for more. Hopefully the Jet Stream will sink and we can relieve some of the pressure from the mid west

We need all the rain you can send our way right now.

Keep praying for more.


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