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Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
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01/26/11 03:48 AM
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PKirby
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Alright guys, I've about got a boat bought. This time around, I'd really like to get some good electronics. I've been looking at the new graphs. While I don't understand all the lingo just yet, here's a few questions I have:
1. I want a good unit for the deck and a good unit for the console. If I like the Lowrance units, are people really spending $1500-$1900 for these two units?
2. If i decide to go with one unit, where would you put the better unit?
3. It seems like if you want the structure scan feature, it is an add-on feature. Is that correct? If so, that the same thing as down scan.
4. Does the hummingbird product come with the structure scan feature? I would consider the bird, but have heard folks having issues.
As you can see, I'm really clueless on all this. Back in the old days, a good depth finder was a flasher and a rod with a large weight and treble hook. I would appreciate all the information given.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: PKirby]
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01/26/11 04:10 AM
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adam_p
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Alright guys, I've about got a boat bought. This time around, I'd really like to get some good electronics. I've been looking at the new graphs. While I don't understand all the lingo just yet, here's a few questions I have:
1. I want a good unit for the deck and a good unit for the console. If I like the Lowrance units, are people really spending $1500-$1900 for these two units? Get with shut-up-and-fish on here for better prices
2. If i decide to go with one unit, where would you put the better unit? At the console on a ram mount. You can turn it around and still see it from the bow if you need to.
3. It seems like if you want the structure scan feature, it is an add-on feature. Is that correct? If so, that the same thing as down scan. Structure Scan is what Lowrance calls their side imaging and the down scan. Both are part of the add-on
4. Does the hummingbird product come with the structure scan feature? I would consider the bird, but have heard folks having issues. The humminbird units include the side imaging and the down scan. No need to buy an add-on like the lowrance units. I've had no problems with my bird.
As you can see, I'm really clueless on all this. Back in the old days, a good depth finder was a flasher and a rod with a large weight and treble hook. I would appreciate all the information given.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: adam_p]
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01/26/11 04:14 AM
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ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)
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Love my Bird, had the 997 and upgraded to the 1197 will never be with out one now.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)]
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01/26/11 04:19 AM
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Want 2 Fish
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I recently bought the lowrance hds 7 with the structure scan. PM me and I'll tell u what little I know
Always want to fish and always welcome the company
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)]
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01/26/11 04:21 AM
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Javelin
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I just put a HDS 8 on the console and a 5 on the bow. THe bigger screen should go on console because most side imaging is done with big motor. A HDS 5 is fine for the bow because you will primarily use downscan or the 2d sonar while fishing
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: Javelin]
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01/26/11 04:38 AM
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texasbass1
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I just got my HB side scan unit. Still learning but love it so far. I chose it over Lowrance because of better screen resoluation and an all in one unit, no need to buy add ons.
Pat Leach USAF MSgt Retired 92 Procraft 180 Pro 24 Mercury 150 Pro XS 4 Stroke Minn Kota Ulterra 80
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: texasbass1]
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01/26/11 05:51 AM
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PKirby
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thanks boys, this is a good start....
I would consider HB but I read where screens were freezing....and one side of the si would read fine, but the other side would not work? any info on these issues?
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: PKirby]
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01/26/11 10:01 AM
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Bassin Ritz
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Humminbird were the pioneers of the side-imaging technology. I have a Humminbird side-imaging unit (798) and wish I owned the 1197. The 1197 has a 10" screen and boy it makes a difference as you can see the features so clearly. However, even on my 5" I can see so many cool things. For example, the last time I was at the lake I was fishing in 5ft of water and I could see fish within 20 feet of boat following a school of shad. Amazing!
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: PKirby]
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01/26/11 12:16 PM
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LMH Steel
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thanks boys, this is a good start....
I would consider HB but I read where screens were freezing....and one side of the si would read fine, but the other side would not work? any info on these issues? I have a 997 and 1197 and had no issues with either unit. No regrets and I have had them for about a year, the bigger screen really does make it alot easier to see.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: LMH Steel]
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01/26/11 01:44 PM
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nljones
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HB from shut-up and fish. Save money and works great and if you have to buy Lowrance retail instead of buying a HB from shut-up you'll save at least 40%. I called David and met him that afternoon and picked my unit. If you need help with an install PM me, I've put in three and would like to do more.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: nljones]
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01/26/11 02:43 PM
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fouzman
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PKirby, Here's a helpful tutorial on side imaging. I've owned both Birds and Lowrance. I'm running all Birds now. Why? Free downloads of upgrades, outstanding customer service and far fewer problems than Lowrance. http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...ing#Post5746036
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: fouzman]
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01/26/11 03:01 PM
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Beegfoot1
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I have the HB 797 on my boat and it works fine. Even with the small screen it's a vast improvement over sonar for identifying underwater structure - the trouble you are with the HB units you are talking about has been because of damage to the transducers and not trouble with the units themselves - I knocked mine off sliding off a stump and it got banged against the motor - It did not appear to be damaged but when I remounted it I had the exact problem you describe I still have the down image but sidescan only works on the right side - I'm pretty sure it can happen just as easily with a Lowrance unit as a Humminbird.
K.J.Courter AMERICAN ANGLERS "The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra Everyone needs to believe in something - I believe I'll go fishing.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: fouzman]
#5764303
01/26/11 03:03 PM
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Beegfoot1
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I have the HB 797 on my boat and it works fine. Even with the small screen it's a vast improvement over sonar for identifying underwater structure - the trouble with the HB units you are talking about has been because of damage to the transducers and not trouble with the units themselves - I knocked mine off sliding off a stump and it got banged against the motor - It did not appear to be damaged but when I remounted it I had the exact problem you describe I still have the down image but sidescan only works on the right side - I'm pretty sure it can happen just as easily with a Lowrance unit as a Humminbird.
K.J.Courter AMERICAN ANGLERS "The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra Everyone needs to believe in something - I believe I'll go fishing.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: Beegfoot1]
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01/26/11 03:07 PM
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Beegfoot1
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oops didn't mean to post that twice.............
K.J.Courter AMERICAN ANGLERS "The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra Everyone needs to believe in something - I believe I'll go fishing.
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Re: Help with the New Graphs!! Trying to make sense of the down scan, side scan, cat scan.....etc
[Re: Beegfoot1]
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01/26/11 03:10 PM
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Beegfoot1
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oops didn't mean to post that twice.............Haha
K.J.Courter AMERICAN ANGLERS "The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra Everyone needs to believe in something - I believe I'll go fishing.
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