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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: armyangler024] #4982652 06/16/10 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: armyangler024
My arguement is, that you really are not applying knowledge to the game when you know you have your secret stash in the lake, this sport is based on know what the game fish are doing and where you might think where they are, not knowing that they are there are on your area you built. In a way its like these baseball players using HGH to become better ball players.


no problem with what you said, but look at it this way...if you know an area that is holding fish and know why, then you have already done the hard part. what would be so wrong in simply "enhancing" this area to bring in more forage? you arent bringing them in there, you are simply giving them a reason to stay more thumb


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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Black Jack] #4982666 06/16/10 03:36 AM
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Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise.
quite possibly the most ridiculous statememt in the history of the TFF


I can see why the truth may hurt your feelings...
dude you aren't hurting my feelings...i just don't know where you would come up with such a bogus statement...it really shows how little you know about this little sport


Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Black Jack] #4982705 06/16/10 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Black Jack
Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise.


rolfmao and thats all i have to say about that!


Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: chunkNwind] #4982712 06/16/10 03:47 AM
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if they were not as knowlegeable as you say they arent, then they would be dropping that brush somewhere that makes no sense and would never hold fish.


Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: chunkNwind] #4982909 06/16/10 04:33 AM
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Wow what a heated debate. This is funny since in the state of Missouri the conservation department loads piles on a lot of lakes to create more fish habitat. Kentucky lake there are people that have large barge type boats that drop entire rock piles. Just because you sink cover does not mean the fish will load up on it. It may take a long period of time for this to happen or it may never happen if it was not placed strategicly.


Also the post where someone said something about dropping fish on the piles leading up to a tourney, and calling that cheating this is funny! A fish can and will swim miles with in the first couple hours a lot of times it is released in a new area. The area it is dropped has to have plentiful food and cover and make that fish feel comfortable for it to stay. This has never been against any rule in any tourney that I have ever fished. I've done it, but usually if I have done it I will pull fish that were say in the launch area that is off limits and where the fish are released from many tournies or out of marinas that have tons of dock fisherman that just throw any slab of bass in the icebox. Never will or have I done it out of areas that are productive that are on limits. But a lot of things have to be right for these fish to consider staying around most will move on right away or through the following days if they don't feel an area is right to them.


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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Skottyd4] #4982992 06/16/10 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Skottyd4
Wow what a heated debate. This is funny since in the state of Missouri the conservation department loads piles on a lot of lakes to create more fish habitat. Kentucky lake there are people that have large barge type boats that drop entire rock piles. Just because you sink cover does not mean the fish will load up on it. It may take a long period of time for this to happen or it may never happen if it was not placed strategicly.


Also the post where someone said something about dropping fish on the piles leading up to a tourney, and calling that cheating this is funny! A fish can and will swim miles with in the first couple hours a lot of times it is released in a new area. The area it is dropped has to have plentiful food and cover and make that fish feel comfortable for it to stay. This has never been against any rule in any tourney that I have ever fished. I've done it, but usually if I have done it I will pull fish that were say in the launch area that is off limits and where the fish are released from many tournies or out of marinas that have tons of dock fisherman that just throw any slab of bass in the icebox. Never will or have I done it out of areas that are productive that are on limits. But a lot of things have to be right for these fish to consider staying around most will move on right away or through the following days if they don't feel an area is right to them.


it really is a rule often times, funny or not..Releasing fish on your holes is called "salting" the whole and is listed as a rule infraction

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Brandon Dickenson] #4983228 06/16/10 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: Skottyd4
Wow what a heated debate. This is funny since in the state of Missouri the conservation department loads piles on a lot of lakes to create more fish habitat. Kentucky lake there are people that have large barge type boats that drop entire rock piles. Just because you sink cover does not mean the fish will load up on it. It may take a long period of time for this to happen or it may never happen if it was not placed strategicly.


Also the post where someone said something about dropping fish on the piles leading up to a tourney, and calling that cheating this is funny! A fish can and will swim miles with in the first couple hours a lot of times it is released in a new area. The area it is dropped has to have plentiful food and cover and make that fish feel comfortable for it to stay. This has never been against any rule in any tourney that I have ever fished. I've done it, but usually if I have done it I will pull fish that were say in the launch area that is off limits and where the fish are released from many tournies or out of marinas that have tons of dock fisherman that just throw any slab of bass in the icebox. Never will or have I done it out of areas that are productive that are on limits. But a lot of things have to be right for these fish to consider staying around most will move on right away or through the following days if they don't feel an area is right to them.


it really is a rule often times, funny or not..Releasing fish on your holes is called "salting" the whole and is listed as a rule infraction


Can you post some links to the ones you have seen, as I have never seen a rule like that.

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Jimmie Moreland] #4985522 06/16/10 08:38 PM
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I'd much rather find the structures through electronics still, maybe one day ill expirment with making my own structure and see what comes of it, for now, ill keep my integrity to the sport.

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: armyangler024] #4985655 06/16/10 09:01 PM
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I wonder if tourney fisherman had this arguement 40 years ago.. before all this sweet electronics.

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: txfishingrl11] #4986289 06/16/10 11:38 PM
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very good question??

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Skottyd4] #4986437 06/17/10 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Skottyd4
Wow what a heated debate. This is funny since in the state of Missouri the conservation department loads piles on a lot of lakes to create more fish habitat. Kentucky lake there are people that have large barge type boats that drop entire rock piles. Just because you sink cover does not mean the fish will load up on it. It may take a long period of time for this to happen or it may never happen if it was not placed strategicly.

Also the post where someone said something about dropping fish on the piles leading up to a tourney, and calling that cheating this is funny! A fish can and will swim miles with in the first couple hours a lot of times it is released in a new area. The area it is dropped has to have plentiful food and cover and make that fish feel comfortable for it to stay. This has never been against any rule in any tourney that I have ever fished. I've done it, but usually if I have done it I will pull fish that were say in the launch area that is off limits and where the fish are released from many tournies or out of marinas that have tons of dock fisherman that just throw any slab of bass in the icebox. Never will or have I done it out of areas that are productive that are on limits. But a lot of things have to be right for these fish to consider staying around most will move on right away or through the following days if they don't feel an area is right to them.


Agreed...


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Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: txfishingrl11] #4986453 06/17/10 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: adamh20
I wonder if tourney fisherman had this arguement 40 years ago.. before all this sweet electronics.


how do you think it started? hmmm

Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Black Jack] #4986455 06/17/10 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Black Jack
Anglers (including tournament anglers) that create their own artifical attractants I think is because they are not good enough to win without them and require this crutch to try to win. Without them, they are only average anglers. Without them, they lack confidence to locate fish consistently otherwise.


Its too bad you feel that way. If your a tournament fisherman then you have surely handed your money over to somebody who beat you fishing brushpiles that they put out themselves.


Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: blazeplatt] #4986478 06/17/10 12:42 AM
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took some scarp wood, tires and pvc pipe from work today when i was cleaning out behind the shop. Gonna go dump some on cypress and sandlin. call me a cheater



Re: Creating your own Honey hole, Is it Cheating or Smart? [Re: Jay Kendrick] #4986520 06/17/10 12:51 AM
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Whoops got on a soap box there for a min lol

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