+1 Killer. They are real rough on the bottom side. Reckon it can be fixed with a small drill or file? Yes big mike, they got 1oz.

A diamond coated tool for a dremel would be about the only thing that would touch it.

I know I wouldn't want to take a chance in a tournament of have my best fish ever on the line when a burr cut my line. I was looking at them today too and noticed the insert not protruding past the top. I know I had rather pay more for quality like Tim's or LFT's. Just my opinion.

The 3/4 oz ones were 5.49 apiece in Killeen yesterday.

I just saw one at the Edinburg store, it was unpainted and cost $5.49 or so. I didn't notice if it had an insert.\

That's the only size I saw. But they are putting the few remaining Tru-Tungstens on sale, so I guess they are closing them out in favor of the H20, same as the Gammy hooks, I suppose, since they didn't have much of anything in Gammy or Owners.

I didn't see a single Norman's either. (More lost sales!)
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It looked like they have a clear insert in them. Does tungsten tend to tear up the line with no insert?

It looked like they have a clear insert in them. Does tungsten tend to tear up the line with no insert?

Yes it will. As far as I know the only one that is designed to not have an insert is tru tungsten and in my opinion that is what sets them apart from the others.

The insert is actually what tears the line up. That's why the Tru-Tungsten weights are the best on the market. They figured out how to manufacture the weights without an insert.

+ 1 on truTungsten it's all I use.

Yup he's right. I also believe that is one of the reasons Tru Tungsten is higher. It is more expensive to manf them without the insert.

Realistically I'm not even sure they are more expensive. There is no doubt that over time you will lose a bunch of weights b/c inserts knick your line without you knowing. Factor the weights that end up on the bottom of the lake due to this and it has to be pretty close to a push.

I'll share with you everything I know about tungsten weights insert vs. no insert. Take it for what it's worth. I not only worked with manufacturers to develop my weights, but also work in the tool industry buying, selling, and grinding tungsten carbide.

Tungsten (carbide) is mined from the earth, and refined by grade and partice size. 95% of all raw tungsten comes from China. The tungsten powder is then combined with a binder material such as cobalt or nickle and cast into its raw form. The pliable form is then sintered in an oven at extremely high tempuratures to produce the finished product. Hardness is deturmined by not only the mix between the tungsten and the binder, but also by the tempurature and duration of the sintering process. Surface finish can not be guarranteed in this process and rough spots are common. It does not take much of an abrasion to fray fishing line.
I am not sure about all brands of weights, but I use PVC tubing which is very pliable and soft. It projects out the end and you can pinch it between your fingers and it returns to its shape. This insert will not harm line.

There is another process that involves honing the ID of the weight with a diamond polishing tool. I looked at a variety of sample weights treated with this process under 200X magnification, and deturmined the results to be inconsistent.

I did not want to risk abrassion for my own use, so decided to stick with the insert.

While tungsten is much more expensive than lead, the high prices we all paid in the beginning made a few people ALOT of money. We also paid for a lot of marketing and prostaff costs.
The price will continue to come down as more weights hit the market, but could be effected by raw material costs if demand from other uses increases.

Lower quality tungsten weights are made from recycled material and will be less dense and not as pure.

Be happy to answer anyone's questions.

The thing that I can't understand about the cost of Tungsten weights is how much they have gone up in just the last two years. With the state of the economy it seems that prices would have fallen instead of nearly doubling during this period.

Materials and the machining process is VERY expensive. Just just anyone can form-fab tungsten.

Hard to beat our prices and quality on Tungsten.. The current ones have the insert but we will be coming out with a non insert one as well in a couple months..

Ask 2x Classic Qualifier and fellow Texas Angelr Bryan Schmidt about our weights..

We stock from 1/8 to 2 oz sizes in both Black & GP..

We (Hookerz Tackle)are also a board sponsor on several Bass Related sites..

http://www.hookerztackle.com/Painted+Tungsten+Weights.html