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 Re: George Pickens
[Re: 1ShotNoKills]
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05/08/25 01:33 PM
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RayBob
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft.
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Re: George Pickens
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05/08/25 01:41 PM
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CrazyCrappieGuy
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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05/08/25 02:38 PM
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patriot07
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely. I do think the Pickens trade looks to be a decent deal for Dallas
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: patriot07]
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05/08/25 03:11 PM
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CrazyCrappieGuy
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely. I do think the Pickens trade looks to be a decent deal for Dallas There is all the reason in the world for Pickens to be a good teammate next season and ball it out as he is in the final year of his rookie contract. That would be win win for both Pickens and Cowboys.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: RayBob]
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05/08/25 03:41 PM
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... I think he is making 3-4 M now so you add another 30M to it and divide it by two. Pickens is gonna want to make way, way, way more than $30 million per year after his rookie deal expires... Like the rest of the top receivers in the league he's gonna want to be the highest paid non Qb in the league... Ya think Jerry overpaid Dak, wait till he pulls out his checkbook and writes a check for more than $40.25+ million per year for Pickens... Dan Franchise tag will be around 30M. What about the 5th year option? Second round pick, no 5th year option
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Re: George Pickens
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05/08/25 03:43 PM
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Happykamper
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely. They cannot cut him ( unless it is during the season ), he will be a free agent, also only way the Cowboys get a compensatory pick is if he signs with another team as a free agent.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/08/25 04:22 PM
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patriot07
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... I think he is making 3-4 M now so you add another 30M to it and divide it by two. Pickens is gonna want to make way, way, way more than $30 million per year after his rookie deal expires... Like the rest of the top receivers in the league he's gonna want to be the highest paid non Qb in the league... Ya think Jerry overpaid Dak, wait till he pulls out his checkbook and writes a check for more than $40.25+ million per year for Pickens... Dan Franchise tag will be around 30M. He could have paid Dak $40M this year and then tagged him for way less than $60M per year for the next 2. Doesn't mean he's gonna do it. He could have tagged DLaw and Zeke both for way less than he paid them. Both got paydays and stopped producing. Maybe Jerry has learned his lesson, but not super likely...
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Re: George Pickens
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05/08/25 04:43 PM
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RayBob
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Pickens pros and cons:
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Pickens is a real first round talent, who at 24 has huge upside. If he can show more maturity here, he as a chance to be a stud.
Pickens averages over 16 yards per catch in his career and has shown some consistency in getting open and making plays.
He has averaged about 60 receptions for 1,000 yds in his first three seasons, which is certainly very good for the role we need him to be here.
He’s been durable, playing in every game in 2022 and ‘23, and 14 last year.
He didn’t cost a fortune and has the potential to give this offense some juice it desperately needs
THE POTENTIAL BAD NEWS (CONS)
He has been one of the most fined players in the NFL for taunting and silly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, accumulating nearly $300k in fines.
He has a tendency to reduce effort and disappear when he is not targeted.
His target to reception ratio has been 59% but he has not played for the most accurate passers the last 3 years.
He only has one more year on his rookie contract.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: patriot07]
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05/08/25 06:33 PM
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Happykamper
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... I think he is making 3-4 M now so you add another 30M to it and divide it by two. Pickens is gonna want to make way, way, way more than $30 million per year after his rookie deal expires... Like the rest of the top receivers in the league he's gonna want to be the highest paid non Qb in the league... Ya think Jerry overpaid Dak, wait till he pulls out his checkbook and writes a check for more than $40.25+ million per year for Pickens... Dan Franchise tag will be around 30M. He could have paid Dak $40M this year and then tagged him for way less than $60M per year for the next 2. Doesn't mean he's gonna do it. He could have tagged DLaw and Zeke both for way less than he paid them. Both got paydays and stopped producing. Maybe Jerry has learned his lesson, but not super likely... You just don't get it and I am not going to explain it.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/08/25 07:50 PM
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CrazyCrappieGuy
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely. They cannot cut him ( unless it is during the season ), he will be a free agent, also only way the Cowboys get a compensatory pick is if he signs with another team as a free agent. That’s not what AI says… ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2025/05/full-14483-269192-img_2686.jpeg) The above is also what I been hearing on the radio.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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05/08/25 08:09 PM
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Happykamper
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My guess is a one year rental with a #2 WR in next year's draft. Take it one year at a time. If they only use him next next season then cut him, Cowboys get that 3rd round pick back the next season as a 3 round compensatory pick. This will give them leverage in negotiating a new deal with him, if that is what they want to do. Cutting him at the end of the season is very likely. They cannot cut him ( unless it is during the season ), he will be a free agent, also only way the Cowboys get a compensatory pick is if he signs with another team as a free agent. That’s not what AI says… The above is also what I been hearing on the radio. Not here to argue but how are they going to cut him after the season ? He is a free agent after the season.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/08/25 08:34 PM
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CrazyCrappieGuy
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Not here to argue but how are they going to cut him after the season ? He is a free agent after the season.
NFL players become free agents start of the next year, in this case March 2026. This year it was March 25th. So they could cut him before March (which would be the nice thing to do) or let him become a free agent in March, either way Cowboys would get a compensatory 3rd round pick in 2027. If they don’t resign him.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: RayBob]
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05/08/25 08:38 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Pickens pros and cons:
(PROS)
Pickens is a real first round talent, who at 24 has huge upside. If he can show more maturity here, he as a chance to be a stud.
Pickens averages over 16 yards per catch in his career and has shown some consistency in getting open and making plays.
He has averaged about 60 receptions for 1,000 yds in his first three seasons, which is certainly very good for the role we need him to be here.
He’s been durable, playing in every game in 2022 and ‘23, and 14 last year.
He didn’t cost a fortune and has the potential to give this offense some juice it desperately needs
THE POTENTIAL BAD NEWS (CONS)
He has been one of the most fined players in the NFL for taunting and silly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, accumulating nearly $300k in fines.
He has a tendency to reduce effort and disappear when he is not targeted.
His target to reception ratio has been 59% but he has not played for the most accurate passers the last 3 years.
He only has one more year on his rookie contract. In other words, typical knucklehead doosh that Jerruh the doosh tends to want on his teams. This will be great comedy.
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Re: George Pickens
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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05/08/25 10:19 PM
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Happykamper
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Not here to argue but how are they going to cut him after the season ? He is a free agent after the season.
NFL players become free agents start of the next year, in this case March 2026. This year it was March 25th. So they could cut him before March (which would be the nice thing to do) or let him become a free agent in March, either way Cowboys would get a compensatory 3rd round pick in 2027. If they don’t resign him. I guess I do not get what the benefit would be by cutting him after the season is over versus just letting him become a free agent, either way the Cowboys would get a compensatory pick, and that pick is not necessarily going to be a third rounder, it depends on other things happening, hopefully it will be if they decide to move on from him.
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