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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: Jaredk]
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03/26/25 03:39 PM
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tmd11111
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winner of the classic was 22 years old and runnerup was 20 years old …. where is tournament fishing headed? title of the thread was "so much for years of experience".......meaning that 10,20 or 30 years of experience can no longer compete with a few years experience scoping for fish.....and...where is tournament bass fishing headed....FFS banned or limited? older guys retiring from fishing tournaments? how about fishing tackle industry collapsing except for plastic minnows and jig heads....if youger guys dominate but can't afford expensive boats,what happens? will the fish learn to start fleeing from scoping? next few years are going to be interesting..... Just imagine what somebody could do if they had “years of experience” AND a cheaterscope. I don’t understand the “cannot compete with part”. Everybody has the same exact rules They'd rather b!tch and complain then put forth the effort to learn it.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: Jaredk]
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03/26/25 03:56 PM
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What’s stopping the old cooters? I really don’t understand.
That is a good question, in my case its hard to commit to using the FFS all day when i have so much history flowing around in my head. To me to be good at FFS it require commitment to fishing with it all day. I often wonder is this is where the experience hurts some of the older generation.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: John175☮]
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03/26/25 03:57 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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$100,000 boats, $800 rods and reels but FFS technology is a step too far.  Sums it up.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: rickys]
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03/26/25 04:01 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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How do a lot of the young anglers afford the sport? I know when I was in my young 20's there was no way possible I could afford a new $100k+ boat and all the equipment it takes to be competitive at a high level. It helps if you have parents with money. Don’t ask me how I have my new Ranger. 
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/26/25 05:16 PM
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BrockstaRama
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame.
When I am not fishing I am thinking about fishing. And mostly what I should have done differently my last trip! #Brockstarama
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: BrockstaRama]
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03/26/25 05:24 PM
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Jaredk
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame. Like Matt Herren, Boyd Duckett, Jeff Sprague, Mike Long, Tony Christian, Scott Martin, Robbie Rose type integrity? Them youngsters just don’t have this old school type integrity
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: Jaredk]
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03/26/25 05:51 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame. Like Matt Herren, Boyd Duckett, Jeff Sprague, Mike Long, Tony Christian, Scott Martin, Robbie Rose type integrity? Them youngsters just don’t have this old school type integrity 
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: BrockstaRama]
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03/26/25 06:25 PM
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame. I thought that happened with the Googans and the YouTubers vs. tournament fishermen, which resulted in Terkla & Milliken hitting the tournament trail to prove they could fish?
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/26/25 07:31 PM
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I'm so tired of hearing or seeing this every time you turn around. I fished a small event last Sat and got my butt kicked the old fashioned way, took 32.04 to win and they were not scoping. Good for them, bad for me. I like seeing fish bust a frog, attack a blade from a bush, swirl on a fluke and the tap-tap when I pitch under a dock. I can afford FFS but don't have it and may not get it but I don't resent the guys that do have it. I've got more to worry about in life than how someone catches fish. Yall need to get over the whole age thing as well. KVD, J Lee, BP were all young guns that were shaking up the olds when they started - and all of them now use FFS.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: Jaredk]
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03/26/25 07:50 PM
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame. Like Matt Herren, Boyd Duckett, Jeff Sprague, Mike Long, Tony Christian, Scott Martin, Robbie Rose type integrity? Them youngsters just don’t have this old school type integrity Integrity…..really. Have you not been around a bunch of people with a pot of money to win? From club level up there are sheisters. Fishing is full of them! The pedestal some folks put these anglers on is unbelievable.
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Re: so much for years of experience
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03/26/25 07:57 PM
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Jaredk
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I use to care but it's doesn't even matter. The industry DESERVES these little future monsters and the little integrity they convey in their vids. Just watch, I see what's coming. It'll go from ,oh you fish bass tourneys? That's cool." to "oh...you're one of those". Calling it. Based on the trajectory now I'll give it 3 years. When they get off their parents insurnace time frame. Like Matt Herren, Boyd Duckett, Jeff Sprague, Mike Long, Tony Christian, Scott Martin, Robbie Rose type integrity? Them youngsters just don’t have this old school type integrity Integrity…..really. Have you not been around a bunch of people with a pot of money to win? From club level up there are sheisters. Fishing is full of them! The pedestal some folks put these anglers on is unbelievable. That’s where I’m different than most guys. I’m not in it for the money. I do it for the ladies
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/26/25 08:18 PM
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The young FFS guys are like the the progressive bunch in the country. They have found an easy way to do things .They have spent thousands of dollars to have what they have I don't blame them for being mad when people say that FFS has got to go .They think that they are doing no wrong. I used to think I was doing no wrong when spot lighting deer either until it got to where deer were getting harder and harder to find . Then parks and wild life took it on and for the most part got it under control . FFS will be the same before long .Congress in each state will have to pass a law stopping it .It will have to be done or bass fishing will get even tough on the FFS guys like it has @ O.H.IVY. THESE YOUNG GUNS WILL WONDER LIKE JOSH JONES WHY THEY CAN SEE THE FISH BUT CAN NOT CATCH THE FISH.
Butch Farmer
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: tmd11111]
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03/26/25 08:31 PM
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over the hill @PK
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I put 65 years into learning it the hard way and to have it thrown out for a machine to take it's place dose not sat well when I can see with my on eyes how it is unfair not to us old fishermen but so unfair to the fish that us old foggies have loved competing for for so many years. FFS makes a kid an expert in no time at all .It has always been the same you go to abusing it and soon there is no more of it
Butch Farmer
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: over the hill @PK]
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03/26/25 08:37 PM
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I put 65 years into learning it the hard way and to have it thrown out for a machine to take it's place dose not sat well when I can see with my on eyes how it is unfair not to us old fishermen but so unfair to the fish that us old foggies have loved competing for for so many years. FFS makes a kid an expert in no time at all .It has always been the same you go to abusing it and soon there is no more of it You abuse English grammar and writing, nobody has banned you. 
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: over the hill @PK]
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03/26/25 08:57 PM
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tmd11111
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I put 65 years into learning it the hard way and to have it thrown out for a machine to take it's place dose not sat well when I can see with my on eyes how it is unfair not to us old fishermen but so unfair to the fish that us old foggies have loved competing for for so many years. FFS makes a kid an expert in no time at all .It has always been the same you go to abusing it and soon there is no more of it So why hasn't it made the old an expert in no time at all. You'd think with all their years of knowledge and experience combined with FFS they'd be unstoppable. Or perhaps, and this is going out on a limb. These young guns are better fisherman they you give them credit for.
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