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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: B.K.S.] #15362350 03/26/25 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by B.K.S.
The loudest voices on here are the scope at any cost crowd, the old man bad crowd, the he’s just being hypocritical crowd. I believe you’re missing the point in the conversation. What are the long term cost? How much technology is too much? A very good point was brought up about every other sport limits something in that sport. Not to take anything away from the young man who won under today’s rules, Congratulations! But that doesn’t mean the sport is healthy for the long term either.



Realistically, we are the zip it because it’s legal and quit crying all the time. Almost every thread, whine whine whine. Whining about a 19 year old, whining because guys got DQ’d for breaking rules, whining about the front looker, it just never ever ends with you people.


Let me add in the: whining about a 22yo winning. Whining about “spectators” on the water. I have to hope that I’m taken out of this world, before I start acting like the “yell’s about everything” crowd. Some of you are truly miserable people.

Oh I have to add in the, “but their mommy and daddy spoils them” guy. Yeah, some people are wealthy, get over yourself & envy.

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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: beartrap] #15362354 03/26/25 02:01 AM
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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: Tiltman] #15362356 03/26/25 02:03 AM
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That means ANYONE an do it. It doesn’t take lifetimes of learning….just a few short classes on scoping. roflmao


I put LVS35 on y boat a month ago. Ive been out 6 times with it and I'm pissed. I still backlash, make errant casts, break off, hang up, grind rocks with my TM, struggle with boat control in 15mph wind and there is nothing on the dang thing that says THAT'S A BASS, AND the fish don't seem to know that minnow im swimming right over their heads is meant for them, bang



wait! there is now an LVS 35 ?


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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: grout-scout] #15362395 03/26/25 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by B.K.S.
The loudest voices on here are the scope at any cost crowd, the old man bad crowd, the he’s just being hypocritical crowd. I believe you’re missing the point in the conversation. What are the long term cost? How much technology is too much? A very good point was brought up about every other sport limits something in that sport. Not to take anything away from the young man who won under today’s rules, Congratulations! But that doesn’t mean the sport is healthy for the long term either.



Realistically, we are the zip it because it’s legal and quit crying all the time. Almost every thread, whine whine whine. Whining about a 19 year old, whining because guys got DQ’d for breaking rules, whining about the front looker, it just never ever ends with you people.


Let me add in the: whining about a 22yo winning. Whining about “spectators” on the water. I have to hope that I’m taken out of this world, before I start acting like the “yell’s about everything” crowd. Some of you are truly miserable people.

Oh I have to add in the, “but their mommy and daddy spoils them” guy. Yeah, some people are wealthy, get over yourself & envy.

Nope gonna have to disagree with you on that , the scoper crowd on here far out numbers the NB crowd and is definitely more loud about it. Most but NOT ALL have the opinion that their opinion is the only one that matters and the rest of us are just cranky old farts. Look back, who has said anything negative about the young man that won, certainly not I. As far as the mommy and daddy spoils them crowd so just get over it, spoiling the kid gets you what finished in 2nd place. If you think that he and his mommy are a good look for bass then 👍


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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: B.K.S.] #15362418 03/26/25 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by B.K.S.
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Originally Posted by B.K.S.
The loudest voices on here are the scope at any cost crowd, the old man bad crowd, the he’s just being hypocritical crowd. I believe you’re missing the point in the conversation. What are the long term cost? How much technology is too much? A very good point was brought up about every other sport limits something in that sport. Not to take anything away from the young man who won under today’s rules, Congratulations! But that doesn’t mean the sport is healthy for the long term either.



Realistically, we are the zip it because it’s legal and quit crying all the time. Almost every thread, whine whine whine. Whining about a 19 year old, whining because guys got DQ’d for breaking rules, whining about the front looker, it just never ever ends with you people.


Let me add in the: whining about a 22yo winning. Whining about “spectators” on the water. I have to hope that I’m taken out of this world, before I start acting like the “yell’s about everything” crowd. Some of you are truly miserable people.

Oh I have to add in the, “but their mommy and daddy spoils them” guy. Yeah, some people are wealthy, get over yourself & envy.

Nope gonna have to disagree with you on that , the scoper crowd on here far out numbers the NB crowd and is definitely more loud about it. Most but NOT ALL have the opinion that their opinion is the only one that matters and the rest of us are just cranky old farts. Look back, who has said anything negative about the young man that won, certainly not I. As far as the mommy and daddy spoils them crowd so just get over it, spoiling the kid gets you what finished in 2nd place. If you think that he and his mommy are a good look for bass then 👍

If everyone just minded their own business this magically goes away👍

Re: so much for years of experience [Re: beartrap] #15362470 03/26/25 11:42 AM
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if everyone minded their own business,this fishing forum would magically go away...

Re: so much for years of experience [Re: beartrap] #15362485 03/26/25 11:52 AM
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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: Mark Perry] #15362520 03/26/25 12:28 PM
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Were the olders anglers mad when Bryan Kerchal won it? He was pretty young and I bet the young anglers in the Elites today have far more experience than he did.

It was the whistle. Gotta ban those whistles.


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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: B.K.S.] #15362573 03/26/25 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by B.K.S.

Nope gonna have to disagree with you on that , the scoper crowd on here far out numbers the NB crowd and is definitely more loud about it. Most but NOT ALL have the opinion that their opinion is the only one that matters and the rest of us are just cranky old farts. Look back, who has said anything negative about the young man that won, certainly not I. As far as the mommy and daddy spoils them crowd so just get over it, spoiling the kid gets you what finished in 2nd place. If you think that he and his mommy are a good look for bass then 👍



You can certainly disagree, but you’re wrong. You don’t see anyone saying, “oh my goodness, livescope is so awesome to watch in tournaments”. What you read is, “it’s legal, quit crying about it” & “you better learn it, if you’re gonna compete with the ‘yutes.”

Who said anything about the 22 yo winning??? Ummm, did you see the first comment in this thread created specifically because of a 22 yo winning, apparently not.

Do I think McKinney and his momma are good for the sport? There is nothing tournament related that’s good for the sport, zero. I think BASS loves the kid because of the huge high school/college return he can bring. Sure, he’s a bit ADD, but most of the kids now a days are different. If you don’t see that, then you’re not around many kids. People hated KVD when he came onto the scene, they hated Skeet Reese, Gerald Swindle, Jacob Wheeler, this is nothing new. People can’t deal with change, especially when they are constantly yelling about the clouds. Unfortunately for the McKinney haters, that boy isn’t going away, you will be hearing his name for awhile.

Re: so much for years of experience [Re: John175☮] #15362578 03/26/25 01:34 PM
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How do a lot of the young anglers afford the sport? I know when I was in my young 20's there was no way possible I could afford a new $100k+ boat and all the equipment it takes to be competitive at a high level.

Re: so much for years of experience [Re: beartrap] #15362600 03/26/25 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by beartrap
winner of the classic was 22 years old and runnerup was 20 years old ….
where is tournament fishing headed?


title of the thread was "so much for years of experience".......meaning that 10,20 or 30 years of experience can no longer compete with a few years experience scoping for fish.....and...where is tournament bass fishing headed....FFS banned or limited? older guys retiring from fishing tournaments? how about fishing tackle industry collapsing except for plastic minnows and jig heads....if youger guys dominate but can't afford expensive boats,what happens?
will the fish learn to start fleeing from scoping?
next few years are going to be interesting.....

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Originally Posted by beartrap
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winner of the classic was 22 years old and runnerup was 20 years old ….
where is tournament fishing headed?


title of the thread was "so much for years of experience".......meaning that 10,20 or 30 years of experience can no longer compete with a few years experience scoping for fish.....and...where is tournament bass fishing headed....FFS banned or limited? older guys retiring from fishing tournaments? how about fishing tackle industry collapsing except for plastic minnows and jig heads....if youger guys dominate but can't afford expensive boats,what happens?
will the fish learn to start fleeing from scoping?
next few years are going to be interesting.....

Just imagine what somebody could do if they had “years of experience” AND a cheaterscope.

I don’t understand the “cannot compete with part”. Everybody has the same exact rules

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Originally Posted by Jaredk
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winner of the classic was 22 years old and runnerup was 20 years old ….
where is tournament fishing headed?


title of the thread was "so much for years of experience".......meaning that 10,20 or 30 years of experience can no longer compete with a few years experience scoping for fish.....and...where is tournament bass fishing headed....FFS banned or limited? older guys retiring from fishing tournaments? how about fishing tackle industry collapsing except for plastic minnows and jig heads....if youger guys dominate but can't afford expensive boats,what happens?
will the fish learn to start fleeing from scoping?
next few years are going to be interesting.....

Just imagine what somebody could do if they had “years of experience” AND a cheaterscope.

I don’t understand the “cannot compete with part”. Everybody has the same exact rules


why are young guys dominating tourny fishing?...1st and second classic places went to a 22 and 20 year old...17 year old just won a toyota tourney in Florida....half of the Bassmaster classic qualifiers appear to be 25 years or younger...
is it due to younger people being better with electroinics especially being able to see what's on the screen better? or adjusting their electronics to get the maximum viewing?
is what an older fishermen has learned over the years not really accurate and it's far better to fish open water and for fish you are actually seeing?

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Originally Posted by John175☮
$100,000 boats, $800 rods and reels but FFS technology is a step too far. roflmao


throw in bare feets and cant speaks, and you got what we got
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Re: so much for years of experience [Re: beartrap] #15362664 03/26/25 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by beartrap
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Originally Posted by beartrap
Originally Posted by beartrap
winner of the classic was 22 years old and runnerup was 20 years old ….
where is tournament fishing headed?


title of the thread was "so much for years of experience".......meaning that 10,20 or 30 years of experience can no longer compete with a few years experience scoping for fish.....and...where is tournament bass fishing headed....FFS banned or limited? older guys retiring from fishing tournaments? how about fishing tackle industry collapsing except for plastic minnows and jig heads....if youger guys dominate but can't afford expensive boats,what happens?
will the fish learn to start fleeing from scoping?
next few years are going to be interesting.....

Just imagine what somebody could do if they had “years of experience” AND a cheaterscope.

I don’t understand the “cannot compete with part”. Everybody has the same exact rules


why are young guys dominating tourny fishing?...1st and second classic places went to a 22 and 20 year old...17 year old just won a toyota tourney in Florida....half of the Bassmaster classic qualifiers appear to be 25 years or younger...
is it due to younger people being better with electroinics especially being able to see what's on the screen better? or adjusting their electronics to get the maximum viewing?
is what an older fishermen has learned over the years not really accurate and it's far better to fish open water and for fish you are actually seeing?

What’s stopping the old cooters? I really don’t understand.

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