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Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: T Bird] #15283945 12/27/24 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by T Bird
I imagine all those documents can be pretty easily obtained illegally.

… probably much easier than citizens can bang

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15283966 12/27/24 08:02 PM
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Anything fake can be made to look real. Just look at the MSM.

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15284135 12/28/24 12:56 AM
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the real problem is
in their on countries
all over the World
they don't get to drive
then they get here
& can't wait
so they don't know how to drive at all

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15284153 12/28/24 01:20 AM
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They've figured out how to avoid the long waits at the DMV

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: RedRanger] #15284338 12/28/24 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Big business wants them here. DC does what big business wants.


Big business wants them here? The illegals?

Negative they can't work legally if they enter the country illegally and don't have EAD (Employment Authorization Document) aka work permit nor a green card.

Social Security will not issue them a Social Security Number, they use SAVE System from USCIS to check their immigration status.

Same thing with DPS, Texas Department of Transit will not issue a Driver License nor a Texas ID if they are here illegally.


In case you have not noticed, there are over 13 million currently working


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Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: T Bird] #15284350 12/28/24 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by T Bird
I imagine all those documents can be pretty easily obtained illegally.


Nope, You would have to enter the US legally and maintain your legal status to show up as legally in the USA using SAVE System, no way to manipulate it.

Thus the reason Social Security Administration and Texas Department of Transportation uses SAVE System: https://www.uscis.gov/save

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: pchapin] #15284353 12/28/24 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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Originally Posted by reeltexan


Big business wants them here. DC does what big business wants.


Big business wants them here? The illegals?

Negative they can't work legally if they enter the country illegally and don't have EAD (Employment Authorization Document) aka work permit nor a green card.

Social Security will not issue them a Social Security Number, they use SAVE System from USCIS to check their immigration status.

Same thing with DPS, Texas Department of Transit will not issue a Driver License nor a Texas ID if they are here illegally.


In case you have not noticed, there are over 13 million currently working


That is because the laws are not enforced on immigration in USA.

Even in Texas you will never see a police officer asking about immigration status.

Go to Japan or most any other country and police will arrest if you are in the country illegally, or overstayed a visa, or trying to work on tourist visa.

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15284385 12/28/24 01:04 PM
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I have been to a number of other countries. You better be ready to show your Passport and VISA in many of them. You carry it with you when you are out. You also better be within the term of your VISA both in duration and purpose. Working on a tourist VISA will not go well.They don’t play.

In the US they won’t ask about legal status even when they should question it.

Being illegal only becomes a problem for them when laws are enforced which they increasingly over the last 4 years have not been. That’s going to change some on Jan 20.

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Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: pchapin] #15284388 12/28/24 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
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They probably won’t do anything to her unless she was intoxicated at the time. While on his motorcycle last February, my wife’s son got hit by an illegal alien, uninsured driver. She hit him. He lost his leg below the knee.

Exactly zero happened to her even though she let her insurance expire after 1 month. She only had it to get the vehicle registered. Some hoe she has an Oklahoma drivers license.

When I say zero happened, I mean zero. Not even a traffic ticket. She went back to doing exactly what she was doing before she hit him.

My wife’s tried to pressure the local PD to do something. It wasn’t worth the aggravation. You can’t sue her and get anything. She doesn’t have anything to get. Lives in a rented apartment. Even the vehicle isn’t in her name.


She shouldn’t have even been here, just doesn’t make sense-

If our business owners would quit inviting them to come, they would not be here.


While that is part of it, they've figured out how to get on the public dole and not have to work. Free money.


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Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: pchapin] #15284397 12/28/24 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
Originally Posted by RedRanger
Originally Posted by reeltexan


Big business wants them here. DC does what big business wants.


Big business wants them here? The illegals?

Negative they can't work legally if they enter the country illegally and don't have EAD (Employment Authorization Document) aka work permit nor a green card.

Social Security will not issue them a Social Security Number, they use SAVE System from USCIS to check their immigration status.

Same thing with DPS, Texas Department of Transit will not issue a Driver License nor a Texas ID if they are here illegally.


In case you have not noticed, there are over 13 million currently working


I am hoping to see this number decline starting in January when mass deportations starts. I am hoping elections have consequences for these criminals.


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Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: pchapin] #15284793 12/28/24 07:59 PM
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I'd like to see some credible proof of that.

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15284795 12/28/24 08:02 PM
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Zero should be the only acceptable number of illegals…working or not.

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: bloo_rainger] #15284801 12/28/24 08:11 PM
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One of the things we used to do, until the DAs made us quit, is put a hold on every vehicle with an unlicensed driver that we impounded. When the registered owner came to pick it up we would issue them a citation. That made a lot of people quit lending their vehicles out to their unlicensed, undocumented, often intoxicated friends / relatives. And because those unlicensed, undocumented friends / relatives (whose names were never what they told you) were not covered by the vehicle's insurance, by virtue of being unlicensed, anyone they hit was SOL. Back in the day we could arrest those people if they didn't have a valid ID, but that got cut off by the attorneys.

So now, if you get hit by an unlicensed operator with no valid ID, they receive a citation in the bogus name they gave. They never show up at court, the warrants are issued for people who don't exist, and the owner of the vehicle is no longer penalized for allowing that person to drive it. Thanks, libtards.

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: Jim Ford] #15284837 12/28/24 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Ford
One of the things we used to do, until the DAs made us quit, is put a hold on every vehicle with an unlicensed driver that we impounded. When the registered owner came to pick it up we would issue them a citation. That made a lot of people quit lending their vehicles out to their unlicensed, undocumented, often intoxicated friends / relatives. And because those unlicensed, undocumented friends / relatives (whose names were never what they told you) were not covered by the vehicle's insurance, by virtue of being unlicensed, anyone they hit was SOL. Back in the day we could arrest those people if they didn't have a valid ID, but that got cut off by the attorneys.

So now, if you get hit by an unlicensed operator with no valid ID, they receive a citation in the bogus name they gave. They never show up at court, the warrants are issued for people who don't exist, and the owner of the vehicle is no longer penalized for allowing that person to drive it. Thanks, libtards.


This is exactly what we should do
Also with bad drivers regardless of race or standing
This would help traffic & accidents

Re: Zulma Beltran hit and run driver [Re: butch sanders] #15284849 12/28/24 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by butch sanders
Originally Posted by Jim Ford
One of the things we used to do, until the DAs made us quit, is put a hold on every vehicle with an unlicensed driver that we impounded. When the registered owner came to pick it up we would issue them a citation. That made a lot of people quit lending their vehicles out to their unlicensed, undocumented, often intoxicated friends / relatives. And because those unlicensed, undocumented friends / relatives (whose names were never what they told you) were not covered by the vehicle's insurance, by virtue of being unlicensed, anyone they hit was SOL. Back in the day we could arrest those people if they didn't have a valid ID, but that got cut off by the attorneys.

So now, if you get hit by an unlicensed operator with no valid ID, they receive a citation in the bogus name they gave. They never show up at court, the warrants are issued for people who don't exist, and the owner of the vehicle is no longer penalized for allowing that person to drive it. Thanks, libtards.


This is exactly what we should do
Also with bad drivers regardless of race or standing
This would help traffic & accidents


Good plan.


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