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Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 03:09 AM
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 03:11 AM
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I’m here for the screen shot
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 03:14 AM
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 04:25 AM
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I’m here for the screen shot
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 11:43 AM
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 11:55 AM
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Lol, I'll play. Not murder. When you and the little miss have been fighting and the cops are on the way it's probably not the best idea to be standing in the kitchen with a gun when they come through the door. And probably equally bad idea to tell them dont come in here boss...... if your goal is to get shot by police I would think that would usually get it done.
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:28 PM
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:33 PM
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hmm having a gun in ones own house standing in the kitchen by himself should be shot by a cop. BS The women we outside no one was in danger till the cop went in and killed him. I doubt the cop gets in trouble but I don't understand how anyone thinks he should have been shot for owning a gun in his house
what happen to castle laws, the cop went into his house and everyone was out of there but him
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:37 PM
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I doubt murder will get any traction. Maybe some lesser manslaughter charges might be filed. I didn’t really see any thing the guy did to instigate the shooting he got. Maybe I missed some aggressive move, but it seems the cop could have backed off and de escalated the situation. Just another reason being a cop was never an option for me.
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:41 PM
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hmm having a gun in ones own house standing in the kitchen by himself should be shot by a cop. BS The women we outside no one was in danger till the cop went in and killed him. I doubt the cop gets in trouble but I don't understand how anyone thinks he should have been shot for owning a gun in his house
what happen to castle laws, the cop went into his house and everyone was out of there but him It's just common sense, try and put the odds in your favor and this guy clearly did not. First off why in the middle of a domestic dispute do you go get the gun? Is it your wubby, your safety blanket? The police show up to a frantic caller, she comes running out of house like it's on fire, LEO enters and there is a DA standing in the kitchen with a gun and threatens him.....sometimes stupid gets what it gets and that's just how it goes.
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:45 PM
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hmm having a gun in ones own house standing in the kitchen by himself should be shot by a cop. BS The women we outside no one was in danger till the cop went in and killed him. I doubt the cop gets in trouble but I don't understand how anyone thinks he should have been shot for owning a gun in his house
what happen to castle laws, the cop went into his house and everyone was out of there but him I understand your reasoning here….but, at the point where a cop is in your house with his gun drawn, it would be a pretty good idea to put yours down or risk the consequences. You can have your “I have the right to be in my house with a gun” argument better if you are still alive.
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 12:47 PM
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I agree with WAWI it was incredibly stupid of the guy to have a gun in that situation. That said, I slowed the video down as much as possible, I did not see the man raise the weapon. Hard to tell though. Nobody seems erratic. The man responded to the cop calmly. In my opinion the cop should have issued a command to drop the weapon and only fired if the man raised the weapon. Agree with Hasben de-escalation would have been a better path. Tough to Monday morning quarterback.
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 01:04 PM
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I agree with WAWI it was incredibly stupid of the guy to have a gun in that situation. That said, I slowed the video down as much as possible, I did not see the man raise the weapon. Hard to tell though. Nobody seems erratic. The man responded to the cop calmly. In my opinion the cop should have issued a command to drop the weapon and only fired if the man raised the weapon. Agree with Hasben de-escalation would have been a better path. Tough to Monday morning quarterback. I knew I could make a proper person out of you at some point
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Re: Murder or Not?
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04/09/24 01:12 PM
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hmm having a gun in ones own house standing in the kitchen by himself should be shot by a cop. BS The women we outside no one was in danger till the cop went in and killed him. I doubt the cop gets in trouble but I don't understand how anyone thinks he should have been shot for owning a gun in his house
what happen to castle laws, the cop went into his house and everyone was out of there but him I understand your reasoning here….but, at the point where a cop is in your house with his gun drawn, it would be a pretty good idea to put yours down or risk the consequences. You can have your “I have the right to be in my house with a gun” argument better if you are still alive. I also didn't see anything in the video that the man raised his gun and why did the police go in if the lady was outside saying he has a gun. Why didn't they just order him outside without the gun. I don't see any reason for the cops to go in period at that point. The people are upset, the police are in charge and why didn't they deescalate the situation and or shoot a gas can in to force him out or just let him settle down and walk out on his own. The guy went in with gun pulled for what reason no one was in there but the man with a gun in his own house. yes should he have put his gun down yes but it was his house and probably expected the police to protect him also not come in with guns a blazing There was simply no reason for this shooting at this point when the police had other options that may save lives
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