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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
[Re: RCarter]
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02/20/24 04:45 PM
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COKEMAN
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Rule is not specific enough if someone wants to protest...again the way it is written pertains to fishing locations not ramps I've never seen ramps be an issue in any rule set. Here the applicable rule would be "navigable tournament waters accessible by boat and available to the public." If one was going to protest this, then the tournament director(s) would have to decide if that area is considered accessible by boat since it sounds like you can't get through that culvert from the main lake (I have no idea, don't know the area). Tournament rules used to simply say "connected to the main lake, etc.," but that was changed since some guys were fishing backwaters that were just "connected" to the lake by a small drain or something and there was no way to get to it by boat, but it was "connected" and often completely private property. If there is a way to get a boat through that culvert, then I say they are good, they just got lucky and found a ramp back there so they didn't have to pull a plug or something to get through. Sounds like a tough day, congrats to the winner.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/20/24 04:51 PM
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WAWI
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Rule is not specific enough if someone wants to protest...again the way it is written pertains to fishing locations not ramps I've never seen ramps be an issue in any rule set. Here the applicable rule would be "navigable tournament waters accessible by boat and available to the public." If one was going to protest this, then the tournament director(s) would have to decide if that area is considered accessible by boat since it sounds like you can't get through that culvert from the main lake (I have no idea, don't know the area). Tournament rules used to simply say "connected to the main lake, etc.," but that was changed since some guys were fishing backwaters that were just "connected" to the lake by a small drain or something and there was no way to get to it by boat, but it was "connected" and often completely private property. If there is a way to get a boat through that culvert, then I say they are good, they just got lucky and found a ramp back there so they didn't have to pull a plug or something to get through. Sounds like a tough day, congrats to the winner. People get upset about outside of the box thinkers in fishing
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
[Re: WAWI]
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02/20/24 04:56 PM
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People get upset about outside of the box thinkers in fishing
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
[Re: RCarter]
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02/21/24 03:19 AM
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KevinT.
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Bass Champs rule #15
15. PERMITTED FISHING LOCATIONS: Contestants may fish anywhere on navigable tournament waters accessible by boat and available to the public, except areas designated as "off limits" or "no fishing" by state or federal officials, or within 50 yards of a competitor's boat which was first anchored (an anchored boat is a boat held in a stable position by a line attached to a weight with the trolling motor in the up position), or within 25 yards of a non-anchored competitor's boat unless otherwise agreed upon by the other tournament angler. The act of moving bass from one area of the lake to another confined area of the same lake at any time, whether or not during practice days or competition days, is not permitted. Not trying to argue with you BUT rule is addressing FISHING LOCATIONS not RAMPS that can be used. - Yeppers
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
[Re: WAWI]
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02/21/24 04:41 PM
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COKEMAN
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Rule is not specific enough if someone wants to protest...again the way it is written pertains to fishing locations not ramps I've never seen ramps be an issue in any rule set. Here the applicable rule would be "navigable tournament waters accessible by boat and available to the public." If one was going to protest this, then the tournament director(s) would have to decide if that area is considered accessible by boat since it sounds like you can't get through that culvert from the main lake (I have no idea, don't know the area). Tournament rules used to simply say "connected to the main lake, etc.," but that was changed since some guys were fishing backwaters that were just "connected" to the lake by a small drain or something and there was no way to get to it by boat, but it was "connected" and often completely private property. If there is a way to get a boat through that culvert, then I say they are good, they just got lucky and found a ramp back there so they didn't have to pull a plug or something to get through. Sounds like a tough day, congrats to the winner. People get upset about outside of the box thinkers in fishing Agreed
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 05:29 PM
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I think the argument wasn't the ramp, it was accessing a place that, at the current level, isn't accessible from any public ramps on the main lake, which is in fact against BC rules. Just what I am hearing.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 05:49 PM
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I think the argument wasn't the ramp, it was accessing a place that, at the current level, isn't accessible from any public ramps on the main lake, which is in fact against BC rules. Just what I am hearing. If this is the case then why was no formal protest made? Maybe whatever rule you are referring to is not specific enough?
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 05:55 PM
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Chris G
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I think the argument wasn't the ramp, it was accessing a place that, at the current level, isn't accessible from any public ramps on the main lake, which is in fact against BC rules. Just what I am hearing. There were other boat(s) in there that went through the culvert but it required a smaller boat. The guys that launched over there didn't break any written rule.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 05:56 PM
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J.H.S.
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I think the argument wasn't the ramp, it was accessing a place that, at the current level, isn't accessible from any public ramps on the main lake, which is in fact against BC rules. Just what I am hearing. If this is the case then why was no formal protest made? Maybe whatever rule you are referring to is not specific enough? Yea I don't know. I remember a year or two ago on the Red River, the team that probably would have won it got DQ'd because they accessed an area (from a public ramp) that wasn't accessible from the main river due to water level. I think this may be the same sort of deal (allegedly). Certainly not accusing, just stating what the arguments were. I have a tin rig so accessing difficult places is my thing, however if the competitors put in at a private ramp that was not public, and the area was not accessible due to the lake level, then I would say that it absolutely a problem.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 06:09 PM
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Sounds like area was accessible at the lake level so that is not a rule violation
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 06:49 PM
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I don't have a dog in the fight, but I would think an area of the lake only accessible from private property would be a no go. If you could get in via a culvert that's one thing, but access controlled by a land owner is another. The spot they are talking about is accessible by a culvert that goes under the road. I have not fished it this year with the water being back up to full pool so Im not sure if you can get thru it or not. Normally you can. Its just a tight squeeze! Correct, I don't think every brand of bass boat could fit in that pipe. A smaller one it no problem unless you lower the power poles...
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 07:42 PM
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I don't have a dog in the fight, but I would think an area of the lake only accessible from private property would be a no go. If you could get in via a culvert that's one thing, but access controlled by a land owner is another. The spot they are talking about is accessible by a culvert that goes under the road. I have not fished it this year with the water being back up to full pool so Im not sure if you can get thru it or not. Normally you can. Its just a tight squeeze! Correct, I don't think every brand of bass boat could fit in that pipe. A smaller one it no problem unless you lower the power poles... It was accessible. My buddy was one of the boats that got in there from main lake. Had to take off the motor cowling, console graphs, lower the power poles, and fill both livewells full.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 08:26 PM
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“It was accessible. My buddy was one of the boats that got in there from main lake. Had to take off the motor cowling, console graphs, lower the power poles, and fill both livewells full.â€
Wow was it worth his time????
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Re: Tales from Basschamps On Fork
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02/21/24 10:09 PM
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RedRaider3933
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“It was accessible. My buddy was one of the boats that got in there from main lake. Had to take off the motor cowling, console graphs, lower the power poles, and fill both livewells full.â€
Wow was it worth his time???? I mean that's not that big of a hassle but no. They only caught slots.
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