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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Rangerkev]
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06/19/23 03:47 PM
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Mark Perry
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I think if a guy can drop over $110,000 or more on a boat. He really doesn't care what others think. You buy a boat for yourself. And have it rigged like you want. Most people that slam a really nice truck or boat usually can't afford it. Jealousy brings out the worst in people. I love the set up on this boat. The tackle storage looks awesome. And I don't think a fish bites because a boat is good looking. You may look better coming and going. But did the looks of your boat help you catch more fish. No matter how much I spend I feel that way. I dont buy stuff because someone else likes it or "approves" of it. Ikons are well out of my price range but I like them and hope they sell a bunch. I happy for the guys that can afford one.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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06/19/23 04:02 PM
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Sinkey
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Several of the top brands are already over 100k. Even nitro went up 30 percent. People keep buying they'll keep going up This..... I'd say 2 of the more popular brands in Texas you see right now are Skeeter and Phoenix. Both are well over $100k for a FXR or Elite/PHX. I think the part that alot of guys forget is electronics. You can tear up $15k-$20k in the blink of an eye in graphs and wiring.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Sinkey]
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06/19/23 11:13 PM
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tmd11111
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Several of the top brands are already over 100k. Even nitro went up 30 percent. People keep buying they'll keep going up This..... I'd say 2 of the more popular brands in Texas you see right now are Skeeter and Phoenix. Both are well over $100k for a FXR or Elite/PHX. I think the part that alot of guys forget is electronics. You can tear up $15k-$20k in the blink of an eye in graphs and wiring. Pretty much any new 20-21 footer will be over $100k optioned out
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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06/20/23 02:06 PM
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921ELITE Cranker
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Boat companies produce "X" amount of boats per year. As long as they sell all those boats, they don't care who buys them and at what cost. Until they stop selling, they won't come down. You can see that it is starting to get tougher though because you are seeing current year rebates being offered. BUT...the main people buying boats right now are the people that can write a check for them same day. If you do a 15-20 year boat loan at 8-10%, you need a financial advisor!!
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: 921ELITE Cranker]
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06/20/23 02:12 PM
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wabash2015
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Boat companies produce "X" amount of boats per year. As long as they sell all those boats, they don't care who buys them and at what cost. Until they stop selling, they won't come down. You can see that it is starting to get tougher though because you are seeing current year rebates being offered. BUT...the main people buying boats right now are the people that can write a check for them same day. If you do a 15-20 year boat loan at 8-10%, you need a financial advisor!! I'd be happy to do a 10% loan if the price was $20,000. The PRICES are the insane part, not the interest rates.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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06/21/23 12:37 PM
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ssmith
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that 20k deal is not available an like the indians an the buffalo roaming the plains they are gone for good.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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06/21/23 01:18 PM
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Ken A.
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Not sure if I'd call it a Gamechanger but it is a very nice boat built by a company that has an outstanding record for building $3 to $5mm yachts.
Watch the BTL podcast with Jacob Wheeler. He says the boat is a 63 to 68 mph boat and I believe it. That is on the slower end of the spectrum for 21 foot boats with a 250 but it is a very large wide hull. The boat is actually just 2" shy of 22 feet.
In the podcast Wheeler admits the boat is not a fast hull. That is not what they were going for. It is a high-end flagship boat built by a high-end company. There will be smaller less expensive models coming but they did not want to set a precedence of being just another bass boat brand that builds average boats. They want to be known as the brand that builds the Bentley. He also said they would be introducing other models that weren't as blinged out in the future. I personally appreciate that business model.
A famous historian said, “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.” That is how I conduct business. If you take 5 bids from companies in my industry I will not be low bid. We bring the Best Value in the industry but it ain't cheap.
I know I'll get roasted for this but I have never been a fan of Skeeter. I think paying $84K for a 21 FXR is ludicrous but that's just my opinion after seeing 65% of them going back to the factory for build quality issues. And as Tim & Sinkey pointed out you can get a 21 FXR up over $100K adding electronics.
I've owned 7 new Vettes and two Lambos. Were the Lambos twice as fast? Did they get me from point A to point B any faster than the Vettes? Were the Lambos worth twice as much as a loaded Z06 Vette? To me they were.
Do I think a 21' iKon is "worth" $135K loaded? Maybe.... I'm just saying don't throw stones at something you have never experienced.
Last edited by Ken A.; 06/21/23 01:26 PM.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Rangerkev]
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06/21/23 04:12 PM
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Dubee
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Ken you bring both sides of the table to the dance. and you have not been bought by anyone. Your info on your boat reviews was unbiased. That's why I enjoyed it so much. I highly respect your opinion The main reason is your honesty. Lol Different Ken
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: 921ELITE Cranker]
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06/21/23 04:24 PM
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grandbassslayer
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Boat companies produce "X" amount of boats per year. As long as they sell all those boats, they don't care who buys them and at what cost. Until they stop selling, they won't come down. You can see that it is starting to get tougher though because you are seeing current year rebates being offered. BUT...the main people buying boats right now are the people that can write a check for them same day. If you do a 15-20 year boat loan at 8-10%, you need a financial advisor!! The cost is the cost, they aren’t selling at some inflated multiple because of market demand. If sales crate tomorrow boats won’t be selling for half price unless they are willing to lose money or features are dropped.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Rangerkev]
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06/21/23 04:50 PM
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SC-001
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Ken you bring both sides of the table to the dance. and you have not been bought by anyone. Your info on your boat reviews was unbiased. That's why I enjoyed it so much. I highly respect your opinion The main reason is your honesty. Thats Ken Smith
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Dubee]
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06/21/23 04:57 PM
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Douglas J
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Ken you bring both sides of the table to the dance. and you have not been bought by anyone. Your info on your boat reviews was unbiased. That's why I enjoyed it so much. I highly respect your opinion The main reason is your honesty. Lol Different Ken 
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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06/21/23 05:25 PM
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Sinkey
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Weidas marine posted a video a few weeks back with the measurements of the front deck of the Ikon. Then he just did one yesterday of the measurements of the front deck of the Skeeter FXR. As big as the Ikon looks up front, its only 5" wider up front. Thats barely bigger than the width of my flip flop. So to give up 10+ mph on speed is not worth it to me to fit and extra flip flop up front!
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Sinkey]
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06/21/23 05:54 PM
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wabash2015
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Weidas marine posted a video a few weeks back with the measurements of the front deck of the Ikon. Then he just did one yesterday of the measurements of the front deck of the Skeeter FXR. As big as the Ikon looks up front, its only 5" wider up front. Thats barely bigger than the width of my flip flop. So to give up 10+ mph on speed is not worth it to me to fit and extra flip flop up front! Wow. Not only that, but the Ikons look ugly as sin AND cost an extra $40k over the FXR. A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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06/22/23 02:45 PM
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Tyler Kalishek
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What is the 21’ Ikon rated for? There’s plenty of Jaguars out with 350-450hp. I mean obviously Ikon was going for more of the “luxury” market. Maybe someone could throw a 450 on one and [censored] 70 lol
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Re: Pro's running Ikon boat?
[Re: Tyler Kalishek]
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06/22/23 04:39 PM
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Happykamper
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What is the 21’ Ikon rated for? There’s plenty of Jaguars out with 350-450hp. I mean obviously Ikon was going for more of the “luxury” market. Maybe someone could throw a 450 on one and [censored] 70 lol Then it would be a 170K dollar boat. 
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