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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: Skeeter4x4]
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03/13/23 08:18 PM
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AdvTX
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If I wanted to have it I'd have it. I don't want to give in and be looking down at my screen and LOOSE the REAL feeling the thrill of not know exactly when a fish bites or how big is it going to be. I love the adrenaline of a bite when it just comes all of the sudden. No way I'd give that up. This! I've seen it and done it in another boat and it's nothing like the unknown bite, It completely takes away the....I knew it...I feel it....it's no longer a sport.
The day after catching a lot of fish is still a good day.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: AdvTX]
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03/13/23 08:20 PM
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grout-scout
TFF Guru
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If I wanted to have it I'd have it. I don't want to give in and be looking down at my screen and LOOSE the REAL feeling the thrill of not know exactly when a fish bites or how big is it going to be. I love the adrenaline of a bite when it just comes all of the sudden. No way I'd give that up. This! I've seen it and done it in another boat and it's nothing like the unknown bite, It completely takes away the....I knew it...I feel it....it's no longer a sport. Cool stories, Bros….
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: AdvTX]
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03/13/23 08:21 PM
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Mark Perry
Super Freak
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If I wanted to have it I'd have it. I don't want to give in and be looking down at my screen and LOOSE the REAL feeling the thrill of not know exactly when a fish bites or how big is it going to be. I love the adrenaline of a bite when it just comes all of the sudden. No way I'd give that up. This! I've seen it and done it in another boat and it's nothing like the unknown bite, It completely takes away the....I knew it...I feel it....it's no longer a sport. Someone else using it should not affect your own personal enjoyment one little bitm if you focus on fishing how you like to fish then you should still be out enjoying it.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: formula462]
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03/13/23 09:45 PM
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B.K.S.
Extreme Angler
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Enjoy this for what it is, an opinion. I don't have one, could if I wanted too though. I decided the Mega 360 would fit me better and that's what my darling wife bought for my birthday. As a bank beater I enjoy most of the FFS'rs fishing offshore chasing big fish, leaves my spots less crowded, just not at Ivie, LOL. I believe the bass will adapt to whatever sound this makes and getting harassed in places they had to themselves before and they will adjust accordingly and in a couple of years we'll be talking about where all the big fish went, until the next game changer comes along. Mi Dos Centavos.
B.K.S.
Team Seale Custom Baits
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: manoduk]
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03/13/23 11:41 PM
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ezbassin
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I am a 74 yrs. OLD man. Have been fishing for as long as i can remember. I'm sure i have placed several hundred Tops in lakes for crappie. (no longer do it because lazy people take advantage of someone else work, seems to be the NEW NORM. no secrets any longer). Anyway, i remember when to find my Tops I had to Aline my boat to landmarks on the bank or trees on the lake. No sonar just a man's experience, work and knowledge. We caught a lot of fish. i know people who catch crappie today who before Live Scope couldn't catch one if it bit him on the butt. WE all know those people. Right? Now to the point. I'm not a Fish Biologist. Sometimes common sense and hands on experience is better than book knowledge. Just sayin! i found it interesting that WLF came out shortly after the units appeared. on the scene and assured us, NO PROBLEM. How would they know that quick? Could it be Money, Politics, influence from Lobbyist? I can attest.to this fact, i am not catching the quality fish that i was accustomed to most of my life. Remember, people that never caught fish Pre-Live Scope don't have a history by which to compare. i can understand why certain folks love the Scope. It makes the guides job much easier and ability to book more trips per day. The guy who never caught a fish before now can brag about how great a Crappie Fisherman he is, and the vendors are making a fortune. Great for crappie tournament guys. Not saying these are bad just facts. I agree that crappie are prolific but when the catch improves 10-fold then common sense would tell us it has an effect. No doubt the quality of the fish caught has gone down. to me, quality is the biggest concern. The Live Scope is here to stay and the future will amaze us. Today's units will be obsolete in the near future. WLF should reconsider the limits (per boat) impose slot limits and stop the culling. A few months ago i notice fish floating by me then an another and another. i then noticed that guys in boat next to me was culling fish from an ice chest. Think about that! Before yll beat me up, I once said that i would never buy the "Cheatin Machine", What i learned was never say never. See, I'm one of you, but I'm smart enough to see what the negative effects will be as these FF advance. Will it make much difference in my fishing life? At 74 probably not but it will my boys and grandsons. Apologies for the long diatribe. A positive is that a lot of once BASS FISHERMEN ARE DIE HARD CRAPPIE GUYS. Good to live in country wherein I can express my opinion. I may not be right, but I think I am otherwise i wouldn't express it.  And I guess if you chose to ride a bicycle it would be a single speed instead of a more advanced 10 speed bike....Right??? I was wondering, do you still drive a Model A??? or do you drive something more advanced?
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: AdvTX]
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03/14/23 12:16 AM
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WAWI
TFF Guru
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If I wanted to have it I'd have it. I don't want to give in and be looking down at my screen and LOOSE the REAL feeling the thrill of not know exactly when a fish bites or how big is it going to be. I love the adrenaline of a bite when it just comes all of the sudden. No way I'd give that up. This! I've seen it and done it in another boat and it's nothing like the unknown bite, It completely takes away the....I knew it...I feel it....it's no longer a sport. What it minimizes is fishing fishless water the other 8 hours after you caught a fish beating the bank.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: WAWI]
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03/14/23 12:25 AM
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Harleydude
Pro Angler
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Pro Angler
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If I wanted to have it I'd have it. I don't want to give in and be looking down at my screen and LOOSE the REAL feeling the thrill of not know exactly when a fish bites or how big is it going to be. I love the adrenaline of a bite when it just comes all of the sudden. No way I'd give that up. This! I've seen it and done it in another boat and it's nothing like the unknown bite, It completely takes away the....I knew it...I feel it....it's no longer a sport. What it minimizes is fishing fishless water the other 8 hours after you caught a fish beating the bank. But that cuts into the beer drinking too!
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: B.K.S.]
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03/14/23 12:31 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Enjoy this for what it is, an opinion. I don't have one, could if I wanted too though. I decided the Mega 360 would fit me better and that's what my darling wife bought for my birthday. As a bank beater I enjoy most of the FFS'rs fishing offshore chasing big fish, leaves my spots less crowded, just not at Ivie, LOL. I believe the bass will adapt to whatever sound this makes and getting harassed in places they had to themselves before and they will adjust accordingly and in a couple of years we'll be talking about where all the big fish went, until the next game changer comes along. Mi Dos Centavos. This I totally agree with.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: formula462]
#14659378
03/14/23 12:32 AM
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Posts: 1,139
KnotTexan
Extreme Angler
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Extreme Angler
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I know my body appreciates FFS and the 2000 less casts I make in a day of fishing. 
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: formula462]
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03/14/23 02:46 AM
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formula462
OP
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OP
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When one comes along that makes it look like you're staring into a fish tank and absolutely anyone can use it without having to tune and decipher then the live scope crowd would have a problem with that.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: formula462]
#14659516
03/14/23 02:58 AM
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grout-scout
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When one comes along that makes it look like you're staring into a fish tank and absolutely anyone can use it without having to tune and decipher then the live scope crowd would have a problem with that. Get back to us when that day comes.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
#14660388
03/14/23 11:03 PM
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Posts: 1,868
Dr JL
Extreme Angler
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Enjoy this for what it is, an opinion. I don't have one, could if I wanted too though. I decided the Mega 360 would fit me better and that's what my darling wife bought for my birthday. As a bank beater I enjoy most of the FFS'rs fishing offshore chasing big fish, leaves my spots less crowded, just not at Ivie, LOL. I believe the bass will adapt to whatever sound this makes and getting harassed in places they had to themselves before and they will adjust accordingly and in a couple of years we'll be talking about where all the big fish went, until the next game changer comes along. Mi Dos Centavos. This I totally agree with. That makes sense to me.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: Dr JL]
#14660616
03/15/23 02:38 AM
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Ken A.
Groovy
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Groovy
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Enjoy this for what it is, an opinion. I don't have one, could if I wanted too though. I decided the Mega 360 would fit me better and that's what my darling wife bought for my birthday. As a bank beater I enjoy most of the FFS'rs fishing offshore chasing big fish, leaves my spots less crowded, just not at Ivie, LOL. I believe the bass will adapt to whatever sound this makes and getting harassed in places they had to themselves before and they will adjust accordingly and in a couple of years we'll be talking about where all the big fish went, until the next game changer comes along. Mi Dos Centavos. This I totally agree with. That makes sense to me. Agreed. The guys that are really good with FFS are already seeing this happen. When it first went off at Ivie during the blizzard of 2021 tehy were catching 1:10 fish they saw. Now it is 1:100 that will commit.
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: formula462]
#14660937
03/15/23 02:34 PM
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Posts: 51
Blake9
Outdoorsman
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Outdoorsman
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The people stating that livescope makes fishing too easy have never used a livescope
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Re: Livescope thoughts
[Re: Blake9]
#14660946
03/15/23 02:39 PM
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wh2004
TFF Team Angler
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TFF Team Angler
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The people stating that livescope makes fishing too easy have never used a livescope The people that say that don’t even know how to use their iPhones.
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