My SonIL has a tundra Hybrid together with the turbo V6 it does well on gas mileage.

The Toyota is cheaper to buy and holds value a lot better. New ones are 3.5 twin turbo v6 just like ford- except better.

Ya’ll concerned about gas mileage towing a boat?? I’ve had 2 Ecoboost and the 5.0 V8. I like d the sound of my V8 but the responsiveness of my Eco is unmistakeable. The 10 speed tranny is pretty awesome too. Shifts through all 10 without a blip.

The tundra is a new design. Not sure about bugs in it. I have 3 Toyotas now so I am not an anti-Toy guy.

After owning a car dealership, I can say we have had much more issues with the 3.5 over the 5.0. Across the gas engines of 5.0, 5.3, 3.5, 6.2 and 5.7, the GM 5.3 seems to have the least issues for us from a large sample.

The new 5.3s are garbage though. We have a fleet of 30 of them, over half have had valvetrain issues by 50k miles requiring significant downtime.

Thats why they went to to thinner oil trying to bathe those valve. You can hear them ticking.

I talked to a mechanic that told me the thinner oil ran through the engine helping to dissipate the heat which lessened wear and was needed also because of the tighter tolerances in modern engines.

+1, just because a truck can tow 14,000 does not mean you should. Some people just look at the tow rating and not payload. If I was going to tow 7500 lbs or more I would go with a 3/4 or 1 ton. The other thing to consider is the type of trailer and wind resistance. My FIL had a pontoon boat and that thing was like towing a sail.

3.5L Ecobeast hands down for me...before I bought my 2016 Eco I test drove all flavors of the F150. The power / torque these little turbo engines have is amazing. I have a 2016 w/ 85K miles on it. I do the regular maintenance from the dealer, tow my boat weekly, used it pull a 25' travel trailer until we sold it, and pull around our utility trailer with 2K loads every spring during our property clean up.

My average gas mileage is: 15.6
When I tow: 13-14 depending on speed

I have a 2.5" lift, 22" wheels, 33" tires.

It doesn't search for gears unless I'm pushing it hard on speed going uphill. If I keep it around 55-60 it will cruise up hill no issues.

2022 F-150 Powerboost 3.5L Hybrid, 435 hp, 575 lbs-ft. 4x4 for me. Power and fuel economy all rolled into 1. I have only towed my Tracker bass boat but it pulled it around like it wasn't even there.

how much do they want for a new Ford with the 3.5 eco?

Two arms and one leg.

Insider secret. Every single truck is unique. It's the options added or deleted. Trim level. Custom, XL, XLT, Platinum.


The reason is so you can't compare an apple to an apple.


The truck you want has the price listed on the window. It's the price you'll pay if you want it. With you being welcomed to order a custom option package. Again, the price will depend on what you want.


Just know, the dealer is the casino and the house always wins.

2023’s with crew cab / XLT trim appear to be MSRP $60K - $64K