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 Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/02/22 02:24 PM
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Ken A.
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Palomar and run your tag through the eye of the hook is a lot simpler. This a weekend warrior who is an engineer kind of over thinking a simple thing type of deal  Well you nailed me right there. I am a retired Engineer but a weekday warrior thankfully. In have a real hard time doubling the line and pushing it through a hook eye. I tie a uni knot all other applications and don't suffer from knot failures. I could run the line through and double back again, and have done that many times, but the uni works for me and is easier and I like easier. I tried the knot im asking about and I myself can tie it much easier, so if I were to get confirmation from others that it works well without failures , well....that would be a good thing for me.  You don't need to reinvent the wheel. When I was a kid fishing off the bank I used this same rig to fish for catfish & carp. Don't double the line and try to push it thru the tiny hook eye. Go thru the eye and pull about 18" of line thru. Now push the line back thru the eye the other direction. You have now effectively doubled the line thru the hookeye. Tie the palomar knot and go fishing. We have complicated the dropshot rig to include braid to fluoro leader knots, special hooks, special weights, technique specific rods & reels, etc. Its a bottom fishing catfish rig. Pure & simple.
Last edited by Ken A.; 05/02/22 02:24 PM.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: Ken A.]
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05/02/22 03:03 PM
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David Burton
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Palomar and run your tag through the eye of the hook is a lot simpler. This a weekend warrior who is an engineer kind of over thinking a simple thing type of deal Well you nailed me right there. I am a retired Engineer but a weekday warrior thankfully. In have a real hard time doubling the line and pushing it through a hook eye. I tie a uni knot all other applications and don't suffer from knot failures. I could run the line through and double back again, and have done that many times, but the uni works for me and is easier and I like easier. I tried the knot im asking about and I myself can tie it much easier, so if I were to get confirmation from others that it works well without failures , well....that would be a good thing for me. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. When I was a kid fishing off the bank I used this same rig to fish for catfish & carp. Don't double the line and try to push it thru the tiny hook eye. Go thru the eye and pull about 18" of line thru. Now push the line back thru the eye the other direction. You have now effectively doubled the line thru the hookeye. Tie the palomar knot and go fishing. We have complicated the dropshot rig to include braid to fluoro leader knots, special hooks, special weights, technique specific rods & reels, etc. Its a bottom fishing catfish rig. Pure & simple. Yep, simple technique that is definitely not as new as the fad. We used it for minnow fishing below the dam at Whitney for Sandies in the discharge current when I was a kid! Mind you, I probably used a snap swivel and snell hook, as I wasn't into all the equipment changes from bank fishing until I started really bass fishing about 15 years ago!
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/02/22 03:42 PM
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Chis D
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Yes. I use it and it works great. Hooks stay upward facing, easy to predict the tag line length and I rarely have a break at the hook. I use a palmor on pretty much everything and have used palmor for DS in the past, but this has become my norm. I don't know if one is better or worse, but it works fine for me.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
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05/02/22 11:15 PM
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ezbassin
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I’ve seen that video before and have been meaning to try it. I use a palmor knot and just pull the tag end back through the eye. Been working so why change When I pull the tag end back through the eyelet I pull on it until the knot goes through the eyelet and that makes sure the hook sits straight out. That is just how I do it.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: Ken A.]
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05/02/22 11:39 PM
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ReelSlow
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Palomar and run your tag through the eye of the hook is a lot simpler. This a weekend warrior who is an engineer kind of over thinking a simple thing type of deal Well you nailed me right there. I am a retired Engineer but a weekday warrior thankfully. In have a real hard time doubling the line and pushing it through a hook eye. I tie a uni knot all other applications and don't suffer from knot failures. I could run the line through and double back again, and have done that many times, but the uni works for me and is easier and I like easier. I tried the knot im asking about and I myself can tie it much easier, so if I were to get confirmation from others that it works well without failures , well....that would be a good thing for me. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. When I was a kid fishing off the bank I used this same rig to fish for catfish & carp. Don't double the line and try to push it thru the tiny hook eye. Go thru the eye and pull about 18" of line thru. Now push the line back thru the eye the other direction. You have now effectively doubled the line thru the hookeye. Tie the palomar knot and go fishing. We have complicated the dropshot rig to include braid to fluoro leader knots, special hooks, special weights, technique specific rods & reels, etc. Its a bottom fishing catfish rig. Pure & simple. Ken, it is obvious to me that you are a heck of an Angler, so tell me, do you use a leader ? Straight braid? Straight floro? Thanks
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
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05/02/22 11:41 PM
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ReelSlow
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It is actually very easy to tie IMO
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: Chis D]
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05/02/22 11:42 PM
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ReelSlow
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Yes. I use it and it works great. Hooks stay upward facing, easy to predict the tag line length and I rarely have a break at the hook. I use a palmor on pretty much everything and have used palmor for DS in the past, but this has become my norm. I don't know if one is better or worse, but it works fine for me. Good to hear, exactly what my OP was asking, thank you
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/03/22 01:31 AM
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ezbassin
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It is actually very easy to tie IMO I thought it looked pretty easy to tie also, not like it is complicated at all.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/03/22 01:53 AM
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Ken A.
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Palomar and run your tag through the eye of the hook is a lot simpler. This a weekend warrior who is an engineer kind of over thinking a simple thing type of deal Well you nailed me right there. I am a retired Engineer but a weekday warrior thankfully. In have a real hard time doubling the line and pushing it through a hook eye. I tie a uni knot all other applications and don't suffer from knot failures. I could run the line through and double back again, and have done that many times, but the uni works for me and is easier and I like easier. I tried the knot im asking about and I myself can tie it much easier, so if I were to get confirmation from others that it works well without failures , well....that would be a good thing for me. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. When I was a kid fishing off the bank I used this same rig to fish for catfish & carp. Don't double the line and try to push it thru the tiny hook eye. Go thru the eye and pull about 18" of line thru. Now push the line back thru the eye the other direction. You have now effectively doubled the line thru the hookeye. Tie the palomar knot and go fishing. We have complicated the dropshot rig to include braid to fluoro leader knots, special hooks, special weights, technique specific rods & reels, etc. Its a bottom fishing catfish rig. Pure & simple. Ken, it is obvious to me that you are a heck of an Angler, so tell me, do you use a leader ? Straight braid? Straight floro? Thanks The last time I drop shotted was about a month ago. It was with 50# braid all the way to the 5/0 Jungle flipping hook and 3/4 oz bass casting sinker with a 10" Jawtec Sultan worm. I didn't catch any giants that day but I did get a 10.17 on it. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/05/full-19947-137849-screen_shot_2022_05_02_at_8.52.37_pm.png) ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/05/full-19947-137850-screen_shot_2022_05_02_at_8.52.09_pm.png)
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/03/22 10:17 AM
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tmd11111
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A 10.7 isn't considered a giant? 
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: ReelSlow]
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05/03/22 11:53 AM
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ReelSlow
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That's not what she said.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: tmd11111]
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05/03/22 12:23 PM
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Ken A.
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A 10.7 isn't considered a giant? It was just my attempt at sarcastic humor.  Any Legit DD is a giant! I was just trying to say to the OP that he is overthinking the whole dropshot thing. I use the same rig for drop shotting that I use for catfish, carp, and crappie. He needs to stop thinking about it and go fishing.
Last edited by Ken A.; 05/03/22 12:26 PM.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: Ken A.]
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05/03/22 12:57 PM
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tmd11111
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A 10.7 isn't considered a giant? It was just my attempt at sarcastic humor. Any Legit DD is a giant! I was just trying to say to the OP that he is overthinking the whole dropshot thing. I use the same rig for drop shotting that I use for catfish, carp, and crappie. He needs to stop thinking about it and go fishing. Figured it was sarcasm but after catching teeners with Wendall who knows.
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Re: Drop Shot hook tie
[Re: tmd11111]
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05/03/22 01:16 PM
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Ken A.
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A 10.7 isn't considered a giant? It was just my attempt at sarcastic humor. Any Legit DD is a giant! I was just trying to say to the OP that he is overthinking the whole dropshot thing. I use the same rig for drop shotting that I use for catfish, carp, and crappie. He needs to stop thinking about it and go fishing. Figured it was sarcasm but after catching teeners with Wendall who knows. Wasn't a teener  After we sat and watched the fish for 45 mins I told Wendell what she weighed before I got her in the boat. I missed her by 2 oz.
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