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 Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Allison1]
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03/05/22 05:01 PM
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Funny that you mention quid pro quo. Remember the phone call? One person did it and was elected president after it was found out. The other was impeached and then lost the next election after it was found out. One was impeached by fraudulent claims of quid pro quo, and impeachment(s) failed accordingly. False Russian collusion. 4 years of taxpayer money wasted on the efforts. Imagine the salaries and other costs of that team of shifty shiff and humpty dumpty who lied under oath. Tsk, tsk, tsk. One committed actual quid pro quo, by definition, on tape as hard evidence, and was never held to task. Yet goes on to fraudulently win an election and implanted in the Oval office. Now, open your wallet and enjoy the highest inflation since Jimmah Cahtuh.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
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03/05/22 06:07 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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03/05/22 06:14 PM
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in. So we won't go to war over ukraine but Latvia we would? I dont believe this and I think he is gonna test the concept. I think he will give NATO the middle finger and dare them. I suspect he will win the game of chicken.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
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03/05/22 06:16 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in. So we won't go to war over ukraine but Latvia we would? I dont believe this and I think he is gonna test the concept. I think he will give NATO the middle finger and dare them. I suspect he will win the game of chicken. Ukraine isn't in NATO. Article 5 of NATO states that an attack on one is an attack on all. We don't have a treaty or alliance obligation to Ukraine, but we do with every NATO member.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/05/22 06:25 PM
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I completely understand that. I think Putin wants to break NATO back and will test article 5.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
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03/05/22 06:47 PM
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I don't want the US to go to war with Russia Putin. He's unstable, and war with him could easily escalate into armageddon.
But, everyone should realize that he won't stop after he beats down Ukraine. Possibly Moldova (once part of the USSR that Putin wants to rebuild) and Belarus (also a form USSR state and current military buddy of Russia) would be next because of their former ties to Putin's country. Then he will go for Poland, Finland, Sweden, Austria, Serbia, etc. At that point Europe will be forced, by NATO agreements, to fight him and we will get pulled in as well.
Somebody is going to have to stand up and punch this bully in the mouth. Right now, that should be the European countries. But sooner or later we will be forced to get in the fight. m Bully’s don’t have nuclear weapons . So bold talk gets us nowhere it’s more of a civil war we should stay out of it. There is no need for our sons to die for a problem created by joe Biden and his like. Also the Republican hawks should shut up as well did we not learn anything in Afghanistan? J. D
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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03/05/22 06:51 PM
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basscaster46
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in. Most Americans are not gonna support war with Russia. Remember Afghanistan?
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/05/22 07:03 PM
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According to the Russian invasion maps posted on Google Moldova will be next.
Not part of NATO and just like Ukraine.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: basscaster46]
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03/05/22 07:04 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in. Most Americans are not gonna support war with Russia. Remember Afghanistan? Really? 74% of Americans polled in a recent poll support the USA doing a No Fly Zone, which would put us in the war with Russia.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Allison1]
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03/05/22 07:05 PM
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Starve him out and turn the people against him.
They can see what is happening. They just need incentive.
Putin is cutting off social media in Russia in an attempt to keep it from them but its not like it was 40 years ago.
The more he tries the worse it gets for him if we stay with the sanctions. The more the better.
totally agree , turn his own people against him . The Oligarchs are losing money big time and to a degree they own Putin . Besides , there are some really good video's being posted today of Russian jets and helicopters being shot out of the sky . One of them is a pilot that appears in a photo opp during the Syrian operations with Putin and Assad .
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: basscaster46]
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03/05/22 07:08 PM
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hopalong
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I think the test is gonna be which one is next. Ukraine is a done deal, just depends on time frame. Will he test a country like Hungary, or another nato member that's a former member of USSR and how far is the NATO alliance prepared to back pedal to avoid ww3?. He is gonna test the lines in the sand for sure. Per what he has said, he want's to go into and occupy every country to "protect" Russian speaking people. Plus if you have ever played RISK the next invasions are clear. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. That would give him a complete Russian front that is easier to deploy forces. All 3 are NATO countries with Russian speaking populations, so that would start WW3 with NATO's Article 5 kicking in. Most Americans are not gonna support war with Russia. Remember Afghanistan? with putin in charge a war with russia would last about an hr. then nothing matters any more. I don't doubt for a second that putin would use nukes, dude is off his meds and does not care about anything or anyone beyond himself right now, as far as he is concerned he is living the dream. we are both in a heightened state of readiness, all it takes on either side now is authorization.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/05/22 07:12 PM
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Just proves one man can change the World. And the rest of us suffers.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
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03/06/22 03:26 AM
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If he does all NATO countries will join the fight and whip his azz
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/06/22 03:43 AM
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Anyone ever here of an emp? Russia needs 3 bombs to turn out all our lights. We arent holding the cards to go to war with Russia and there isnt even a good reason.
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Re: No fly in Ukraine?
[Re: Spiderman]
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03/06/22 11:24 AM
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All we need now is a Colin Powell to convince us Russia has WMDs and we have to fight them there so we don't have to fight them here.. We'll be all in for WWIII. War drums are beating and a majority are dancing to the beat...just a matter of time and the right news story.
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