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 Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/11/21 06:46 PM
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There is no correct answer. Remember this is California, all answer are equal.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/11/21 06:50 PM
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You could have told me 10 years ago this bizarro stuff was gonna happen and I'd have told you that you were crazy.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae -- "Not for self, but for country."
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/11/21 06:52 PM
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Well, there's always goats and sheep to keep the grass under control... Dan
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 12:51 AM
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It’s only zero emission at the motor and in the city, there is probably more CO2 being expelled into the atmosphere by the power plant because electricity is an extremely inefficient form of energy. There is no such thing as zero emission, but good luck convincing these folks of that. Regardless of the form of power, it’s never zero emission, at least not if you consider production and transportation. I’m not saying I agree with the policy mentioned in the OP, but I can’t let the statement that electricity is extremely inefficient stand without calling it out. That is not accurate. It’s thermodynamics, there is no free lunch. When you burn hydrocarbons in order to develop electricity you lose energy when you have to transfer it to wherever it’s going to be used. Thermodynamically it is not efficient.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/12/21 01:24 AM
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So, here's a conundrum:
Lose electric power for whatever reason (weather, fire, earthquake) and the private individual won't be able to generate their power with a gasoline powered generator.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it !
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/12/21 01:25 AM
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Meanwhile the carbon exhaust from a billion Chinese and their growing industry is carried around the world.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it !
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 12:46 PM
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Ban lawnmowers and allow ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2021/10/full-47849-114102-download.jpg) To put up with the craziness that goes on out there supports the certainty that the majority of people in that state are not of sound mind.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 12:54 PM
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I'm curious about commercial lawn services. Are they going to have to go electric too? They'd have to have 50 batteries to mow a day's worth of lawns. The state government in Cali doesn't care about these folks because they have jobs and actually WORK. If they are unemployed and/or homeless then they would be concerned about them.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/12/21 04:42 PM
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By the time the lithium is mined for those batteries, hydrocarbons are burned for the fuel, and then the plastic is made to develop those stupid electric lawnmowers, I bet the carbon footprint and environmental detriment is worst for electric/battery powered small motors than a gas one.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 05:22 PM
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So no backup gas generators for safety for you know, when the power goes out?
There are no fish in sonic pond EDIT: Except 1 20lb catfish
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 05:38 PM
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I wonder where this non-carbon electricity is going to come from to power these replacement units? Ammonia fueled gas turbine power. The Japanese are already doing it. Direct combustion of ammonia in a gas turbine and ammonia burns without emitting carbon dioxide, JERA has already announced they will close all of their coal fired plants by 2030 and replace them with hybrid LNG and ammonia fired power. By 2050 the LNG will be completely phased out. Zero emissions. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.powermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ammoniastrategy_greenammoniaconsortium_2020-1024x455.jpg)
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 09:12 PM
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Mckinneycrappiecatcher
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I wonder where this non-carbon electricity is going to come from to power these replacement units? Ammonia fueled gas turbine power. The Japanese are already doing it. Direct combustion of ammonia in a gas turbine and ammonia burns without emitting carbon dioxide, JERA has already announced they will close all of their coal fired plants by 2030 and replace them with hybrid LNG and ammonia fired power. By 2050 the LNG will be completely phased out. Zero emissions. A byproduct of this combustion reaction is NO, which is not necessarily the best thing to have in the atmosphere. Pick your poison.
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
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10/12/21 09:29 PM
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p.s., Once again, I say: Molten salt thorium nuclear reactors, thousands of them
Can they scale it to run a weed eater or outboard motor? Works great as a outboard.... just drive over your brush pile marking the fish , then turn around and grab them as they float up to the surface. If you drive over them twice, they float up already cooked
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Re: Coming to a lawn near Austin
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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10/12/21 09:36 PM
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I will ask again…can you continue to use gas fired items thru their lifespan. The article seems to point to new sales.
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