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 Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Coach Hark]
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04/19/21 06:44 PM
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Sawhorse
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Defense attorney is presenting A LOT of reasonable doubt information to the jury in closing argument. I would make a horrible jurist, I’m probably not smart enough to digest everything. There’s just something about that phrase “lethal levels of fentanyl” (based on the tox report) that feels like reasonable doubt to me. Maybe it’s just the part about knowing he’d ingested fentanyl and knowing what that can do...or maybe it’s the phrase “lethal levels”? I don’t know.
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Re: George Floyd trial
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04/19/21 06:47 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. The hypoxia would occur because the brain isn't getting enough oxygen via the blood. But what seals the case for me was the Chauvin was on maintained his position for minutes after Floyd was non-responsive and had no pulse. A person in custody shall be rendered first aid in that state, not continue to be restrained.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Sawhorse]
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04/19/21 06:47 PM
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Defense attorney is presenting A LOT of reasonable doubt information to the jury in closing argument. I would make a horrible jurist, I’m probably not smart enough to digest everything. There’s just something about that phrase “lethal levels of fentanyl” (based on the tox report) that feels like reasonable doubt to me. Maybe it’s just the part about knowing he’d ingested fentanyl and knowing what that can do...or maybe it’s the phrase “lethal levels”? I don’t know. The word “of” gives me reasonable doubt.
Team wolfs I had to perform. It took a minute to get it all in my mouth and another five to swallow it all.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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04/19/21 06:50 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. reasonable doubt.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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04/19/21 06:51 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. reasonable doubt. Knee on neck for 4 minutes after non-responsive and no pulse - Murder
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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04/19/21 06:52 PM
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Jons3825
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. The hypoxia would occur because the brain isn't getting enough oxygen via the blood. But what seals the case for me was the Chauvin was on maintained his position for minutes after Floyd was non-responsive and had no pulse. A person in custody shall be rendered first aid in that state, not continue to be restrained. Other than it being proven, shown, and admitted to by "expert witnesses" the knee was not on the neck, it was not constricted, and at what point did he loose pulse? Can you show your medical degree showing your certified to make this prognosis via camera however many hundreds of miles away form the patient being examined? You know... just for arguments sake.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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04/19/21 06:54 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. reasonable doubt. Knee on neck for 4 minutes after non-responsive and no pulse - Murder speculation.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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04/19/21 06:56 PM
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Jons3825
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[quote=Bigbob_FTW
speculation. [/quote]
No... completely disproven by states experts witnesses, and alternate views from the others officers.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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04/19/21 06:57 PM
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Jons3825
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Emit... I think the atty heard ya and is speaking directly to you. "You can not take a single frame of the video and make a broad speculation"
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: elcoyote, esq.]
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04/19/21 06:58 PM
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Sawhorse
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Defense attorney is presenting A LOT of reasonable doubt information to the jury in closing argument. I would make a horrible jurist, I’m probably not smart enough to digest everything. There’s just something about that phrase “lethal levels of fentanyl” (based on the tox report) that feels like reasonable doubt to me. Maybe it’s just the part about knowing he’d ingested fentanyl and knowing what that can do...or maybe it’s the phrase “lethal levels”? I don’t know. The word “of” gives me reasonable doubt. I completely over-looked that word. You’d be a terrific jurist...probably foreman.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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04/19/21 07:07 PM
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txmasterpo
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. reasonable doubt. Knee on neck for 4 minutes after non-responsive and no pulse - Murder Even if he died from natural causes? That's maybe ....MAYBE failed to render aid
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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04/19/21 10:04 PM
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Kicker16
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Jury in deliberations now. Guess it's a matter of time before the rest of Minneapolis goes up in flames
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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04/19/21 10:08 PM
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stuntmandave
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Will Maxine's comments cause mistrial?
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: Jons3825]
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04/19/21 10:10 PM
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Allison1
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not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.
The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. The hypoxia would occur because the brain isn't getting enough oxygen via the blood. But what seals the case for me was the Chauvin was on maintained his position for minutes after Floyd was non-responsive and had no pulse. A person in custody shall be rendered first aid in that state, not continue to be restrained. Other than it being proven, shown, and admitted to by "expert witnesses" the knee was not on the neck, it was not constricted, and at what point did he loose pulse? Can you show your medical degree showing your certified to make this prognosis via camera however many hundreds of miles away form the patient being examined? You know... just for arguments sake. Supposedly, THE expert on the respiratory system said as much. He wrote a book that is acknowledged as being the bible on the subject to some of the physiological experts. Add that to the coroners report and you just don't have a way out unless you ignore some of the evidence. Juries do ignore the facts sometimes and you are never sure what they will do.
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Re: George Floyd trial
[Re: stuntmandave]
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04/19/21 10:13 PM
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Will Maxine's comments cause mistrial? Judge denied it. I hope some type of accountability is handed out to that nasty woman.
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