George Floyd trial

How does it end?

here's a good rundown of the trial so far...

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...e_status_of_the_derek_chauvin_trial.html

George Floyd trial???

Town is going to burn no matter what the verdict is.

Not sure I could send a LEO to prison knowing this thug had all them drugs in him.

Yup..

How the he77 is the George Floyd trial? I thought it was Derek Chauvin that was being railroaded.

With a riot!

When do they deliver the verdict? Haven't watch any national news in the last several weeks.

still on the prosecution.

Chauvin will burn for the safety of the city. Not guilty is not an option for the current agenda. Not guilty will create riots all over the country and everyone knows that.

You know the jury names will be leaked, poor folks didn't sign up for that.

they already caught someone taking a picture of them.

Yes, it's Chauvin because of the death of St. George

Pulmonologist testified today that fentanyl did not kill Floyd. The kneeling did.

I'm sure the defense can find a pulmonologist that will say it was the Fentanyl. Both teams have their well paid "experts".

Agreed.

No matter what the jury says, businesses are going to burn.

About the only time I like living in a small town.

They (the woke mob) want blood, and they will get it.

It is not going well for the DA, They have provided reasonable doubt before the defense even starts.

Would agree. The defense is very good.

This doctor they have on testifying to the prosecution is too happy go lucky, he's trying to make a name. I hope the defense lights him up....

The medical trainer lady went so poorly the defense is going ot call her as their witness. I just hope the defense does not try to go too hard and muddy the already clear water of reasonable doubt.

He's picking apart the guy now....

I haven't watched much of it but did see the pulmonary specialist and thought he was pretty good. Defense placed some doubt but the prosecutor came back and nailed it. Will be interesting to see what the defense team come up with for witnesses.

This Dr has a weird smile when the DA is asking questions. But he already spelled out lots of doubt.

Yea, he just screwed up his happy go lucky convo with the DA

Also, he may have lost credibility with that wishful combover. No animal in nature does that, it’s strictly (and strangely) a white man go-to...very odd phenomenon.

It ends with new air jordans, flat screen TVs, and cartons of Kools all for free. You know you gotta honor St George the proper way.

Defense is grasping for straws. He's going to jail.

I’m sure the stock piles of bricks are being delivered and shopping list are being made. It won’t matter if justice is done or if he is sent to prison, the cities will burn. It’s what they want.

PLEASE go celebrate with your hero’s when verdict comes out, live blog it for us to enjoy.

The loyola activist, I mean Doc has this issue coming....

But Tobin said he analyzed Floyd’s respiration as seen on body-camera video and explained that while fentanyl typically cuts the rate of respiration by 40%, Floyd’s breathing was "right around normal" just before he lost consciousness. Similarly, he said people with severe heart disease have very high respiratory rates.

These are facts already in evidence and he says they're false

The defense has been very strong.

Dont be surprised at the lack of rioting if hung jury or not guilty, trump is out of office-just sayin'

Orange man bad!

Hung Jury. Very slim chance for a guilty third degree murder charge.

By the letter of the law there is no causation, and it’s quite something the chief and other officers have said the video from the body cam shows shoulder and back avoiding the neck. Or that he was justified to used higher levels of force... Ben Shipero went in depth today on it.

That was a good show.

That's an everyday way of life for many. 9min 50seconds on someone's neck that is not resisting at all and is only crying for his mom? Really? There's no way that meth or fentanyl in his system could have contributed to his death in any manner. Floyd died from low levels of oxygen. Chauvin is headed for the big house...

Except for the fact he wasnt on his neck, and had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system and wasn't calling his mom. Facts matter.

Exactly. Also read that Chauvin is 5'9" and weighs 140lbs. Floyd on the other hand was 6'-6" and probably around 250lbs.

I assume you have a copy of the autopsy to make these false comments. Okie would you please post the autopsy online here so we all could see it to know that his oxygen levels were low, since the first autopsy said the opposite of you.

We'll see who is right. Just like Trump being re-elected....

Trump would have easily got re-elected if this country was not corrupt. Trump exposed a lot of the Washington Corrupt Establishment during his time in office. Big Tech, Corrupt Politicians, China, along with the main stream media propaganda machine, saw to it that Trump would not be re-elected. I just hoped there could have been something done about it. Wait till the main storm hits.

Is that you, Mike Lindell?

Please post a copy of the verifiable evidence of your false accusations. We would like to see if we are wrong in our views. I guess if you have nothing than you are just making up you accusations.

Poor Okie thinks Floyd was crying for his mama for Gods sake, low information people shouldn't be allowed to converse without knowing the facts.

And here in lies the problem. You've both presented half truths.

Floyd was resisting at first, then he wasn't, particularly the last several minutes as he was unconscious.

Chauvin did have his knee of Floyds neck. Some of the time. Some of the time it was on his back/shoulders though.

Floyd had 3-4 times the amount of the minimum amount of Fentanyl ever found to have killed someone. To an addict with tolerance though, what Floyd had in his system may well have been no big deal. 12 beers to a 90 lb woman might kill her, 12 beers is a Friday night for a bunch of you guys on here.

George Floyd absolutely called out "Momma", but that's not all he said.

And you just presented even more half truths with more assumptions, so whats your point?

What did I present that was a half truth, what assumption did I make that wasn't specifically spelled out as such?

He called his girlfriend Mama which is who he was crying out to.

Keep it on topic and not political, or we will be reading and posting on this in the bunker.

“You and Mr. Floyd, I’m assuming like most couples had pet names for each other?” Chauvin attorney Eric Nelson asked Courteney Ross, Floyd’s girlfriend. Ross answered that they did, and Ross then asked: “What were you saved in his phone as?”

“Mama,” an emotional Ross answered after a moment.

“Incidentally, what did [Floyd] call his mother? What did he refer to her as?” Frank asked Ross.

“He called her mama too, but it’s just different, the way he said it,” Ross said. “It’s kind of hard to describe.”

“So if he were to say to somebody, ‘Mama,’ that could mean his actual mother?” Frank asked.

“Yes,” Ross answered.

“Which is also a name he called you,” Frank added.

“Yes,” Ross said.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Back to my personal commentary: We have no idea who Floyd was calling out to when he said "mama". Anyway you spin it though, a grown man was calling out for help from a woman.

and that has zero bearing on this case. thanks for making my point.

he needs to bulk up before he goes to prison
that also explains why he is a bully

Why keep moving them to the bunker, just lock the comments and let it die. There are usually already 2 or 3 of the same threads already in the Bunker.

It is to keep the sections on topic. It is the rules we are to enforce to keep the forum running.

He cried for mommy every time he got arrested, check out his 2019 arrest. He also ate a handful of drugs when he would get arrested and then would have to go to the hospital because the cops would think he was about to die. This was how he operated, and it worked really well up to this last time.

The interesting thing is the defense lawyers examined the car he was put in and found half eaten pills with Floyd's DNA on them 6 weeks after his death! how in the hell was this missed? It's almost like the prosecution want's to loose.

examine what I posted that the doc testified to....... "HE WAS BREATHING NORMALLY" .......that was while he was restrained....just before he died from drugs and heart attack.....NORMALLY....the defense will hit on this whole sequence at sometime....bet. No way this old knuckle dragger saw this and the defense did not.

Don't think the defense is going anywhere with little to refute the other side and flailing in thin air. Too many LEOs testifying as well as medical experts they haven't been able to crack. He kept his knee on the neck 2+ minutes after his last breath and 2+ more minutes after his pulse stopped. The look in his eyes showed he had full intent to kill Floyd. He's going to jail with a KY jelly kit.

I guess the other video views that show otherwise where not available to you for viewing. The states case has been awful and that is giving them some credit.

I think the DA is trying to loose on purpose. He probably didn't want to bring the case to begin with.

What a crock-

If I was the prosecution I would call you to the stand, put up a picture showing Chauvin’s eyes, have you tell the jury what Chauvin’s intent was...and then we (the prosecution) would rest.

I know there are no other contributing factors other than the look in his eyes, like the growing crowd getting more and more dangerous to officers safety.....

That’s some kind of sorcery ol’ fishslime has going on there. Very impressive!

yep
he was crazed

yep

You mean that dozen or so people, including kids, that stayed on the sidewalk with a whole 1 cop requesting them to stay on the sidewalk. Yup, they were plenty scary and dangerous.

Complete with at least 1 person having to be restrained by the crowd.... spin it how ever you want. Facts do not care about your feelings.

the EMS felt intimidated as well.

I sure hope he is found not guilty. I hate to see a cop go to jail for doing his job

don't go popping their bubble now... they have a narrative to defend.

can't wait to hear the defense. They've been very effective so far.

And that's exactly where it belongs.

Hate to see cops being bullies and getting away with it.

Just curious...have you watched the video?

All those cops looked stupid to my trained eye....they knew they were being videoed.....they knew it was an AA person....they were professional and did not use excessive force to control him....why not pretend to give a [censored] if he was in distress and render aid?? He would likely have died anyway and then what?? But murder? [censored] you... are you stupid? Intent??? Can't prove that..... autopsy show any injuries or indication of Manuel suffocation??? Nope..... but there are 12 lying [censored] holes just like fish that lied their way onto that jury and I find it extremely doubtful there are any that will be objective, honorable, or courageous enough to say the prosecution was misguided at best.....reasonable doubt exists or you're a liar

The look in his eyes is a personal observation made by others as well. Everything else is based on experts' testimony. It obvious what the cop did. No doubt in my mind. OJ got off, but there are too many witnesses and data for that to happen with this. I'm out till it is over.

Respectfully disagree. Based on the witnesses and data I’ve seen thus far, OJ will not be convicted.

One word..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ACQUITTAL

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...thologist-says/ar-BB1fszlC?ocid=msedgdhp

"Breathing not impaired" ....... that's 2

Is the prosecution through? They put on a pretty good case, not infallible, but good. Getting 12 votes will be tough. I think it is important for the police to eliminate the bad apples if they want respect. He was obviously not very well respected by his own colleagues.

Soooo, when there is one in a group that most DONT care for, that one should be removed from the group-

Got it mr popular-

LMAO GREAT POST

Well said ^^^^^^^^ he was doing what he was trained to do

And no one can look at a video and determine how much pressure was put on the thug, no matter where it was applied and there dang sure wasn’t enough pressure to stop the air flow from reaching is vocal cords

Go get your security blanket little boy and sit on your mommy's lab. She will make you feel all better.

Sitting on the family dog is just weird, but considering the source I'm not surprised

Savage!

Lol-
What a laugh you are-
I know you secretly fantasize about holding hands with orange man, but hey, it’s 2021, that’s acceptable now.

Play stupid games wins stupid prizes. The guy was drug abuser with criminal record. That doesn’t give the right for a officer to treat him in a manner that could cause harm or death under the arresting circumstance.Both are in the courts which handle these issues.That’s where this will be decided.

I am always in the “actions have consequences, think about doing things before you do them.” Line of thinking. So let the courts and the jury handle this.

I have no idea if he was a bad cop or not. If he was then he shouldn't be one. But he did nothing wrong in this case

Right, b and p aren't close enough for a finger fumble. Im thinking english isn't the first language.

What about George’s actions and the consequences that stem from those actions? Is that not why all this even happened in the first place? I’m on that side as well but I see it a little differently, now someone else is going to pay for George’s dumb arse actions.

Blacks labs matter

If there ever would have been consequences we wouldn’t be in this mess today. LEOs are the bad guys when the Criminal Justice system clearly failed. Why in the hell was George not behind bars. He had a lifetime of slaps on the wrist for many violent crimes.

What alternate universe are you living in?



Yep, facts do matter.

Looks like he's leaning on his other knee while the knee placement here is from ear back.

Take your blinders off and look again.

#youtoo

You better be glad there’s no program like that here, donenothing. I’d venture a guess you’d be one of the first voted off this island.

Its been clearly refuted in court. Nice try though.

"The medical examiner who performed George Floyd’s autopsy testified Friday that the pressure police applied to the Black man’s neck and back while he was pinned to the ground proved more than his already stressed heart could withstand."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/09/derek-chauvin-trial-2/

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/04/another_clearer_take_on_the_chauvin_trial.html


No was they get him for 2nd degree murder, 3rd degree murder is inappropriate by definition. Maybe they get him for manslaughter, but the prosecution's case is rapidly crumbling.

As usual, you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion.

An opinion piece from a far-right website.

As I have said before. Hung Jury!



Side Note: I have heard that jurors have been falling asleep and a lot of them seem to have already lost interest.

Wapo? A far left wing propaganda rag.

As it should, crumbled

Here ya go, from a far-right website:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chauvin-trial-medical-examiner-autopsy-george-floyd

if he isn't guilty
the court system is a joke

Getting baked before trial makes you oh so sleepy.

If he is guilty. The court system is a joke

+1you are correct he is innocent of murder

No one is found innocent they are found not guilty. A fine but very important factoid.

Touché you are correct

One rather explosive revelation is an admission from forensic pathologist Dr. Lindsey Thomas that, if Floyd’s body had been alone at home with the same level of deadly narcotics in his system as was found in his autopsy, she could have easily ruled the death was the result of a drug overdose.

Not exactly how that came out...
It was asked in hypothetical situation by Nelson.
She stated minus the existing health conditions and police force she could consider an OD.
I don't see or did I hear her state that she would have easily ruled it as an OD as you state.

Its from the trial transcript, not my words.

Nope, just watched her testimony again and her testimony doesn't match up to what you claim. Your report of "easily ruled" is not there. Big difference in "consider" and "easily ruled."

It sometimes is a joke, I remember the OJ trial and this last election for reference.

I never new Perry Mason’s grandson was named Jack!

Spot on!!

Good Luck,
Bozz

U R kidding about the election i hope
Trump was in charge

Entertaining but not relevant, as he didn't die alone in his house. He died in handcuffs with a police officers knee on his neck for 10 minutes.

"The first witness called to the stand by the prosecution Friday was forensic pathologist Dr. Lindsey Thomas, who bolstered the findings of other medical experts’ testimony that it was a lack of oxygen from the way he was pinned to the street by police that caused his death."

Proven false.

How was it proven false?

Read up. He was on his back, not his neck.

Bob, you live in a fantasy world of false information and meaningless technicalities all aimed at supporting a misguided agenda. Is it false because sometimes the knee was on his back compressing his lungs and making it hard to breathe?

Back at ya. You have an opinion, nothing more.

I've already read up. How do you explain the photos and videos that show his knee on Floyd's neck?

You sure throw out nonfactual statements Bob. Show me a credible report where it states what you're claiming.

Big Floyd

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-three-videos-minneapolis/index.html

Go look at the third video and tell that his knee isn't planted firmly on George Floyds neck.

I watched the trial, seen the videos, and read the articles and my “opinion” of what happened that day align much more with Bigbob than with CaptainCrunch. It’s opinions, nothing more. For that reason, I believe it is going to be very difficult to get 12 folks on the jury to agree on anything. We are a cross section of society, just like the jury. Think about it.

So in part, you're saying the knee was never on his neck?

Two words, reasonable doubt.

Murder is all about intent I doubt the officers woke up that morning decided they would go murder someone today

I think they will be found not guilty but best the woke people can hope for is manslaughter

I don't CNN. They aren't news.

Agree, the members of the jury are a significant factor.
Twelve jurors took five hours to find Amber Guyger guilty of first degree murder.

Tell us about this misguided agenda?

It seems a 20 year old was just shot to death during a routine traffic stop in a small town in MN.

Citation, link? What does this have to do with the topic at hand?

So you are mocking people with disabilities? How liberal of you.

Didn’t the bash on Trump for supposedly doing the same thing? Oh that’s right, they live by a different set of standards.... do as I say not as I do.

It's a picture of Steve Buscemi from the movie "Mr. Deeds".

Buscemi is great, haven't seen him in anything lately. Terrific in Fargo and Reservoir Dogs.

Both states docs said "he was breathing normally" while so restrained, until he died.....I find that interesting

Wow

No kidding? Wow I’d never thought that.

haha!!

I think it's past our bedtime children. Goodnight

Everyone has an opinion on this trial, that’s what makes this so interesting and easy conversation. But our opinion matters not in what the verdict will be on Chauvin. Very, very interesting trial. The trial verdict will end a lot of relationships in the nation, from friendships, jobs and hell may even cause a divorce for some. But at the end of the trial the old adage “my opinion along with yours and a couple of dollars will get you a cup of coffe”.

Yes Sir you are right on the money! Totally agree and well said!

huh he is not right

you CAN NOT GET A STARBUCKS cup of coffee for a couple dollars

If it ends a relationship than it was a very shallow relationship.

It means that they will have to delay the verdict for several weeks or months till the stores get rebuild and restocked. They have already been trashed and looted over the 20 year old saint getting shot.

Looks like the prosecution has rested, bring on the defense.

Does the defense lie down in order to “save the country?”

Hell no, it’s already turned to chit up there so keep fighting.

hell no!! burn it down.

brilliant!

they will, count on it.

Say what you will but George made a hellva indoor grill.

Isn’t that the leftist motto there, donenothing?

I have gotten the point that I believe Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, etc can burn to the ground. The voters in these cities laid the groundwork for what is happening and they deserve the results. Sometimes you reap what you sow.

yep. good luck to them.

They are the folks who turn their nose up to the people in "flyover country" for being uneducated knuckle-dragging neanderthals, meanwhile their cities have devolved into what they are today but still feel others should follow their lead for this country.

I watched his brother testify yesterday. Must have a different father. He does not look like George.

I have a general theory - Sibling numbers increase suddenly when when a family gets infused with a $27 million jump ball.

Not a good day for the Defense. Prosecutor made their use of force expert look pretty bad.

I watched that. Prosecutor toasted that guy. I even felt uncomfortable

The defense must not have many creditable witnesses as they used filler witnesses yesterday saving their better ones for last. Still, a good chance that the prosecutors will not get twelve votes.

Defense had a pretty solid day today with their one witness David Fowler, a forensic pathologist and former Maryland Medical Examiner.

He basically said that due to the number variables involved (Floyd's heart condition, drug use, etc.) that he could not determine the exact cause of death and would have shown such on the death certificate.

Prosecution didn't score many points on cross examination and those they did were rebuffed on redirect.

Not saying I agree with it but there is no way this cop gets a fair chance at getting off on these charges.

Reasonable doubt is something that is not even a thought in any of these jurors, the aftermath of what they would have to deal with if they let him go is enough to scare them I am sure.


Unless the defense can come up with some kind moment like what happened in the movie "A Time T o Kill" he will burn for this.

I think they have a very strong case for appeal if they do convict him.

Understand that Chauvin will not testify in his own defense. I wonder if that is an indication of their confidence in the outcome or an indication that Chauvin would further incriminate himself. I expected them to have increasingly creditable witnesses today and tomorrow before resting their case. I still think that it is unlikely they can get twelve to convict, at least initially. Maybe for a manslaughter conviction.

Defense Rest. Eric Chauvin not testifying.

Prosecution calling 1 rebuttal witness for short testimony. Should have closing arguments and go to the jury today.

Can't believe the Defense only called 2 witnesses.

I won't be hiring attorney Eric Nelson if I get in a serious jam.

I cannot fathom two defense witnesses in a case like this....incredibly poor.....ineffective counsel claim almost assured

Anyone involved in criminal litigation will tell you that a criminal defendant sitting on the witness stand is a terrible idea.

And I have heard the theory that fewer defense witnesses works in their favor. The strategy is to poke holes in prosecution witnesses, then offer an alternate theory and quit while you are ahead.

Guilty Murder 2.

15 years.

Judge Dan has spoken.

I disagree that the number is TWO!!!

"Judge admonishes prosecutors for late disclosures of evidence. Says Tobin can return as rebuttal but warns if he even hints at ‘new evidence’ it will be an immediate mistrial."

98 percent oxygen saturation ......

my sleep apnea causes me to be far under that.

the one jury I've ever been one we would have said not guilty had he not taken the stand and lost his cool when the da got ahold of him

Headed for the big house, I'm afraid....

Should be the easiest appeal in history if he gets convicted.

What do you see as a basis for appeal?

That's all, folks.

Judge gave jury a long weekend. Closing arguments start Monday at 9 A.M. CST.

One of the talking HLN heads covering the trial dropped an interesting nugget of information unless he misspoke. He said the jury members were all black.

Don't know how Chuvin's attorney let that happen.

Props to the Judge. He seems like a legitimately nice guy who listens carefully to the attorney's concerns and rules fairly on objections. Wonder if he would consider or has the authority to overrule a jury verdict of guilty of murder?

A $27MM civil judgment awarded the week prior to the trial would be one obvious choice.

I'm not sure that is correct. I saw an article just before the opening statements that described all the jurors and outlined some of the questions they were asked during voir dire. I actually thought there were NO black jurors, but maybe I'm not remembering correctly.

I think he's been incredibly one sided. I see no "fairness" at all. hence my believe that this would be easily overthrown on appeal.

he ruled against:

a change in venue.
did not sequester the jury.
didn't allow the eye witness to be called.
reinstated the 3rd degree murder charge that didn't apply.

Just my

How can positional asphyxiation and oxygen dep be the cause of death if his blood gas tests showed 98% O2 sat??? Ignorant [censored] if you don't see this for what it is.....blind and stupid

The jury will convict for no other reason than they dont want their house burned down

Anyone know how many years he's going to get? Probably 20?

Nothing short of dragging his corpse through Minneapolis will momentarily appease the BLM mob.

their only chance is manslaughter, and that will light the fires!

Mobs want their loot,...It's not going to end peaceable, regardless of the verdict. I feel sorry for the
honest people that live there.

Hopefully found not guilty

this ^^^^^^^

I'm going with hung jury.

if I was betting this ^^^^^

I hope for not guilty

Prayers for all, healing, and peace.

I think he will be found guilty,mainly because the gutless people are scared of the rioting. Which will happen no matter the verdict.

These are happy riots, we are rioting in celebration and solidarity of justice.

^this^

the judge warned the prosecution that he will call a mistrial if they try to introduce new evidence with a rebuttal witness.

Agree!

I thought George Floyd was dead. Didn't know a dead man could be tried.

Many are looking forward to the semi-annual "Everything is free" sale at Target

I think if he is found guilty, it is because he is guilty. Hope he spends a few years imprisoned to think about it.

Only culture on the planet that burns down their own grocery stores, businesses and community. Someone should explain to them how stupid that is.

You could expain it to them. But they are to stupid to understand

The only thing he is guilty of is doing his job. I hope he walks free

Northern Ireland has a history of violent and destructive rioting for as long as I can remember.

Gingers are known for flying off the handle in fits of rage.

When is stuff fixin to pop off up yonder? Verdict today/tomorrow?

They'll get the case today. bet they deliberate over several days. the longer it goes the more chance for violence.

I hope they checked their home insurance cause they may need it...... 98 percent oxygen saturation

that's a huge admission. seals the case for me.

Yep if he is found guilty we have lost this country’s justice system

98% shows the knee didn’t kill him if he was cutting his air off for 9 minutes he would not have had 98%

Defense attorney is presenting A LOT of reasonable doubt information to the jury in closing argument.

That was the o2 in the blood, what was the o2 in the brain? I didn't watch much of the court proceedings. Maybe they covered it. The o2 level in the blood only shows that co2 was not a contributing factor.

not sure exactly what your asking here. the brain doesn't have a separate o2 saturation that I'm aware of.

I figure there will be riots and looting either way the decision goes.

I've worked with military members as they separate and re-join society for about 15 years. In that time I've watched about half the infantry guys getting out show interest in law enforcement. The past couple of years we have teams of law enforcement recruiters and correctional recruiters vying for the one or two a week that may be interested. I can't say I blame the troops for considering all kinds of other careers before law enforcement.

I would make a horrible jurist, I’m probably not smart enough to digest everything. There’s just something about that phrase “lethal levels of fentanyl” (based on the tox report) that feels like reasonable doubt to me.

Maybe it’s just the part about knowing he’d ingested fentanyl and knowing what that can do...or maybe it’s the phrase “lethal levels”? I don’t know.

The knee to the back/neck may have cut off the blood flow to the brain. The hypoxia would occur because the brain isn't getting enough oxygen via the blood.

But what seals the case for me was the Chauvin was on maintained his position for minutes after Floyd was non-responsive and had no pulse. A person in custody shall be rendered first aid in that state, not continue to be restrained.

The word “of” gives me reasonable doubt.

reasonable doubt.

Knee on neck for 4 minutes after non-responsive and no pulse - Murder

Other than it being proven, shown, and admitted to by "expert witnesses" the knee was not on the neck, it was not constricted, and at what point did he loose pulse? Can you show your medical degree showing your certified to make this prognosis via camera however many hundreds of miles away form the patient being examined? You know... just for arguments sake.

speculation.

[quote=Bigbob_FTW

speculation. [/quote]

No... completely disproven by states experts witnesses, and alternate views from the others officers.

Emit... I think the atty heard ya and is speaking directly to you. "You can not take a single frame of the video and make a broad speculation"

I completely over-looked that word. You’d be a terrific jurist...probably foreman.

Even if he died from natural causes? That's maybe ....MAYBE failed to render aid

Jury in deliberations now. Guess it's a matter of time before the rest of Minneapolis goes up in flames

Will Maxine's comments cause mistrial?

Supposedly, THE expert on the respiratory system said as much. He wrote a book that is acknowledged as being the bible on the subject to some of the physiological experts.
Add that to the coroners report and you just don't have a way out unless you ignore some of the evidence. Juries do ignore the facts sometimes and you are never sure what they will do.

Judge denied it.

I hope some type of accountability is handed out to that nasty woman.

That lady is crazy and Pelosi now saying she should not apologize for what she said.
I'm just not understanding why the call for more violence but then again they haven't said anything against it in a yr +

Judge said she may have handed Defense grounds for mistrial on appeal.

Judge also told Maxine the moron and her kind that they should stfu

Lady is a left wing loon, but her comments will have no effect on the trial.

Maxine and Jordan should be put in a cell together for a month or so. Both are creepy.

Dumb question, who is Jordan?

Maybe that Van Slooten guy?

The last person in DC accused of inciting a riot had articles of impeachment quick fast and in a hurry. Is there an expulsion coming?

One day, hopefully soon, America will wake up and see the division.

Oh Jim Jordan, I was thinking it was someone pertinent to the Chauvin trial.

Ohio senator

Based on the charges and what evidence I've read, I'm thinking he'll be convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter. However, like everyone else outside of the jury box, we're not on the jury.

Oh no it doesn't fit the narrative, and America will NOT wake up, they are drunk on stimulus.

I say mistrial. Thank you Maxine scuzzbucket

I was dang close.

Maxine Waters is an idiot. Plain and Simple.

^^^^^^^^GOAT

Below are two quotes of hers regarding this topic. I triple checked them for accuracy because they appeared to not make sense. (“Make sense”, not as in the logic doesn’t add up to me, but rather, as in I can’t even understand what she’s trying to communicate.)

This one reads like maybe an incomplete thought:

"We're looking for a guilty verdict and we're looking to see if all of the talk that took place and has been taking place after they saw what happened to George Floyd.”


And because of the double negative, I can’t tell what she was saying:

“If nothing does not happen, then we know that we got to not only stay in the street, but we have got to fight for justice.”

If you do don’t do not misunderstand what she’s saying there, then you’re you are a bigger [censored] than I thought you were you’re are.

Verdict reached!

link?

Hopefully stores are already boarded up.... I'll probably watch the news tonight to see the "peaceful protestors"

will be announced at 4:30 i think they said

I hope they let Maxine Waters announce it so America can have a few more hours of peace while people try to figure out what she said.

No way they find him not guilty....just no way they have the courage

fify

Will be broadcast live between 3:30 and 4:00 pm by I think it was NBC (I deleted the push notification)

Minneapolis is on Central time just like Dallas, so if you want to be engaged, feel free to tune in.

I'll be enjoying my afternoon siesta . . . . . . . . . .

My neighbor says his sources are telling him the verdict is guilty, second-degree manslaughter.

The preponderance of the evidence points to guilty, but it only takes one juror with a reasonable doubt to acquit.

If that's all he gets, stuff will get burnt down tonight...

my buddy works in downtown Minneapolis lucky he gets to leave early today to go get his girls.

Stuff is gonna burn no matter what and every footlocker, liquor store, electronics store etc is about to have to reorder everything, again....

He should leave early, get another job and move if he was smart

I agree just not down here

Well I had a dinner reservation at a nice restaurant downtown tonight but I guess I’ll just go ahead and cancel that.

The only thing he is guilty of is doing his job. If he is found guilty it will be a shame

Agreed

Doesn't help that Biden gave an opinion and said that with all the evidence he hopes they make the right decision...

I love Arby's.

I don't know what to think on Biden giving his opinion... There has GOT to be some sort of policy or law regarding a Presidents opinion of an ongoing trial no?

well dang! I had you pegged as a jack in the box type.

If they found out that any juror heard about that before making their decision they could call mistrial I believe.... I don't think any juror isn't going to prosecute though because they would probably be doxxed and have their lives/families threatened.... My guess is 2nd degree manslaughter and riots tonight all over

How is that a problem? He did not say guilty or not guilty, just that they make the right decision based on the evidence.

Because it can influence people's decision.... pretty basic. Saying I'm praying they make the right decision is definitely slanted.

They will throw rocks through glass no matter what the verdict is
because they like throwing rocks through glass
because they know there will be no arrests

Why weigh in at all? He is not involved and most likely knows very little about the case. As we have seen during his time as President, he does better when he keeps his mouth shut. Dementia addled comments do not help anyone.

Nothing said about the Austin shooting!! Tell this carp ain't racial.

Pretty sure they're going to sacrifice the cop, to appease the mob. But he'll appeal and it'll go on forever.

The messed up part is small businesses can't even board up to protect their stores, plywood is too expensive.

Hopefully their insurance is up to date...

Guilty across the board.... Jesus Christ.

guilty 1, guilty 2, guilty 3... justice not served again.

guilty on all counts

Facts do not matter to them....not at all

That's to bad. I was hoping the jury would do the right thing

Justice served.

His bail is revoked he is heading to lockup.

So for all you thugs out there you are now free to roam the Asylum

I hate our "justice system".

Appeasement

Brilliant response.

Human sacrifice.

I guess we need to look at the positive side of things and keep things into perspective. We have one less thug off the streets

Mob rule prevails. Pitiful excuse of justice system failure. Antifa and BLM win, just as they did with the fraudulent election. Well, we will see where this path takes us.

Unbelievable.

I could have understood manslaughter but yeah surprised with this verdict.

The evidence was overwhelming and the defense team had no defense. Justice was done in light of the evidence. An appeal will probably be made, and the judge seemed biased in favor of an appeal. The good, honorable policemen will be well served by the verdict.

What time does the free chit Tuesday start? They got their way, three guilty verdicts and 27mill, time to act like savages.

Agreed

Counting yours, there are now two off the streets.

Don’t forget the multiple George Floyd family GoFundMe accounts. I believe that added up to well over $15 million. Not a bad pay day for them.

To the alter of BLM,Antifa, & the entire Dem Party.

Does this mean no big screens for the fine citizens?

All this drama for a crook.

How is it that there was one event, but three guilty verdicts? I would have thought they had to choose one of the three or none? And how can he be guilty of both unintentional murder and murder? Unless the laws in Minnesota are totally screwed up. Which also wouldn't surprise me.

There are many more of yours, they’ve shown out on a nightly occurrence.

I'm still holding to my tin foil theory that this was a hit organized by the DNC. Chauvin will never see prison. He will either disappear with a fat nest egg and new identity. Most likely he will get suicided very soon. Then reported that he was murdered in prison.

*Stares in Hillary

Yep. Mob rule strikes fear into the hearts of jurors and the SCOTUS. The rule of law is gone. Anarchy should be fun to watch on TV.

I knew this verdict was coming but I’m still disappointed.

Kicking the can down the road, appeal coming, meanwhile they hope things stay unburned

this
& human sacrifice

he was guilty - but?

i bet he is out in a couple of years

Exactly.

the last sentence speaks volumes

The jury may as well have kneeled. Shameful.

9 minutes with your knee on the neck...you should not be surprised if the life leaves the body and then accept the consequences of your actions.

Police don’t need reform or retraining, large number of society is the issue. The way people act, have no respect for authority, too worried about what’s in it for them and what they can get away with. Dried up prunes like Maxine Waters and the rest of the left wing clowns push them to act like savages so they should be treated like one.

X3

The judge was not biased in favor of an appeal. Your girl Maxine made an appeal probable by her insane ranting, paraphrasing what the judge said.

Ridiculous discussion but there was no way cop was getting a fair trial. The fear of what would happen and the media and left bias made sure of that. He was guilty before he even got fired in their minds. I was fine with manslaughter. When other cops said he was not responsive he should have been checked and attended to and that’s on Chauvin but drugs and delirium caused the death not suffocation from knee.

I'd let him come back. He's from Texas and his job took him there.

Al Sharpton looks like if he farted too hard it would knock him over. Fool needs to eat a cheeseburger.

Sad day for our country when society and the media martyrize a freakin THUG!

Where?

.... Do fentanyl, meth, weed, pills, have hypertension, resist arrest, accept the consequences of your actions... See how that works?

They were both thugs.

Very surprised of the verdict. I thought hung jury for sure! The Jury has decided guilty. I respect their decision.

If I were the driver I’d have 18 bloody wheels a rollin.

Now Kamala is playing the race card and pushing a law enforcement bill to “continue the legacy of George Floyd”. What legacy? The criminal part he participated in?

What’s your point? No one is defending the cops actions in the media or on the street.

a lot of people will not be getting new phones, and TV's,....

He kneels on the neck for 9 minutes. He got what he deserved. Should have put him in the car.

"Daddies looking down on her".... well I cannot judge a man's soul, but I doubt he is looking down.

He tried to put him in the car, then Floyd resisted and kicked cops.... Did you even do any research or do you just parrot talking points, play back seat driver, and have a failure to think for yourself?

Seems that many cannot understand that Floyd was not on trial. Chauvin was on trial, and the evidence was very compelling from his colleagues, expert witnesses and those who witnessed. He needed to go. He probably will get an appeal. The judge should have sequestered the jury from the get go. Will be interesting to see.

Doesn't seem possible to be guilty of manslaughter and murder. By definition it needs to be one or the other. Seems like manslaughter for sure to me, but either way he screwed up big time.

He was in the car and acted like a fool, get a clue and then come have a conversation.

I think there’s a saying that planes don’t crash because of one big problem, they crash when there’s a bunch of small problems that all happen simultaneously. I think that applies here.

George Floyd made a lot of bad decisions. Some on the day he died and some well before. Out of shape from years of drug abuse, poor life choices, drugs in his system the day he died, passing a counterfeit bill, resisting arrest, etc all created a bad situation. The cop took a bad situation and made it worse. There is plenty of blame on both sides.

Yes, but only George had a funeral!

The liberal mind is disgusting-

I told you so. I told you so. I told you so. One for each of the counts of guilty. I'm now out till the appeal which won't change much. Defense has nothing to work with.

Some may argue he got the better deal of the two.

Yep and if one had to die the right one die of his own actions of resisting arrest good riddance bad jury

This ended the only way it could after Waters ran her mouth last night. No way the cop got a fair and unbiased jury. They were probably scared for their life.

Basic grammar is hard...

DON'T CARE is that plain enough for you

yes this
i feel bad for the dude though
for some reason

he could have easily put him in the car

I think this is a really good analogy. Lots went wrong on that day.

Exactly

George Floyd got what he deserved a dirt nap good riddance.

How is this being repeated again.... They tried to put him in the vehicle. He fought against and kicked officers...

Are you a ten year old girl?

Things can’t get much better than this. First, Trump gets kicked out of office then a bad cop get’s what he deserves. Hope some of the snowflakes can get over this and don’t storm the Capitol Building again.

Cry it out honey.

LOL If double masks and Soy Latte's could post, this would be it.

I guess fraudulent elections have consequences.

Put leg restraints on him or put him in a car as you have described. Or be a tough guy and stand on his neck for 9 minutes and go to prison for life. What a dumb cop.

They had already tried to put him in the car. They got kicked. In the struggle in the back seat he busted his face and was bleeding. So when he got out and they got him on the ground they called for EMS. You don’t put someone that’s fighting back in the car when you’re waiting on the EMS.

What is crazy is that Chauvin probably would have been acquitted if it had not been videoed. Body, dash, and cell phone cams have changed everything.

I still don’t get any of the grief about a career criminal, resisting arrest after trying to pass counterfeit money, with lethal levels of drugs in system dying. I don’t agree with restraint after other cop said he was unresponsive but in the end a bad guy is no longer and the good guys jobs will get even tough. No way it was murder. No way it was fair trail. Manslaughter at worst and get down the road. Politicians need to keep their noses out of it!!

They don't care about the people, they are buying votes. The moonbats need a permanent voting class, stimulus 4.0 is already in the works.

If the point of the cameras is to hold police accountable for their actions then I would say maybe. If the point is to deter police from shooting black people because the system is racist, then you’re wrong. There has been no change in racial disparity in police shootings since body cams were adopted across the US.

Yep and his choice unfortunately.

I don't remember Waters giving any testimony in the trial.

What little pro active policing that has been going on, you can bet that it's all gone. Most Police Officers will do as little as possible. Officers will just look the other way. I know a lot of Officers who feel that way. Police Departments nation wide are short handed. It is only going to get much more worst. You think crime is on the rise now. It is really going to rise a lot more! Just my two cents.

Sorry Banker, I respectfully disagree. Most policemen are not comfortable with the bad actors in their group who are never held accountable and they are all included as a group for the actions. Hopefully this is the start of eliminating those policemen who can't play by the rules. The decision probably mostly turned on the very compelling video, but the testimony of his fellow officers did not help at all. He was a bully, and they mostly new it, and testified against him. He probably suffered from short man syndrome. Floyd was given a death sentence without a trial. Even so, I could not help but feel a little sad watching them handcuff Chauvin and taking him out of the court room, probably never to have another free day.

Harvard PhD studied this and found LE was LESS likely to shoot AA's .....he called it "the most shocking result of his career.....he's also AA ..... it's a false narrative by false gods.....period

It's not remotely qualified for a life sentence you silly cuck....and multiple appeals will be next...bet

it's a miracle floyd only man to die of lack of oxygen with a 98% saturation level in his blood. I bet most on here can't even make 98% but he died from choking yep bad jury and mob conviction.

Facts don't matter

This was a fun read... Nothing more.

Let me spell it out a little more clearly for you then.

LATEST HEADLINE

Derek Chauvin's defense team may reference Rep. Waters' comments as proof trial was unfair
Judge Peter Cahill suggested on Monday Waters' comments would play a part in the appeal

That proved alot but he got the [censored] show at trial. Why you would go into a career with public service is beyond me. You dumb [censored] want every bit of the American Dream.

All I know is...Never watched a second of it. My wife is Black my kids are mixed....we didn't care. We live in our own bubble. Hitting the lake tomorrow for some bed snagging smallmouth bass haha. We choose our path and it definitely won't wind up with police issues.

"silly cuck", how creative of you. Very spiritual. Fortunately name calling bother me very little as I realize how immature it is. I said nothing about a life sentence, but he 45 years old and could get more than 40 years.

My 9yr. old wanted to be a policeman. I had to be the one to tell him that that is a very unwise profession especially in this day and age. After I was done explaining to him why that is, I had to sit down and really take stock where we are as a society in general and I am saddened by it all.

I didn't watch a minute of it either... I get my news in the OT!

I personally know Police Officers all over the United States. I have very good contacts in most of the major cities across the U.S. You are right Police Officers want to get rid of the bad cops and they are a disgrace to the profession. Police Departments for the most part have done a good job getting rid of bad cops and even filing criminal charges on them if necessary. The problem is that Officers are taking the blame for the acts of a very small few who are bad officers and that are making very poor decisions while in the field. Police Officers have to make split second decisions and in most cases they are right on the money. When one Officer makes a mistake, a lot of politicians, news agencies, and citizen organizations want to do away with them. Several Major U.S. cities have already cut Police Departments budgets. I have been a Police Officer for 37 years with over half of my career being in a supervisory role. I can tell you that Police Officer Moral is at an all time low and just about every department is undermanned. Mass retirements have occurred over the past two years. Also recruitment is at an all time low as well. No one wants to be a police officer anymore. When high profile politicians do not back up Police Officers you are going to have a major problem. You are starting to see it now.


Side Note: If most of the suspects who have died from a police officers action, would have simply complied with a officers demands, they would have been alive today. Also if most of these suspects would have not been breaking the law in the first place they would have still been alive . Not to hard to figure out. Common Sense.

You can not use common sense with that one. He is an inigma and I have hit the filter too many times tonigh. He is simply a dumb [censored]....

Mob rule wins again.. There will be an appeal, waters and the judge pretty much spoofed it, the judge didn’t sequester the jury from day one and waters and all the fake news personalities gave a ultimatum to convict.,, I will never feel sorry for thugs , don’t matter if black, white, yellow or brown.. If you don’t have the sense to comply then you are probaly a dead beat on society anyway,. Got nothing for you, I really don’t have anything for you morons buying into all this divide and conquer propaganda either..

Still waiting on the multitude of cases where the perp followed all police commands, got shot, and the cop didn't get held accountable. Until then, stop shouting racism and police brutality. You can't ignore their commands and complain about the results.

This is by far the best post in this entire thread. Thanks, banker, and thank you for your many years of service!

Well stated.

Very well stated. Thank you for your service, and for sharing your experience. You always have a positive, professional way of stating your opinions and cary yourself with dignity.

Interesting. Was his work published in a respected peer reviewed journal. If so, a link would be nice. Otherwise, it does not amount to much.

But you say nothing of the Police Unions that tie the hands of city administrator trying to deal with the issue.

Yep! I know you are a Christian man Banker, the Bible makes it super simple in Romans 13:3 (NIV) "For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you."

I sure thought the jury deliberations would be much longer.

I sure thought Banker always Fishing... was either a banker who fished a lot or a guy who fished from the bank a lot... had no idea such an uplifting member of OT was a retired popo.

If I ever change me screen name, it will be to Bankrobber, always fishing... in his honor!

My thought was that they had the evidence that the jury would find him guilty, but the length of deliberations would be only for determining which count to find him guilty of since the counts were similar with slight differences. I thought they might come back with guilty on only 1 or at most 2 of the charges. My only surprise was they came back with guilty on all 3. I only thought it would take a long time if the jury was going to be hung on all 3 charges. Hard to believe part is that it will be almost 2 months before he is sentenced.

When do the riots and looting start? I was assured by several TFFers that the city would burn regardless of the verdict.

I love fishing from the bank! Enjoy the simple style. That is how I chose my handle. Banker Always Fishing! I fish in some of the most beautiful places in Texas. Some places I fish, I am the only one there with in miles. I started my police officer career when I was 20 years old. Retired at 57 years years old. Stayed with the same agency and had a great career. Started in patrol, then transferred into detectives, and then back into patrol. Spent my last 12 years as the night (Dog Watch) Lieutenant. Met and worked with God's BEST !

I truly thought this would be a hung jury. I respect 100 percent the juries decision. Our Justice System is the best in the world. We have to honor it. What bothers me the most is when a certain group of people seem to be above the law. That group of people get away with things that are destroying this country and it is plain to see that they are not being held accountable for their actions. Where is the public outcry for these law breakers. Any way we do live in a great country despite it's problems. Have faith and may God Bless America!

Thanks You for your service,

I just got out of a ten year court battle over some patents of mine. I got em back, but I got to see the worst of our so called justice system. The lawyers can manipulate the information the jury gets to see by the judge himself. I do not respect the juries verdicts, not so much because of the jury but the judge himself can chance the course of the entire trial by a very few decisions. The jury doesn't always get to see the information that may cause them to find a person guilty or innocent. Floyd had 98% oxygen saturation levels no way he was killed by the cop. They are trained to put people down that are resisting arrest. You want to change the laws fine but he in no way should have been found guilty of murder. I do not even see manslaughter but if he was going to be guilty of anything it would only be manslaughter. judges are pompous arrogant but holes that make bad decisions based off of political views.
just one bad decision he made the jury should have never been allowed to see anything outside of the trial. The trial should have been moved for fairness, lots of bad decisions by the judge to get a certain outcome the left wanted. This was never about justice.

So if I am not mistaken, your opinion here is that "bad people" in the police force should be held accountable for their actions as individuals, and they should be removed from that profession.

Can't say I disagree with that.

I do have a question though - why wouldn't that same principal apply to every group of people? Why can't we look at the black community and realize that a small slice of the demographic pie in America (13%) makes up the largest slice of pie in the prison system (40%).

If you truly believe that Black Lives Matter, you'll stop pointing at the "system" and start looking at the fundamentals within the community.

well well said

lets explore something the jury did not hear completely.... Causation

They only explored the causation in regards to the officer. But completely ignored, omitted, or objected to all the other causation.

1.If Floyd had not passed a fake bill. By causation this is what started the events.

2. If Floyd had not resisted lawful commands.

3. If Floyd had not ingested lethal levels of a controlled substance.

4. If Floyd had not resisted lawful commands again.

5. If Floyd had not resisted getting in the car ( with window open and ac on)


But yes... it was 100% the officers fault that Floyd made decisions and took actions of his own accord that dictated the path of the MPD's responding force with force. How can anyone disregard and ignore personal accountability. Wait... Nevermind, I see all the stuff that is said and posted and the lack of personal accountability on a fishing forum, much less in real life.

Because to lump everyone together without treating them individually is racist. The system is what has condoned many unwarranted shootings by cops. Some of it is understandable given the times. Someone who is being arrested is still entitled to his fundamental rights. The lady cop, who was experienced but who shot the guy who was being arrested and later claimed she thought she had her taser. She killed the guy and claimed it was a mistake. Way too many incidents to be justified.

The Officer never stood a chance to have a fair trial. It ALL started even before the Juror selection process began.
The moment a Elected official hit the street spewing her BS and POTUS commented on a case that have not been decided the Judge should have done the right thing and called a mistrial. There can not be a justice system when the mob rules plain and simple.

Actually, he never stood a chance when the young lady videoed him with his knee on the neck after he was not resisting. That piece of evidence alone probably did it but it was reinforced by the several colleagues who testified against him. Not sure if even one testified for him or his character.

How many incidents have there been this year? What is that number? Out of how many stops? Do the math and report back.. professor.

I'm done with all of it....not going to try to educate anyone anymore.... [censored] it, believe the fairytale of police hunting black people..... LE kills around 1000 people of all colors each year....50 or so are questionable....millions of contacts.....350 million people in America..... you do the math.

I believe it's less than one percent out of all police incidents that occur. Saw this on one of the news channels the other day.

The number one way not to get killed by a cop, DON'T BREAK THE LAW.

Neverdidnithing is proof education doesn’t make someone smart-

How do we turn off repeat? You're echoing false and disproven statements. The video taken feet away shows more than a video yards away.

Back to sentencing, I say the judge will give him at minimum 10 years and maximum 15 years. He will be out in 5-7 years on good behavior IF he is in protective custody his whole stay. If he’s in gen pop he’ll come out of prison in a body bag. I’m almost 100% sure when ex LEO’s go to the pokey they’re always in PC.

He will get the max on each charge they will be consecutive and if he ever gets out of prison he will be over 70 years old.

yep, no way in hell he gets off light.

Can’t help but agree. The fact that he was found guilty on everything possible, and within 12 hours of deliberation, kinda foreshadowed that.

I assume he will meet his demise in the pen, unless in protective quarters the whole time.

It is what it is, sign of the times. No earthly idea how cities will attract new recruits , if I were an LEO anywhere near the liberal hotbeds I would be putting resignation and moving to a more conservative community.

Eventually we will have two societies running in parallel each can govern as they see fit.

He may get the max, but it will be concurrent. There was only one crime committed. You can't sentence him 3 times for one action.

well, I didn't think you could convict him of 3 different crimes either.

I agree - I think 12.5 years is the max for 2nd or 3rd degree, and that's what he'll get.

He should have been tried and probably convicted of manslaughter IMHO and let off the murder charges. There is no evidence to support a 2nd or 3rd degree charge - those should have been eliminate during grand jury indictment.

He can be sentenced up to 40 years in the pen with the guilty verdicts. I'll go with 30 years without parole.

It's a trick of the DA to give them a better chance of conviction. He is fishing with a 12" swim bait, but also a wacky senko and a live minnow.

It's a trick of the DA to give them a better chance of conviction. He is fishing with a 12" swim bait, but also a wacky senko and a live minnow.[/quote]

I get that, but how can you be guilty of two types of murder and manslaughter all at the same time?

I'm not a lawyer, but I'll bet it will all get washed out in sentencing.

Good question, I was wondering this as well.

It is my understanding that he will be sentenced based on the most serious of those he was convicted. The sentencing guidelines suggest 12.5 years, but the prosecutor will ask for more. I would bet it will be 20-25 years.

I heard this morning that his state has sentencing guidelines for his crimes, but he will probably get the max allowed because of aggravating circumstances.

It's really immaterial. this will get overturned on appeal and probably end up at the scotus.

3000% chance that this verdict gets appealed but how much will they chip away?

This so called “trial” was as bogus as the last election-

A career thug died while doing a thug thing-

Yawn-

This is exactly how I see it

I would love to see Biden and Waters get called to the appellate court to testify about their unprecedented interference in an ongoing murder trial.

When he was convicted of the toughest charge the other two were also met.

If I charge you with jumping three feet, two feet and one foot and you were found to have jumped three feet you met the requirements to be convicted of jumping one and two feet.

the video i just saw
he is on holmes neck
he should have got off

yep 98% oxygen saturation and you still think he suffocated him with the oh knee to the neck theory

yep you are right execute him quick so the rest of the thugs can get 26 million also

I think there is a legitimate chance this happens. An unsequestered jury seeing the President and a well-known politician pressuring them for a verdict...what choice did they have?

To be fair, the had been sequestered before he spoke.

FYI.... They were sequestered and in jury deliberations when Biden made his comments. He shouldn't have said anything until the case was over, but facts are important to get straight.

At this point, this whole trial is just noise. The real fun comes now. The goal is not to defund police, it is take power of your local police force away and make it federal. If you libs don’t like what you current police force looks like, just wait until you see a federal police force. You are not going to like what it looks like. If you think our police are to militarized now, just wait to see what you have in store.

Plus...most large cities cannot pay the pensions for the retired policemen as it is, if they can push that debt to the federal level, they will do so in a heartbeat. That is what that large covid relief fund was all about. That money didn’t go towards covid relief, it went to pay for mismanagement of city funds. Wait and see the infrastructure bill, it will have the same amount of pork in it.

The BLMers and the like are useful idiots in this matter. Why do you think they are allowed to burn down their cities without being held accountable? On the surface, this whole thing is to remove the built in racism of our existing police forces. The only way for them to accomplish any of this is to remove local control.

Mix in a little gun control while we are at it.

Stop looking at the trial, there is something much larger happening here. Be scared, you should be.

You must’ve drank the koolaid

#hesgotsomethinghere

Has the thought occurred to any of you to worry less about something happening in Minnesota and worry more about what is happening in your city/county/state?

Why can’t we worry about all of it?

#muchwisdom

and thank your lucky starz us and OK will be the last holdouts in the epic struggle.

Truth

From my understanding Minnesota doesn’t do concurrent sentencing. I could be wrong, I was one other time.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.15

#totalclarity

I forgot to add the part about people saying , “Oh no, this can’t happen, it’s not constitutional.” Pack the Supreme Court with 4-5 additional Liberal Justices and the constitution means what they say it means to support their agenda. States Rights you ask, well armed militia, shutting down opposing speech because its offensive and goes against your views......you get the idea. The only thing protecting you from this whole disaster is our founding documents and the Supreme Court. Once they get approval for their agenda from the Supreme Court, there is no peaceful way to come back from this.

*MIKE DROP*

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.15
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So what’s the answer of concurrent sentences? I’m not a lawyer so what you posted doesn’t tell me anything,
I need the dummie edition, concurrent or not???

Coach it means the judge has to order the sentences are to run consecutively....otherwise they are automatically concurrent

I be damn, I wonder why I thought Minnesota said they didn’t honor concurrent sentences. I heard it on some outlet but anyway thanks for the clarification txmaster. And Rain Dakota Prescott will lead our ‘Boys to the promised land this year”.

Need to really nail down the draft with 3 or 4 top 100 defensive players

chauvin drank it for me
he murdered that dude

Butch you need to get you some glasses !!!!!!He did not murder him, he died from an overdose!!!!!! Read the autopsy report.

Butch doesn’t care about facts just cancel culture and let’s blame the cop not the thug
It came out During The trial Floyd’s blood saturation was 98% bet Butch today won’t have 98% most won’t
The left don’t care about the facts

Did not like the verdict. Chauvin was a bad cop based on his record of miss conduct. He should have been fired long ago. To send him to jail for murder was totally wrong but again I need to respect everyone on that jury that made the guilty verdict. As we all know more and more cops are getting out of the profession just like the left wing democratic party wants. This is a FACT! Check it out for your selves. The police profession started to be attached by politicians once Barrack Hussein Obama became the President ! Biden and the leftwing democratic party are going to do their best to damage police departments across the USA for their own agenda. AMERICA WAKE UP!

Maybe they are getting out of the profession because they do not like being associated with the bad actors. I think it will actually help the profession to deal with those who have been protected for too long.