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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: Jack Enidus]
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04/13/21 03:57 PM
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ToasterWEyes
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I was more afraid that they would gobble up all the bait fish and make life harder on the LMB and crappie. This is the excuse bow "fishing" psychopaths use for going out and killing them en masse. They actually have very low metabolisms and spend most months of the year dormant and suspended on the bottom. Hello from a bow fishing psycho!
It's only a good cast if you catch a fish... Personal Best: 11.62 lbs
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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: MONSTER2]
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04/13/21 03:59 PM
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ToasterWEyes
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Wack em and stack em.
It's only a good cast if you catch a fish... Personal Best: 11.62 lbs
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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: Jack Enidus]
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04/13/21 09:52 PM
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Darin S.
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TPW did a big article on gar (specifically alligator gar) in one of their magazine issues a few years ago. There's a lot of misinformation out there and TPW spends a good amount of money for research and awareness towards ending the senseless slaughter of the species. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the biologists who actually study those fish are better experts than Joe Schmo with a Bow. https://tpwmagazine.com/archive/2015/mar/ed_3_gar/“It’s a unique fish, a misunderstood fish, and it’s had an unfounded bad rap,” says Dave Terre, chief of fisheries management and research at the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. Department biologists have conducted a dozen studies so far... TPWD biologists analyzed the stomach contents of 392 gator gar... and found carp, tilapia and shad... and found carp, tilapia and shad... largemouth bass accounting for only 8 percent. Studies at six other Texas reservoirs, dating back to 1970, showed even smaller percentages of bass in the gars’ diet, and there’s no evidence that the big fish are having a significant impact on bass populations. Terre notes that many of the state’s best bass lakes — Falcon, Choke Canyon, Sam Rayburn and Toledo Bend — have robust populations of alligator gar.
“These fish have coexisted for eons,” he points out. “We can and do have great fishing for largemouth bass and alligator gar in the same place at the same time.” I have nothing against folks who legally harvest the fish by following the size and possession limits. It's the poachers who go out and fill trashcans and dump them in a field somewhere for a picture to post to an archery fishing forum on Facebook that are the problem and also the first ones to perpetuate the myth that they're doing it for the bass. Go look at the studies PAWS did at Falcon for a couple of years on alligator gar. The experts came to the conclusion that they were a detriment to to the fishery since all they do is eat, reproduce and have no predators. They decided to change the bag limit from 1 to 5 at Falcon. FIVE A DAY,
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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: MONSTER2]
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04/13/21 10:07 PM
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Darin S.
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We all know those little needle nosed gar pictured will try to eat the baby’s of the bass,crappie, bluegill. In a lake no biggie but you don’t want those suckers in a neighborhood pond!
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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: MONSTER2]
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04/14/21 01:37 AM
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ToasterWEyes
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This subject has been beaten to death. Bottom line, TPWD deems this huge harvests as beneficial or at the very least not detrimental to the state’s fisheries or they’d shut it down. Simple as that. I promise my bow fishing boat doesn’t blend into the surroundings at night......
It's only a good cast if you catch a fish... Personal Best: 11.62 lbs
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Re: Gar in neighborhood lake
[Re: MONSTER2]
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04/14/21 06:16 PM
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MONSTER2
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This neighborhood lake isn't super small, but it's shallow except for the far end. Since I started this post, the gar are now everywhere. They just cruise by the shoreline barely noticing me (or my jig).
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