But Warren never backs up his claims. Jus like in this thread where he has said numerous time how MLF has lost a bunch of sponsors and not signed new ones. That is just a totally made up claim

And I am not saying you do or don't. All I am saying is Big O catches it for spouting off "unsubstantiated claims", yet I am not seeing one shred of evidence to dispute them. You say you know, and you might (that isn't for me to dispute), but saying you know and not being able to back it up is like saying you caught them in practice but only bringing 3 to weigh in. If you do know and you can't say, then just don't say anything. Sort of makes it seem like a power trip on your part. I do not know either way. I can make a semi-educated, very biased assumption based upon certain thing that have happened. So far I would say Big O isn't as wrong and incoherent as some have stated.

I try to stay out of these, but Big O is just spreading to much slander. First, his point about saying what have the pro's on the MLF BPT won lately. Well they have won Tour events and Redcrest. What have the BASS Elites won outside of BASS? It's a dumb argument, it's like asking when the last time Frisco Roughriders (AAA baseball) won the MLB world series. Second, the point about making up TV numbers and digital. First of all you can't make them up, they come from independent audit sources such as Nielsen. While you jazz up any kind of number, it's still doesn't change the number and those in the business realize the context and what that number really means. Plus all of the ad agency people that are buying ads from these guys look up the numbers themselves.

Big O was personally hurt by MLF and now has a personal vendetta against them. The dumb arguments he brings up is getting old.

I always find it entertaining reading the posts from Big O. He seems to have super insider information on the state of mind with the MLF pros as well as a deep understanding of the MLF financials which I am sure he has full access to. However I think we can all agree on the following:

1. MLF has the top anglers in the sport. I don't think this can be disputed. If you look at the list of winners of the Bassmaster Classic from 2001 - 2019 (which covers 18 years), 16 of the winners (some are multiple winners, I get it) all fish MLF. Ike is fishing nothing, and Jay Yelas is the only Classic winner to still be with BASS. If MLF was broken, or unsustainable, these guys would just jump back to BASS because if I am correct...if you wil AoY or Classic, you can get an exemption to the Elites. Even if they have to pay entry fees again, apparently they don't care as they haven't left.

2. Compare the rosters of the two circuits. I think we can all agree here that the only reason the majority of the people fishing the Elites are fishing the Elites right now is because all the talent left and went to MLF. Had those anglers chosen to stay in BASS, the majority of those fishing the Elites now would not even be there.

3. Go to basspro or any fishing taclkle store...the majority of the baits on the market carry the names of MLF pros.

4. Economic impact - I can agree with Big O based upon his Data that when an Elite tour stops at a place, they get like a million dollars injected into the economy. That is great for the local economy. That being said, MLF having their Lake Fork tourney broadcast on Discovery, Outdoor Channel, etc probably impacted the Lake Fork economy 10x the Million that the local BASS stop did simply because the exposure is 10x that having a "big stage" locally has.

Those are just a few points that I see. I happen to watch both and also like both. However, I feel that MLF has a better product right now, and they also have the Elite of the Elite anglers in the world fishing for them. Their organization is relatively new compared to BASS, but they have made a huge impact in only a few years. Time will tell who will win out in the end, but if I am a betting man, my money rides on MLF right now simply because they have the best talent in the world from an angling perspective, and BASS has the second tier and will for the forseeable future.

You can say the anglers built their brand, and to an extent that is true, but they are nothing without a platform. Guys in local clubs that are good enough are nobodies because they have no platform. BASS provided a platform and an exposure that allowed these guys and the sport to grow. MLF has not done any of that. BASS will be fine because they no how to operate. The guys who aren't as big of name right now, will be. Big names come and go. BASS has a history of developing those.