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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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03/24/21 02:49 AM
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Richard McCarty
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It is kind of like the TPW 13 inch spread rule. This is funny to me and I think it is like trying to protect a black Angus bull cause one day he will be a long horn. If the genetics are not there then you can't get there. IMO
Good Night To All For Now. Got to get ready to go swing at them again tomorrow. It is kind of like the TPW 13 inch spread rule. This is funny to me and I think it is like trying to protect a black Angus bull cause one day he will be a long horn. If the genetics are not there then you can't get there. IMO
Good Night To All For Now. Got to get ready to go swing at them again tomorrow.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/24/21 04:16 AM
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txmasterpo
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13" restrictions have been great for Eastern Texas in my opinion...
Hey....how many fry do 13 pound female F1's produce in one spawn? I saw 1 million quoted....but I saw 50k too.....if you remove 12 million fry from a fishery how many fingerlings have to go back before its a net loss??
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: txmasterpo]
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03/24/21 02:25 PM
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13" restrictions have been great for Eastern Texas in my opinion...
Yes, the trophy quality is day and night difference in our area since they changed that rule. If your not seeing results your probably live in a poaching area were Richards are shooting two bucks on any size now. The places that are following the antler restrictions are thriving.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
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03/24/21 11:49 PM
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Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell
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I have 3 deer on my place that are 5-1/2 to 6-1/2 that need to go but are not 13 inches this is what does not work for me. I also have a picture of a 200 class buck running in my area that is not 13 inches. Sounds insane right ? He is a stud ! Probably got loose off a high fence my guess. If you don't have wide bucks already you can't grow them from bucks that don't have that gene. IMO
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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03/24/21 11:51 PM
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I have 3 deer on my place that are 5-1/2 to 6-1/2 that need to go but are not 13 inches this is what does not work for me. I also have a picture of a 200 class buck running in my area that is not 13 inches. Sounds insane right ? He is a stud ! Probably got loose off a high fence my guess. If you don't have wide bucks already you can't grow them from bucks that don't have that gene. IMO Uh... yeah I don't believe you, pleeeaaase post some pics I wanna see it.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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03/24/21 11:54 PM
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I have 3 deer on my place that are 5-1/2 to 6-1/2 that need to go but are not 13 inches this is what does not work for me. I also have a picture of a 200 class buck running in my area that is not 13 inches. Sounds insane right ? He is a stud ! Probably got loose off a high fence my guess. If you don't have wide bucks already you can't grow them from bucks that don't have that gene. IMO Not doubting you but would love to see a pic. That would be an insanely rare buck!! I can only think of one 200" buck off the top of my head that didnt make 13". We are talking 20 pound+ Bass kinda rare!!!
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/25/21 12:17 AM
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Lone_Wolf
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I wanna see too, I know all to many buddies that call a 150" buck a 200"
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/25/21 02:38 AM
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If I see a 200" deer it's getting shot brother.....and I think mature bucks that are really tall look narrower than they actually are....my experience
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/25/21 11:42 AM
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Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell
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Send me a Text. I don't know how to put the picture up here. He is huge. I would shoot him also cause he is mature.
I ran deer hunts in West Texas for 16 years and scored lots of bucks and I can look at one most the time and guess him very close.
This buck has lots of mass and kickers and I do not think he is over 13 inches wide.
Anyone who knows me knows I do not LIE . I always tell it like it is. His picture will make you change your mind and jaw will drop.
There is no way he is less than 180 but most likely 200 plus. Not even outside his ears.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/25/21 09:17 PM
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I did....still had your number from when you put a keel shield on my boat....still going strong too!!
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/25/21 10:04 PM
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Just gonna say, I wouldn’t mind seeing the freak buck either.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
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03/26/21 12:46 AM
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Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell
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If you want to see him just Text me on the number on my card. I don't know how to post here. If you think I am lying.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
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03/26/21 01:44 AM
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If you want to see him just Text me on the number on my card. I don't know how to post here. If you think I am lying. I don’t think you’re lying, I just want to see it, always like seeing big antlers. I’ll text you tomorrow if nobody else post a picture of it.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/26/21 10:16 PM
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Can you all cite a source that shows the 1% survival rate of the fry? I find that really hard to believe....and its sad if its true and would make me question the program. But I really gotta figure they are getting better than 1% survival rate.
Also...I understand that the ShareLunkers caught dont trace back to ShareLunker program fry....but what about all the 6-10 pounders that are caught daily all across the state? How much sharelunker genes are in those fish? Giant fish are freaks of nature and rare any way you slice it. Shaq is a GIANT human....are his parents giant humans? No. Are all shaq kids giants? No. But if you had to place a bet....would you bet on my 5'7'' self and my shorter lady to pump out a 6+ foot child....or would you bet on Shaq and his wife/gf to pump out a 6+ foot child? I trust my seed....but even im betting on shaq's babies! LOL
Honestly....a lot of you all are way toooo damn spoiled with the amazing fisheries TP&W and the Sharelunker program have helped create. You all catch soooo many 5+ pound fish you see them as nothing....when in fact its a pretty big deal! Go fish other states....and no, im not talking Cali and Florida...and that should give you all some persepective on how great it is that you all can not only catch 5's like its nothing....but that any day you all can head out and there is a high percent chance you can catch something 7 or 8+ pounds. i think im a pretty good fisherman, and I do know my home lake in NM has some bigs....but you gotta have some luck on your side for the day to see an 8+ pounder at my home lake...where as you need a lot less luck on your side in TX and they are caught wayyyyyy more often.
So yea, sharelunker isnt perfect....but what program dealing with living creatures is? Even though the program isnt working by your own created set of standards....does not discount the program or mean it is not BIGLY beneficial for the fisheries across the state.
Now to my ivie folk....i dont think you all were gonna catch those early share lunkers....but yea, im feeling bad for the recent ones cuz i bet those were the types some of you would catch...and also potentially release. Good thing Sharelunker knows enough to cap the amount taken out to 10.
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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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03/26/21 10:45 PM
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Bock, what part of there were big bass caught long before SAL do you not understand. These fish are Florida strain, they grow big if given time, food and warm water. If the results were there, they would have been published already.
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