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 Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/13/20 01:42 AM
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Big Swimbait
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SD Jam on everything here. I double it on my big baits.
Less gritchin', more fishin'
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Big Swimbait]
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11/13/20 01:47 AM
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Joel McBride
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If KVD uses a Palomar it's good enough for me!! Just make sure the line doesn't twist. Easy to tie and extremely strong.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/13/20 03:12 AM
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MCIPinkie
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I strongly recommend every one of you try the Eugene Bend that James N. was showing.
I tried it after watching him on YouTube. It's got to be the easiest knot I've ever seen to tie even with my bad eyes and diminishing small motor skills. You don't have to pass the bait through it like the Palomar.
I tie it in all my hard lines. Mono and FC. 8 lb. to 25. No problem. I take 4 turns rather than 3. Just looked and felt better.
I'm 74 years old. Consider myself a knot buff. Think I've tried them all at least once, but I've settled on this for mono and FC.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/13/20 04:04 AM
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Bass_Taco
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/13/20 01:58 PM
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jbcarroll3000
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I use the knot in the Gary Klein and Shaw Grigsby videos (I think one of them call it a double pitzen). Very easy to tie and I don't think I can attribute a single break off to knot failure. It didn't happen frequently, but back when I tied a palomar, I would get an occasional knot failure. Yes, I'm sure I tied it wrong, so it's probably not the knot's fault--just mine, so call it user error knot failure. But, with the double pitzen, I don't have user error knot failure.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/13/20 08:59 PM
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tricky
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Wonder why the guides and pro’s don’t use the polamar knot
Last edited by tricky; 11/13/20 09:08 PM.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Lee Finlay]
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11/14/20 12:26 AM
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txmasterpo
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TFF Guru
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I use the trilene knot for everything I can't keep that knot from slipping loose. You making two passes through the eye and it slips??
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: shotgunwilly]
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11/14/20 01:52 AM
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Razorback
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Palomar and never have a failure. Anybody that says a palomar and flouro don't mix isn't tying it right. Exactly
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: tricky]
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11/14/20 03:36 AM
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dnuggett
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Wonder why the guides and pro’s don’t use the polamar knot Some do, some don't. Just like anything.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: txmasterpo]
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11/14/20 01:52 PM
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Lee Finlay
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I use the trilene knot for everything I can't keep that knot from slipping loose. You making two passes through the eye and it slips?? I'll cut the tag long. After several casts it will become shorter. When I lose a lure, it's always at the knot, with a curly section at the end. Never lost a fish, though.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/14/20 03:05 PM
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furim2
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When floro first came out, I was using palomar and breaking on the hooksets. I went to a lighter rod and quit ripping their lips on the hookset. I then read an article in Bassmaster by Gary Klein. He said he had the same problem till he went with the Eugene Bend. He showed how to tie it. It is very easy. That stopped my problems, and have never broke at the knot on hookset since.
Ironically, Gary and I fished a small lake from the shore one time. I let him use on of my rods and he chose a buzzbait. After I got home I checked his knot. Definitely not a Eugene.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Darin S.]
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11/14/20 03:10 PM
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CCTX
mapquest
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mapquest
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^^^
Probably why the more senior pros and guides use something else—they had bad experiences with the prototype fluoros and never went back to palomar and Fluoro out of habit.
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: Champion1]
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11/14/20 04:44 PM
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Trickster
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Super Freak
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Double San Diego Jam Knot says Mark Pack. 
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Re: Fluorocarbon knots
[Re: wh2004]
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11/15/20 04:57 PM
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Buchbass2
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Only knot I’ve ever used for lures (other than drop shot) regardless of line type is improved clinch. I’ve read all kinds of bad things about It but I’ve never had any issues. Before getting into bass fishing I fished all over Florida saltwater for years with 10 to 20 lb fluoro and improved clinch and no issues. Ditto, never had a problem and it's quick and easy.
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