Anybody own one? Fished on one? Priced one? They look well built and finished.

The TFF dentist owns a bad arse one... Mr Jackson Bean where you at big dog??

They look beefy

Are they? By the name I would think they are a Bullet competitor which are light and fast.

Lee Livesay, BASS Elite Angler, from Longview, TX runs a Ballistic Boat.

They don't build or sell a ton of them but they do look very well made and laid out nicely.

they are a very nice boat more of a custom boat but until they produce more than the few boats a year they are a non factor in they real world of production bass boats.

Choices... And that's a good thing... Dan

Jackson Bean runs one, it's very nice

You should see him drive it!

Who??

The TFF official Dentist.

There pretty good for an aircraft carrier. There groupies has been bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths so it’s hurt there business. Kinda a copy between several boats and weigh a good bit. Have to run big motors to run good numbers.

What about groupies???

The .204 dry weight is 1500 pounds. A Nitro Z20 is 2000 pounds...

have seen a couple up close, very well built and they are fast.

I know the good Dr. Bean very well. I was just messing with him.

His new boat is pretty awesome. I had the opportunity to drive it a few days after he brought it home. It is their 22' boat and extremely well finished out. He has the new Merc 300R on back and it will approach 90 loaded to fish.

GREAT looking boat right there!

^^^^ This and Steve Glenn at SCP has shown videos of the one he was testing while he was a dealer, hitting 100mph and Ballistic themselves showed one with a flashed 200 hitting over 100 too!
Might have been the boat Steve was working on, but no matter, they are fast.

Rod box doors look so small! Looks like it would be a tangled mess removing/storing rods.

Maybe the boat is so big that it makes the door openings look small?

No front or rear pedestal or even butt seats seats? Got to be pretty bad a@@ to fish out of one in rough water!

Man I love the way those boats look.

Beautiful! If I couls talk my wife into upgrading this would be the color I would get!

She wouldn't want to get it past 1/3 throttle though.

I’ve had mine for a year now and it’s one heck of a boat. At over 22’ long the ride is great and you can store plenty of gear inside of the compartments. I think the doors might look small because the deck is so big because it’s really simple getting rods in and out. There are plenty of ways to set it up and since I do some tournament fishing I like the low and mid range torque that the Bravo 1 four blade provides and sacrifice the top end. I still hit 88.8 in the heat of the summer so I don’t doubt people are hitting higher with the Max 5 on it. The custom cover is very.... custom. It fits perfectly. The most important thing to me is that it fishes great. The dash isn’t cluttered with gauges but you can click over to them at a press of a button. I keep it loaded with tackle and fuel but this boat doesn’t mind it. Here are some random photos. The finish out is superb. These guys put a lot of pride into their product.

Nice sled

Out of curiosity, what is the price range of these?

Could we please see some pics of these groupies ?

Sounds like you wanted a pro staff deal and got turned down

They are priced similar to all the other premium boats.

Ballistic is very much customizable so the guys that buy them typically trick them out pretty well. When you start adding things like lithium batts & charger, 16" graphs, twin poles, 300-400 hp racing motors the price gets up there pretty quickly. These are not your garden variety mass produced bass boats.

As a matter of fact I have never seen one with a 250 on back except for Lee Livesay's rig and he fishes the BASS Elites which limits you to 250 hp.

Here's a nice Ranger Z521 ICON from two years ago with a Merc 250 I looked at at Cabelas for comparison. The salesman told me to make an offer because he felt they would "Come down to $100,000 for a serious buyer" LOL

And for only $15k more you can get it in a carbon fiber layup. Saves about 250#'s

OUCH! I would totally put a 250 on the back of the .204 model. It’s a pretty light boat so it still outta push 75+ easily and I don’t need to go 95+. You really don’t even often have conditions on the water suitable for that speed during tourney days it seems. Cool? Yes!

You could put a 200 SHO on it and flash it to a 300 and go 90+ for the same money as a 250.

There's that word again.... "Need"

Many of you have heard me say this:

There ain't nothing about the sport of bass fishing that has anything to do with NEED!!

I think all the flashing has been stopped by the feds.

Dropping almost a 100k on a new rig and worried about saving a couple grand on motor.

Some people want to save where they can! Myself I'd put the baddest motor on it I could find cause like you said you're buying a $65K $70K boat close to 100G with motor what's 4 or 5 K more or even $12K when you're in that price range.
The only reason I see for a 250 or less would be tournament restrictions.

I have the 300R on mine because the 450R wasn’t out yet.

Heck yea!!

Saw this on Facebook this afternoon

Jenn would have killed us both!

Big difference in pricing on 300, 400, & 450R motors. The new 300R is a 4.6L naturally aspirated V8.

It's important to note the 400R is a supercharged inline six cylinder. I predict they will kill this motor within 2 years. Why would they continue to produce a 400 that weighs 670# when they could easily make 400HP from their new 300R with a few mods at 520#?

The 450R is a supercharged 4.6L V8.

My guess is they will crank up the tune on the 300R next year to make it 350 to 400HP in naturally aspirated form. At 300HP it is very lightly stressed. It only requires 87 octane fuel and comes with a 3 year warranty. Want evidence to show a 4.6L V8 can make 400HP without blowing up? There are literally thousands of Ford Mustangs running around with 4.6L V8's making 400HP with no supercharger or turbo on pump gas.

The 450R is also pretty lightly stressed for a "racing" motor. It requires 89 octane fuel and also comes with a 3 year warranty. I predict they will increase the boost on the supercharger so the 450R will make 550 or 600HP. This motor could easily make 600HP reliably and do it for years on 92 octane pump gas.

The OMG-Factor is the 450R is twice the price of the 300R!!

The new NIZPRO superchargers built for the Yam SHO's have upped the ante in the high performance arena. It is a $20K mod but it takes a 200 or 250 Yam SHO to 460+HP. Bear in mind there is no warranty once you do this but the SHO has been out now since 2007 and there are enough of these motors out of warranty that some crazy Go-Fast guys will take this mod into serious consideration. Me for one!

This is yet another reason why I believe Mother Merc will crank up the 450 to 500+HP next year. All it would require would be a simple remapping of the ECU and fuel curve. My sources tell me they have been testing this motor at the 600HP level for a couple years on an offshore CC boat.

Whatever happens it should be interesting!!

Smart guy. Different between a 400 and a 250 ain’t a couple grand. If you have figured out the trick to spending other people’s money on your own gear then I’d love to hear it. Otherwise you outta keep your yap shut when it comes to somebody else’s preferences

Difference between a 200 and 300 is only a couple of grand which is what Rocky suggested. And yes I know what a 400 cost which is cheap comparedto a 450

I had planned to get one last fall because their website kept saying "Coming Fall 2019" (I know it still said that at least until May 2020). I gave up on them late last year and got a Ranger.

I'll stick with mine,..

The main reason you've never seen an Ally on the Lake is Ken was running 11K Rpm's and thrown a half mile rooster tail.

Except...when "I really NEED to catch an Over" denny

Brian Dodge posted this on his FB page.

Jeet Swesus!!!!!!!

makes perfect sense a tournament bass boat that runs over a hundred mph an illegal to use in most bass tournaments

Only tournaments it would be illegal in that I know of are BASS and FLW. And lots of people own bass boats that don't fish any tournaments

And not everyone gives a hoot about BASS, FLW, MLF or any of the other leagues.

That was Brian Dodge's 223 with a 400R Verado and some kind of 5 blade cleaver.
Ballistics are rated at max hp of 300 so that one would be illegal in many tournaments.
Insurance is probably very high for it if you can find someone to insure it.

Edit: I saw the boat sticker on Jackson's boat and it said unlimited. I was going by the Ballistic boat site which said RECOMMENDED HP. My fault.


The Allison 21 footer is doing a little over 105 with a 300, 95 with a 250XS.

Pretty sure the prop is a Mercury Max 5, only retails for about $2500

I believe it's the Max 5.

He said it was a Mercury Cleaver 31 after looking.
https://www.facebook.com/brian.dodge.9887

I love hearing this argument. Check "most" of the big tournaments in Texas.... Sealy, Berkeley, Bass Champs, TTT, TTZ, Media, and on, and on, and nobody says anything other than what the Coast Guard plate says.

I'm not sure why some guys get so butt hurt that many of us like a bigger motor. It doesn't mean you're a bad fisherman. It just means we are going to get there faster. If you fish BASS or with Johnny Morris, great. Buy a 250. But otherwise you can fish with what ever motor you want.

J

I like to have as many horses as I can get, don't always use them but they are nice to have.

Comparing the same block, usually the higher hp gives you better mpg at X speed on the same boat.

I was fine, most of the time, running a 150 Opti on my Allison. I could run with most 225's and many 250's.
I did find out when I upped the hp that I could run even faster in big water by trimming my motor down a little more while at full throttle.

The same p!ss ants whining about 100mph bass boats fail to realize that sometimes it ain't just about fishing.

I really wish you didn't just put this idea in my head Lol!

I love the looks of the Ballistic and from what I've heard about them they perform very well.

I had the 175 fast strike on back of the champion 184, dyno'd 225 at prop when monte racing worked it over for original owner.
called all the directors for the tournaments I fish and everyone told me that as long as it was original power head ie. not a 250 on a 200 mid then I was legal.
everything on it came from the factory but monte did some internal work and milled the heads etc. perfectly legal to fish.

I met the owner @ Texas Bassfest a couple of years ago. He seems like a real standup guy. We talked about Lee and his boats. I saw a post on here a while back that said they were moving operations to the Tyler/Longview area if I remember right.

Speed, performance are great I’m sure.
But that fishing platform seems huge, looks awesome.

Hmm... just had to go look... love the model names... .204 and .223 now all they need is a .17, hang a 150 on it and their covered... nobody builds a nice 150 class boat anymore...

the reason there are not many boats built for 150 hp as few parts as there is to build boats they go to what the masses of bass boat buyers are wanting big boats an big motors.

I love a boat that looks like is doing 60mph sitting on the trailer.

I understand your point, but, I do believe there is a market for 17’ 150 class boats and they should at least be a catalog item that could be ordered if one chose to go that route... and the 17’er should come with all the bells and whistles found on flagship model’s, not the cheapen so called “entry level” they are considered today... I was just in the market and wanted a smaller rig but ended up settling for another 20’er... {le-sigh}....

With this fuel cost being what it is I actually kicked around the idea this week of switching to a lighter 17 foot ALUMINUM boat with about a 75 horsepower motor just so I could get out more. I tournament fished out of rig that size a couple of decades ago and had more success out of that rig than anything else I've ever fished out of; period.
I started my search looking at Tracker boats since they are considered the cheapest and realized real quick I was going to be into one of those boats with two cheap fishfinders, with in just a few bucks of what I paid for my used ZX200 Skeeter. That shot that idea down in a hurry.
I looked at 150 powered new boats for a while last year when I was still in the market. The prices on them is the main thing that kept me from going that route. For just a little more I could get into a 19 plus footer.

$5 rod straps on a $100k plus boat

Does it really matter what size motor you choose to use on your boat to others???? Some people just like to complain even though whatever you choose to use on your boat does not affect them at all. They did not pay for it. Just complainers.

mercury won't trade with you? LOL nice boat tho