Unreal.

Several of these stories coming out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...or-refusing-to-manipulate-covid-19-data/

My kids Dr. is at a Baylor satellite location. Called them this morning to schedule them well checkups since it's always 2-3 months wait to get in. They said we have plenty of openings this week, pick anytime and day you want.

not surprising in the least.

Right on Tiltman. That's solid.

So let's just count bodies regardless of how they died. Basically since early April 30% more people than normal have been dying per week. Normally this time a year we see roughly 55,000 dead people per week in this country. We've been seeing roughly 70,000 dead per week. If not COVID, what's causing all these extra dead bodies?

See data in link below, but ignore the last 4 weeks because that data is not yet fully updated. (See note below graph for details).

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Jpurdue, quit using facts and links supporting what your saying, your clouding the issues.....lol.

"So let's just count bodies regardless of how they died. Basically since early April 30% more people than normal have been dying per week. Normally this time a year we see roughly 55,000 dead people per week in this country. We've been seeing roughly 70,000 dead per week. If not COVID, what's causing all these extra dead bodies?

See data in link below, but ignore the last 4 weeks because that data is not yet fully updated. (See note below graph for details).

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm"


Okay, lets just look at percentage of expected deaths. Go to the state list and sort by that column. Scroll down, nevermind, you won't have to scroll down, because it is only 7 states that have a statistically significant amount of deaths above 100 percent of expected.
That's where the efforts should have been focused. That's where all the excess dying occurred.

I'm not even suggesting you are wrong or I am right, only that data can be manipulated to push forward an agenda. Even perfectly good data. Then throw in the accusations from both sides about the quality of data and we have this dang ole cluster that we are in.

Read on. The story is updated. The doctor was quoting averages, not a lump sump because you had Covid.
It was misinterpreted a lot when it first came out.

They passed a spending bill giving 20% more for Covid patients. Its not a lump sum payment for Covid. Since they are isolated their cost is higher so an average Covid patients billable costs are 13k and the average billable cost of a Covid patient who gets put on a ventilator is 39k.

I do believe Covid is real. I do not want it. A friends fil died from it.
However I sick of the crossed up numbers and media hype.
What is real, how can a normal person gather true facts to try to make a real decision.
I did hear ( Monday morning on Fox News) that there was less than 500 active cases in the Dfw area.
If that is true that is very promising.

Getting close to 40 million unemployed not counting "furloughed"

How they gonna pay the bills when they're still out of work come December?

Nearly 40 million people were on Lake Lewisville this week. After all the people get off the lake, it drops 3 feet.

Talking about deaths. How many have died from no or under treatment of all other conditions? How many having heart attacks didn't go to the hospital for fear of the corona virus? How many skipped their cancer treatments? Or failed to go in with that abnormal pain that needed surgery but developed into an advanced cancer or became septic with a leaky bowel? How many "common" pneumonias were sent home to "recover"?

I can tell you it was a huge number of folks that needed to be hospitalized but the hospitals were pretty much shut down except for corona virus patients. It was tragic. I can promise you this happened because I saw it happening and it happened in every hospital in this country.

As JP posted, hospitals benefit substantially financially by listing deaths as COVID. Fraud anybody?

Deaths were originally projected up to 2,000,000 Americans, from the government. Y'all trust the numbers the government is posting as COVID-19 deaths and the stage they are setting that will be the worst economic disaster EVER??

Do I think the corona is real ... well he11 yeah I do. I've seen it intimately. Do I think this whole governmental response to this "pandemic" is way, way, out of proportion to the danger. He11 yes. Why such an overreaction y'all? The numbers definitely don't support it.

Is it worth food lines and you relying on the government for your food ... your loved ones food. Economic total collapse is coming if everything is not opened and it is not going to be in some of this nation's most important economic states (NY, Cal). Hold on !

I think economic collapse is coming no matter what. It's not just the US going through this, it's the whole world. The decisions to quarantine were not made by the Republican or Democrat Party, they were made by all leaders of all parties almost all over the world. A few countries didn't quarantine, their economies are not booming either.

More deaths than normal? That's weird, I know of a well established funeral home in Louisiana, (I hear the virus is bad down here), that is running the same amount of weekly services they have the last few years, no spike at all.

Weird huh?