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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:01 PM
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Regardless of what Mike roid freak Trout says....This is not as big a deal as steroids. People cheated for decades and the MLB just looked away. Tells you everything you need to know that they hurried through this and gave no suspensions. No way were they interested in finding out how wide spread this was. First Trout is the greatest player in baseball right now, and he isn't roided up. Also no way is roids, by individual players a bigger wrong than the whole team cheating. Trout should work on getting the Meth and Heroin out of his clubhouse instead of mouthing off about sign stealing....
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:05 PM
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The Astros are going to get booed and heckled out of the stadiums of 82 road games and who knows how many in Houston, astros fans are pissed too. It’s going to make winning 100+ games, the AL and a second World Series that much sweeter. yep so no other teams in MLB steal signals? granted the trash can was idiotic
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:06 PM
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butch sanders
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Regardless of what Mike roid freak Trout says....This is not as big a deal as steroids. People cheated for decades and the MLB just looked away. Tells you everything you need to know that they hurried through this and gave no suspensions. No way were they interested in finding out how wide spread this was. First Trout is the greatest player in baseball right now, and he isn't roided up. Also no way is roids, by individual players a bigger wrong than the whole team cheating. Trout should work on getting the Meth and Heroin out of his clubhouse instead of mouthing off about sign stealing.... hopefully they can cancel more games because some mid-level millionaire OD's
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:18 PM
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Regardless of what Mike roid freak Trout says....This is not as big a deal as steroids. People cheated for decades and the MLB just looked away. Tells you everything you need to know that they hurried through this and gave no suspensions. No way were they interested in finding out how wide spread this was. First Trout is the greatest player in baseball right now, and he isn't roided up. Also no way is roids, by individual players a bigger wrong than the whole team cheating. Trout should work on getting the Meth and Heroin out of his clubhouse instead of mouthing off about sign stealing.... hopefully they can cancel more games because some mid-level millionaire OD's
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:31 PM
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:34 PM
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so no other teams in MLB steal signals? granted the trash can was idiotic
This is what happens when you have a professional sports league played and managed by mostly perpetual adolescents and owned by profit seeking moral compass.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 02:54 PM
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Astros players and fans will have to have some incredibly thick skin this year. Everywhere they go they will be subjected to redicule,taunting, and insults. Players will be targets by opposing teams and fans alike. It could be a long, long season...unless, they are 10 games are more in the lead all year.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 03:00 PM
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Regardless of what Mike roid freak Trout says....This is not as big a deal as steroids. People cheated for decades and the MLB just looked away. Tells you everything you need to know that they hurried through this and gave no suspensions. No way were they interested in finding out how wide spread this was. First Trout is the greatest player in baseball right now, and he isn't roided up. Also no way is roids, by individual players a bigger wrong than the whole team cheating. Trout will be caught, he is on PEDs Do yo think the Astros were the only team doing it? They were absolutely not the only team doing it... they just happened to be the team that won the World Series doing it and got caught red handed. Hate on Trout, or any of the others that have spoken their minds all you want... PED's or whatever to deflect from the whole point to the chaos, Houston cheated and got caught. I hope the Houston faithful are correct and they do win 100 games and take home the title in 2020, otherwise the legacy of the entire run for this team will forever be tainted.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 04:25 PM
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Pretty sure there will be forces at play behind the scenes to make sure the Astros don't even sniff the WS this year.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 04:39 PM
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Pretty sure there will be forces at play behind the scenes to make sure the Astros don't even sniff the WS this year. I am afraid you are correct. No one in baseball, or the media, wanted the 'Stros in the WS either year. They always want the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Reds, etc. in instead of a small market team like the Astros.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 04:40 PM
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 04:44 PM
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Pretty sure there will be forces at play behind the scenes to make sure the Astros don't even sniff the WS this year. I am afraid you are correct. No one in baseball, or the media, wanted the 'Stros in the WS either year. They always want the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Reds, etc. in instead of a small market team like the Astros. Small TV market size ain't the problem. Houston is #8 in the US, ahead of Atlanta, Boston and Cincinnati.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 05:22 PM
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Yes. You know those fancy TV guys in New York and LA just want to see the big cities and teams with the big National and even International followings... you know, like the Cincinnati Reds.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 06:50 PM
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So we ban Pete Rose for life for somethat that legitimately didn't impact the game, we ban the black sox for life for something that did impact the game, and the Astros players blatantly, intentionally cheat and get nothing?
Strip the rings and trophy. No champion that year. I don't care if you suspend the players or not - that would be enough to deter this type of activity in the future IMHO.
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Re: Lets Talk Astros
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02/18/20 07:54 PM
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Regardless of what Mike roid freak Trout says....This is not as big a deal as steroids. People cheated for decades and the MLB just looked away. Tells you everything you need to know that they hurried through this and gave no suspensions. No way were they interested in finding out how wide spread this was. There were pitchers on PEDs, too. And being on PEDs is not the same as knowing what pitch is coming. I disagree that this is not as big a deal as roids. I think this is way bigger. There were teams that had doctors designed to help them pass tests. Sign stealing has been going on since Abner Doubleday. We don't know now, but using video footage may have been the norm. I am interested in Nolan's opinion and what and when he knew things. Sign stealing is ok as long as electronics aren’t used. It’s a part of the game and always has been. The league sent a memo reminding teams that using electronics was illegal. PEDs, while also illegal, is a much different animal. Pitchers were also taking them during that time. They don’t help you hit a baseball. Knowing what pitch is coming helps you hit a baseball, and the pitcher is at a severe disadvantage by the second inning if the other team knows what’s coming. I’m sure using cameras and monitors was the norm, but that’s not my point. I’m not condoning PEDs either. And I’d like to hear from Nolan, too.
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