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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/14/20 11:25 PM
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/15/20 01:44 AM
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That’s WHY YOU SHOULD buy a Toyota. They know of an issue and fix it BEFORE it fails. And they’re HONEST about it. Ford just keeps their mouth shut and hope it lasts past the 12month/12000 miles. Then it’s on your dime.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/15/20 03:39 AM
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grout-scout
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That’s WHY YOU SHOULD buy a Toyota. They know of an issue and fix it BEFORE it fails. And they’re HONEST about it. Ford just keeps their mouth shut and hope it lasts past the 12month/12000 miles. Then it’s on your dime. But in the meantime, while there is no fix, keep on driving those time bombs.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/17/20 02:18 PM
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Samsonsworld
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That’s WHY YOU SHOULD buy a Toyota. They know of an issue and fix it BEFORE it fails. And they’re HONEST about it. Ford just keeps their mouth shut and hope it lasts past the 12month/12000 miles. Then it’s on your dime. I don't think so, Tim. After I had my tranny fixed on my 2013 F150 at around 80k miles, Ford put out a recall for a free fix and reimbursed me retroactively.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/18/20 01:14 AM
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and here I thought the TFF was dead. I was just looking in the wrong section
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/18/20 05:08 AM
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grout-scout
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and here I thought the TFF was dead. I was just looking in the wrong section We have to work hard to find something to bicker over, lol. Feel free to add some gas to our fire!
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/19/20 01:57 AM
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He was referring to the DPS6 dual-clutch "PowerShift" transmission used in 2 million Focus and Fiesta cars sold this decade that is the subject of massive litigation and a federal criminal fraud probe. They don’t make them anymore at least in America so who cares.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/21/20 11:56 AM
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owned all 3 american brands, never owned a toy truck. had friends in colorado that had the older toys with the r22 engine and they were lil 4 wheelers for sure but could not haul a load or pull much weight. my 14 f150 just turned 100k and the only problem with the 5.0 coyote has been a head temp sensor went out, dealer repair under warranty (bought the extended version) cost me 100.00 and got a free rental for the 3 days I needed it. I would buy a new dodge or ford in a flash if I could afford it, this one has been a great truck, oil changes every 5000, tires rotated at oil change, runs like a scalded cat and pulls the 20' champion with ease.
will never buy another gm product under any circumstances, don't have a problem with toys but won't own one due to the low mileage, my 5.0 gets 15.5 avg and for a 4x4 I am happy.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/21/20 11:06 PM
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owned all 3 american brands, never owned a toy truck. had friends in colorado that had the older toys with the r22 engine and they were lil 4 wheelers for sure but could not haul a load or pull much weight. my 14 f150 just turned 100k and the only problem with the 5.0 coyote has been a head temp sensor went out, dealer repair under warranty (bought the extended version) cost me 100.00 and got a free rental for the 3 days I needed it. I would buy a new dodge or ford in a flash if I could afford it, this one has been a great truck, oil changes every 5000, tires rotated at oil change, runs like a scalded cat and pulls the 20' champion with ease.
will never buy another gm product under any circumstances, don't have a problem with toys but won't own one due to the low mileage, my 5.0 gets 15.5 avg and for a 4x4 I am happy.
GM has the most reliable trucks out there followed by Ford and Dodge, One of those Turds aren't even in the mix!!!
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/21/20 11:35 PM
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tmd11111
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owned all 3 american brands, never owned a toy truck. had friends in colorado that had the older toys with the r22 engine and they were lil 4 wheelers for sure but could not haul a load or pull much weight. my 14 f150 just turned 100k and the only problem with the 5.0 coyote has been a head temp sensor went out, dealer repair under warranty (bought the extended version) cost me 100.00 and got a free rental for the 3 days I needed it. I would buy a new dodge or ford in a flash if I could afford it, this one has been a great truck, oil changes every 5000, tires rotated at oil change, runs like a scalded cat and pulls the 20' champion with ease.
will never buy another gm product under any circumstances, don't have a problem with toys but won't own one due to the low mileage, my 5.0 gets 15.5 avg and for a 4x4 I am happy.
GM has the most reliable trucks out there followed by Ford and Dodge, One of those Turds aren't even in the mix!!!
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/22/20 06:14 PM
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owned all 3 american brands, never owned a toy truck. had friends in colorado that had the older toys with the r22 engine and they were lil 4 wheelers for sure but could not haul a load or pull much weight. my 14 f150 just turned 100k and the only problem with the 5.0 coyote has been a head temp sensor went out, dealer repair under warranty (bought the extended version) cost me 100.00 and got a free rental for the 3 days I needed it. I would buy a new dodge or ford in a flash if I could afford it, this one has been a great truck, oil changes every 5000, tires rotated at oil change, runs like a scalded cat and pulls the 20' champion with ease.
will never buy another gm product under any circumstances, don't have a problem with toys but won't own one due to the low mileage, my 5.0 gets 15.5 avg and for a 4x4 I am happy.
Heck my Tundra does better than that but there are too many variables to do an accurate comparison. Type of driving, how you drive (mostly gentle except when some idiot in a Dodge Charger thinks he can jump in front of me at a stoplight), mods such as lift and mainly tires, and probably something that I am not thinking of.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/22/20 08:28 PM
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I drive a ram. They probably have about the worst reputation around for reliability quality etc. To beat all it is an ecodiesel one of the most problematic issue plagued engines built these days. As of January 31'st I will have 4 years and about 81,000 absolutely trouble free miles on it. I haven't had to replace so much as a brake light or a fuse. Best vehicle I have ever owned to date.
I completely believe there are some lemons from all manufacturers and I believe that how it is used/neglected/maintained/abused means more than just about anything.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/23/20 02:19 AM
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Well said. I like Fords but I would buy a Dodge, Toyota etc. if I liked that particular model better when I am in the market. I think GM makes a good truck as well but they are on the bottom of my list because as I stated earlier they shut down plants last year in the US and shifted their production to China after taking a $9 billion US tax payer bailout. But thats just me. I drive a ram. They probably have about the worst reputation around for reliability quality etc. To beat all it is an ecodiesel one of the most problematic issue plagued engines built these days. As of January 31'st I will have 4 years and about 81,000 absolutely trouble free miles on it. I haven't had to replace so much as a brake light or a fuse. Best vehicle I have ever owned to date.
I completely believe there are some lemons from all manufacturers and I believe that how it is used/neglected/maintained/abused means more than just about anything.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/23/20 01:51 PM
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hopalong
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owned all 3 american brands, never owned a toy truck. had friends in colorado that had the older toys with the r22 engine and they were lil 4 wheelers for sure but could not haul a load or pull much weight. my 14 f150 just turned 100k and the only problem with the 5.0 coyote has been a head temp sensor went out, dealer repair under warranty (bought the extended version) cost me 100.00 and got a free rental for the 3 days I needed it. I would buy a new dodge or ford in a flash if I could afford it, this one has been a great truck, oil changes every 5000, tires rotated at oil change, runs like a scalded cat and pulls the 20' champion with ease.
will never buy another gm product under any circumstances, don't have a problem with toys but won't own one due to the low mileage, my 5.0 gets 15.5 avg and for a 4x4 I am happy.
Heck my Tundra does better than that but there are too many variables to do an accurate comparison. Type of driving, how you drive (mostly gentle except when some idiot in a Dodge Charger thinks he can jump in front of me at a stoplight), mods such as lift and mainly tires, and probably something that I am not thinking of. tuned 5.0 coyote, 33" a/t, 3:55 diffs/6 speed auto, approx. 475 hp at flywheel, for what I have 15.5 is good by me. almost all my driving is at 55 or better, 95% maybe. this is by far the best and most fun truck I have had in a long time.
Last edited by hopalong; 01/23/20 01:52 PM.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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01/23/20 10:27 PM
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What kind of tune are you running? Any other mods? Turbo? Cam???? 115 HP gain is pretty huge for just a tune.
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