The method ISN'T being overblown - that's the reason why it is cheating. Making teams use more complicated signs is not the answer. Hammer the Astros for cheating is the answer. Loss of multiple draft picks and fines should be the punishment. Loss of their top 5 picks this summer and some the next year should be plenty deterrent for other teams to reconsider cheating like this.

JR

The 5th game of the World Series was won by Houston, 13 - 12. I wonder if both teams were stealing signs.

Speaking of beating on things; I hate when the Astros have to play the Athletics. Apparently, they promote bringing plastic buckets to their games.

YES it is...cheating is cheating. Stealing signs is stealing signs...regardless of HOW.

Luhnow was involved in the 2015 Cardinals scandal and now his name comes up again with the Stros allegations.

I, respectfully, decline. If you don’t care, don’t comment. And don’t get upset when someone points out that your comment about not caring has no place here and sounds like whining, because that’s what it is. If you don’t care, you’d ignore it. That’s just good advice. And it’s free.

And just like that Justin Verlander wins AL Cy Young...while whining about juiced baseball's

I’ve gotta agree on the cheating part. I don’t know about the punishment part, but it’s clearly cheating. And it’s above and beyond the normal gamesmanship and very clearly against the rules. Blatantly so.

Hmmm yet you don't hear current Dodger organization personnel saying much...

What are they going to say? "Give us our title!!"? They cheated so give it to us? That wont happen. So what is to say?

On another note Darvish has accepted about 100k apologies on tweeter lol. Guys who bashed him for costing us the WS are now saying "my bad", looks like they cheated you. And it makes sense...they hit Darvish in that game 7 like they knew what was coming...and they did. Freaking garbage organization.

I'm not seeing the problem, so they tried a little harder than everyone else.

That's the point. They do not want to bring attention their way either. I have no loyalty to either team but the naivity that surrounds this with nothing more than Fiers wanting attention is insane. I will state it again and certainly do not condone it but every orgnization is using tactics to gain an edge. Winter meetings are in 3 weeks in San Diego. I doubt MLB will do anything before then but it will be interesting to see what comes out of those meetings leading to pitchers/catchers reporting 6 weeks later.

Has anyone asked about the timing of this in regards to Nolan's departure?

No way anyone had the balls to steal Nolans signs after the Ventura incident

Good thing Nolan jumped off before that ship sinks.

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