More and more scientist are distancing themselves from the "evolution as we know it" theory. DNA is becoming more and more of an issue. Because DNA is programmed. Like a PC our body parts is the hardware but who put all the ones and zeros in perfect order to program it? Except DNA is infinitely more complex, hell a single cell is more complex then a computer. How many billions of years would it take for a PC to finally form by random technological mutation and then intelligently program itself? It is improbable mathematically even with infinite time. Faith is required just as much in science as in religion.

So much wrongness in these statements.

Wow...that's insightful.


Very insightful thanks for your opinion.

In Revelations Chapter 20 it says that two books were open and then the Book of Life. The dead were judged by what they did, meaning to me the first two unnamed books are the good and bad deeds recorded. Continuing on it says that whoever name is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire. I believe that everyone's name starts out in the Book of Life. Read Luke 10:20. In the Old Testament both Moses and David asked God to blot the names of their enemies out of the "book", which I believe is the Book of Life. John 3:16 says "whoever believes in Him (Christ) will not perish but have eternal life". It becomes necessary then to confess that belief and follow. To do that you must be able to understand what it means. Now, what about those aborted, babies, children, the mentally challenged that had no understanding of what is necessary to follow Christ? I do not believe because of their innocence God would cast these into the lake of fire anyway, but their names must be in the Book of Life to fulfill the Word. Since God knew this their names are already in the Book of Life and will not blot them out because they never had a chance to believe. Therefore they will be waiting on us in heaven. Those that never confessed or believed in Christ at an accountable age, their names will be blotted out at the time of their death after giving them the chance up to death.

So those that died prior to Christ, their names are in the Book of Life unless blotted out by God. Remember they had the sacrificial opportunities for the forgiveness of sin.
One man's understanding of scripture.

Law of Moses had to keep the law. God is the ultimate judge.

Jesus said no one gets to the father except thru me....so the way I understand it Jesus is saying the only way to heaven is thru him....my question What about the time before the birth of Jesus .How did people get to heaven ?

First read Genesis 1:26

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Who do you think God was talking to when he said “Let us make man in our image” . God was talking to Jesus cause Jesus was with God from the beginning . In the bible Jesus says when you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father . God and Jesus are one and the Trinity is God the Father , Jesus and the Holy Ghost . You are correct when you stated Jesus said no one gets to the father except thru me....so the way I understand it Jesus is saying the only way to heaven is thru him .

Now what happened to those who believe in God in the Old Testament when they died ?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 NIV
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

This happens at the beginning of the Tribulations because Believers in Christ will not be on earth during the Tribulations . We will rise at the Trumpet Call and meet Jesus in the clouds . You can study this all in the book of Revelations which is the last book of the bible and was written for the believer . Believers will be with Christ until Judgement day which is after the 7 yrs of Tribulations .

So to pinpoint your question “What happened to believers before Christ that died ? The Dead In Christ Will Rise First , that’s everyone that was a believer from the beginning of the creation of man up to the time of the Trumpet call !

Pre Tribulation Fasle Doctrine- Doctrine of the Devil!

Jesus said no one gets to the father except thru me....so the way I understand it Jesus is saying the only way to heaven is thru him....my question What about the time before the birth of Jesus .How did people get to heaven ?