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John 14::6 question
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11/07/19 05:50 PM
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Jesus said no one gets to the father except thru me....so the way I understand it Jesus is saying the only way to heaven is thru him....my question What about the time before the birth of Jesus .How did people get to heaven ?
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 05:52 PM
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before him it was by living by God's laws
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 05:56 PM
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 05:56 PM
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Law of Moses had to keep the law. God is the ultimate judge.
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 06:06 PM
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Derek ๐
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 06:10 PM
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions The Bible says once one is Heaven that mysteries will be answered. Ecclesiastes 3:11 โHe has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into manโs heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.โ (this last phrase is important. Read more: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/8-favorite-bible-verses-about-gods-timing/#ixzz64cI3r88jI personally believe God did things over time, a long time. Created the Earth, in his order of things. Humans were last. The Bible also say God's timing is not the same as ours II Peter 3:8
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 06:11 PM
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 06:16 PM
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions Way, way before. Jesus was on earth approximately 2000 years ago. The Dino extinction began approx. 245 million years ago and the last Dinos died about 65 million years ago. Good chance the first Dino's may have been created during the 6 days that God created the heavens and the earth.
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 07:02 PM
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 08:44 PM
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Before him you had to keep the law to "earn" your way if you will. But no one could keep the law. Jesus sacrifice allowed those who were faithful and believed to have their sins covered by his blood as well. So they "get to the Father" through him as well.
I hope that helps.
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 09:13 PM
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Following the law of God before Jesus wouldn't save you anymore then following it today. God's law was put forth to show the futility of man trying to earn his way into heaven, it is impossible to follow God's law. Jesus wasn't contradicting himself, when he said no man enters heaven but through me.
Paul said, โWhom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committedโ Romans 3:25 God could pass over these sins previously committed because in his mind Jesus had already paid the price.
Before Jesus folks were saved on the basis of His death. But it required faith as it does today, faith that Jesus was going to come and pay for your sins. 2000 years before Christ, Job said, "I know that my Redeemer lives, and He shall stand at last on the earth. And after my skin is destroyed, this I know, that in my flesh I shall see Godโ Job 19:25-26
Avoid putting a timeline on God as he doesn't live in the constraints of the time that he created for us. If you exist out of time then you have always been. At the Mount of Olives the Pharisees thought Jesus was demon possesed because he spoke of the past, this confused them and rightly so. But Jesus spoke the truth. They said to him, โYou are not yet fifty years old and you have seen Abraham!โ Jesus replied, โVery truly I tell you before Abraham was born, I am!โ John 8:57-58
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 09:17 PM
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions Way, way before. Jesus was on earth approximately 2000 years ago. The Dino extinction began approx. 245 million years ago and the last Dinos died about 65 million years ago. Good chance the first Dino's may have been created during the 6 days that God created the heavens and the earth. Day 6
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 09:19 PM
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Bentman63
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions Way, way before. Jesus was on earth approximately 2000 years ago. The Dino extinction began approx. 245 million years ago and the last Dinos died about 65 million years ago. Good chance the first Dino's may have been created during the 6 days that God created the heavens and the earth. Day 6 If Adam was the first man, then was he a caveman?
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 09:51 PM
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I want to know if dinosaurs were before or after Jesus. If the earth was void with darkness , then when were the dinosaurs here?
so many questions Way, way before. Jesus was on earth approximately 2000 years ago. The Dino extinction began approx. 245 million years ago and the last Dinos died about 65 million years ago. Good chance the first Dino's may have been created during the 6 days that God created the heavens and the earth. Day 6 If Adam was the first man, then was he a caveman? Science can explain away lots of things especially things that contradict their narrative. For example intact 75 million year old red blood cells and proteins in bones. We are talking hemoglobin, collagen and soft tissue surviving for 75 million years!! You ask a scientist before this was discovered he'd say with certainty it would be impossible! But now it has been discovered, science can explain it away! Like those star trek show with a bunch of techno/psudeo science babble. More and more scientist are distancing themselves from the "evolution as we know it" theory. DNA is becoming more and more of an issue. Because DNA is programmed. Like a PC our body parts is the hardware but who put all the ones and zeros in perfect order to program it? Except DNA is infinitely more complex, hell a single cell is more complex then a computer. How many billions of years would it take for a PC to finally form by random technological mutation and then intelligently program itself? It is improbable mathematically even with infinite time. Faith is required just as much in science as in religion.
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Re: John 15:6 question
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11/07/19 09:54 PM
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Tell me more about this hemoglobin you speak of. I think I might enjoy hemoglobin talk.
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