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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13275333 09/09/19 04:45 PM
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Call me at. 325-998-6077 Curtis Johnson. Elite Power Systems. We sell 4 brands of batteries. Lithium Pro, Battleborn, Lithium Battery Power & EPS. We sell package deals also or individual components to get your upgrade started to fit your available budget. IF you want information on differences (why some cost more, proper applications) I’d be happy to help you out. We are located in Granbury Texas & Heartland Texas. Our website is LithiumRage.com
You can also pm me here on TFF. TFF is a fantastic forum for everything fishing!

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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13275380 09/09/19 05:19 PM
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One of the MOST important things to know is : is the cell construction “prismatic” or “cylindrical”. That’s where the biggest price differences occur along with other things


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13275536 09/09/19 08:59 PM
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Curt above is very knowledgeable and can set a man up with a great system. Call him with questions.


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13276036 09/10/19 05:24 AM
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bp74,it’s NOT a bad idea at all. You ALWAYS want capability to crank big motor at anytime just to move OR in an emergency situation. I STILL carry one,but it’s not for me anymore. It’s for helping others in that situation. It’s easier, lighter, & smaller than toting jumper cables. Another application for a prismatic cell type battery. It’s a great temporary fix to a power issue, but doesn’t SOLVE the power issue you are describing. So, until you get the power in the boat to run all the systems without running out of power, Just make sure your Li jumper is charged fully every trip. The problem will continue to worsen as your batteries keep getting drawn down to deep discharge levels and use more charge cycles & that will definitely shorten the lifespan of your current batteries. Deep discharge is very hard on batteries,in that they lose their abilities & efficiency to charge & hold highest power levels. After 1 year, that conventional battery rated at 100Ah is only going produce 80% of that. In 2 years it will be closer to 50-60%. As I said, the Li jumper is a great temporary fix for short term uses. Conventional lead acid or AGM batteries have life expectancy of 2-350 charge cycles. Lithium batteries have 3,000 or more charge cycles when properly charged. Of course Lithium cost more at purchase ,but, your not just getting longer lifespan of 8-10 years. All the other benefits are gained, especially in dumping weight your motor/trolling motor has to push & pull. Less battery usage each trip because there’s less weight to move or hold in the wind. Graphs on all day, Livewells ran constantly in hot months, etc... give me a call at(325) 998-6077 & we can help you get the info you may want. Correct gauge & type of wiring for graphs is also a good start to get started.

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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13276071 09/10/19 11:06 AM
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When using lithium for your 36v TM .Are you using three 12 v in series or a single 36v battery? What are the pros and cons of each setup?

Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: toofy] #13276324 09/10/19 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by toofy
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I put in a 125 ah ionic lithium battery. I used it for the first time Saturday to make sure it would start my motor etc. next is a full tournament day with everything running. I’m anxious to test it fully


I got the same battery for my electronics/starter. And then 3 of the 100ah for trolling. I love it because it has a bluetooth phone app so you can see the state of charge for every battery. I removed a set of Lithium Pros batteries (two 110ah and two 36v 40ah) because there as no easy way to tell the state of charge. They recommended a Victron battery guage but it will only show 1 battery.


Are you using the Ionic deep cycle battery from lithiumhub for starting?

I was going to roll with the relion 100HP (dual purpose) but Ionic is about $300 cheaper.



Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13277507 09/11/19 04:16 PM
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I went with the Ionci batterys and purchase from drew-tek, they have a sale going on now and they have package pricing.

I bought 3-12v 50a for the Ultrex and 1-12v 125a for the cranking. I did not have to by a new charger as my Minnkota Precision charger would work, just set them to AGM. I like the fact that you can check the status of each battery via bluetooth. I put each one on a charger to be identified and then renamed each one so I know which is which. And they charge very quickly. I do not charge them until the night before I am to fish the next day.


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13277528 09/11/19 04:33 PM
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Elite Power Systems have 12V Lithium batteries that can be used to create 24V Systems (using 2) OR (3)for 36V systems. If using 3 in series, the AH's are added. Example: 3-35Ah batteries give you 105 Ah rating.
We ALSO have single 24V & 36V batteries. You get the Ah rating that the single battery has. Example 36V 100 Ah= 100Ah's.
The SINGLE battery is the same dimensions of Group31 conventional batteries.
A single 24V OR 36V battery is used to reduce space taken up by batteries. If you have tight quarters in the Battery compartment, then you would want the single battery. Its amazing when you only have 1-36V100Ah 1250CCA,1-36V100Ah for TM,& 1-Stealth Charge system in the back & Total combined weight is only 67#'s. You won't run out of TM power OR Cranking power while running 2-3 Graphs,livewells, Power Poles or Talons.Lithium batteries charge 3-5x's faster, so 20 minute run time of outboard equals 1hr to 1 hr40minutes charge time ON THE WATER. Go to our website & watch the test on the water of a single 36V100Ah & ALSO the 3-12V 35Ah systems. The batteries were at same level of V at end of day, as at start. The Cranking battery actually GAINED .2V's.
Wouldn't it be great if when you put the boat on trailer at end of day,your batteries are already at 90-100% charged? That's EXACTLY what this does!! THE GAUGE DOESNT LIE.


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: Curtbass] #13277591 09/11/19 05:20 PM
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Elite Power Systems have [quote=Curtbass] Elite Power Systems have 12V Lithium batteries that can be used to create 24V Systems (using 2) OR (3)for 36V systems. If using 3 in series, the AH's are added. Example: 3-35Ah batteries give you 105 Ah rating.
We ALSO have single 24V & 36V batteries. You get the Ah rating that the single battery has. Example 36V 100 Ah= 100Ah's.


I'm not trying to start anything. I just want everyone to know the correct information. When you series batteries the voltage adds up but not the amperage. And when you parallel batteries the amperage adds up but not the voltage. You can only add up either the voltage or amperage not both. Example 3 12 volt 50 ah batteries in series would be 36 volts and 50 ah. 3 12 volt 50 ah batteries in parallel would be 12 volts 150ah.

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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: Curtbass] #13277599 09/11/19 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtbass
OR (3)for 36V systems. If using 3 in series, the AH's are added. Example: 3-35Ah batteries give you 105 Ah rating.


I wish it worked that way^^^.


My 3 55ah relion in series creates 36v with 55ah.


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: Jeff From Iowa] #13277603 09/11/19 05:32 PM
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I think everyone does. Lol

Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: Jeff From Iowa] #13277624 09/11/19 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff From Iowa
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OR (3)for 36V systems. If using 3 in series, the AH's are added. Example: 3-35Ah batteries give you 105 Ah rating.


I wish it worked that way^^^.


My 3 55ah relion in series creates 36v with 55ah.

It’s still pretty impressive that your 36v 55ah lithium battery system significantly outperforms your old 36v 105ah traditional batteries.

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OR (3)for 36V systems. If using 3 in series, the AH's are added. Example: 3-35Ah batteries give you 105 Ah rating.


I wish it worked that way^^^.


My 3 55ah relion in series creates 36v with 55ah.

It’s still pretty impressive that your 36v 55ah lithium battery system significantly outperforms your old 36v 105ah traditional batteries.



yes way out performs, no drop off, so I use my tm on .75-2 all day vs standard batteries I would end up on 6 by the end of a 8 hour day


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Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13277835 09/11/19 09:26 PM
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It's funny this post is here. I ordered a lithium battery for this exact purpose, and it just came in yesterday. I got a 12v/105ah. It will be designated for the electronics only. I'll give results after I use it a couple trips.

Re: Lithium Battery Question [Re: bp74] #13277871 09/11/19 10:00 PM
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this information is very interesting


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