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Garmin Panoptix LiveScope #12943626 10/24/18 02:23 AM
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I Installed a Garmin unit with LiveScope yesterday on a Daniel Langston' boat and we went out to put it through the paces. In short, all I can say is that in the two hours we spent on the water I do not want to fish on another boat without it. Wow!! what a game changer. It is like playing pool and calling your shot.
We only hit 4-5 spots and I am sure if we ran the course we would have come across stuff that was choked full of Crappie.
What amazed me the most was how straight out of the box and with two easy adjustments to the settings we were targeting and picking fish off of limbs. In looking back at the video where I said those must be bubbles, I am now believing we may have knocked off some algae on the limb and it was rising which it stirred up the fish just before it bit. Amazing to finally see what has been happening below all these years of Crappie fishing and now be able to dial in things and pinpoint my bait where it should be instead of hoping I am in the right area. This my friends have increased my bite ratio as I can see where to place my bait in the strike zone. The unit you see in the video is that of the Garmin 1222 GPSMAP w/out transducer and teamed up with Garmin the LiveScope. I am putting Package three on my boat this week.
I have 50 + LiveScope in stock/available and you can review the link below for a compatible unit/display to go with it.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/591379#devices

You will need to turn your head sideways to the right. Sorry for the poor video. We will get more coming in the near future. Enjoy!!!


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How much for one ...installed? nuts

I guess the 360 is obsolete now? Is Lowrance coming out with something better?


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Here are three packages. There are other display models to choose from as well. See the link below for a compatible list for Garmin units/displays that work with the Panoptix LiveScope. Installation is flat rate $199.00 per graph.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/591379#devices


Package one:

Garmin echoMAP CHIRP Plus 93sv US LakeV w/CV52HW-TM Transducer
010-01901-01
$999.99

GARMIN GCV 20 ULTRA HD SCANNING SONAR BLACK BOX W/GT34UHD-TM ULTRA HD TRANSOM MOUNT TRANSDUCER
010-02055-00
$599.99

GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
010-01864-00
$1499.99

Total package...$3099.97

This package will require both the CV52HW-TM Transducer and the GT34UHD-TM ULTRA HD-TM MOUNT TRANSDUCER. This package requires the mounting of both transducers and both modules. This will give you greater imaging in sidevu and downvu, greater target separation, 455kHz, 800kHz, and 1.2mHz (Yes MegaHerts) Plus Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD Maps





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Package two:

Garmin echoMAP CHIRP Plus 93sv US LakeV w/CV52HW-TM Transducer
010-01901-01
$999.99

GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
010-01864-00
$1499.99

Total package...$2499.98

This package will require the CV52HW-TM Transducer and will give you high wide CHIRP traditional sonar plus CHIRP ClearV and CHIRP SideV scanning sonars, 455kHz and 800kHz, Plus Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD Maps





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Package three:

Garmin echoMAP CHIRP Plus 93sv US LakeV w/o Transducer
010-01901-00
$849.99

GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
010-01864-00
$1499.99

Total package...$2349.98

This package will give you Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD Ma






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Re: Garmin Panoptix LiveScope [Re: shut-up-and-fish] #12943880 10/24/18 12:38 PM
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Wow, what next ?!!

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I'm waiting to see what Lowrance brings to the table, and if Motorguide will have something to match the Ultrex in a tour edition model.

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this shows how tight these fish can be to the brush. it seems when they are like this they are like this on most brush you check. If I check a few piles and cant see fish on them, I always stop and fish something because you can pass up plenty of fish.


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Each package is $200 to install..correct

I'm all in, but being from Missouri I'm going to wait a while and read some reviews, and
I'll want to see one personally in action first. I have a Garmin 93 SV and love it.
The 'show me" tells me to wait and see how the fishermen like them. jim

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By the time folks get this mounted on the boat and comfortable with it the next best thing will be out! Vicious cycle!! roflmao

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Originally Posted By: JIM SR.
Each package is $200 to install..correct

I'm all in, but being from Missouri I'm going to wait a while and read some reviews, and
I'll want to see one personally in action first. I have a Garmin 93 SV and love it.
The 'show me" tells me to wait and see how the fishermen like them. jim


Yes Jim, $199.00 per graph

I will get with you once I have this on my boat (this week) and we can hit Grapevine.

Package three:

Garmin echoMAP CHIRP Plus 93sv US LakeV w/o Transducer
010-01901-00
$849.99

GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
010-01864-00
$1499.99

Total package...$2349.98

This package will give you Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD Ma




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Originally Posted By: Slewfoot
By the time folks get this mounted on the boat and comfortable with it the next best thing will be out! Vicious cycle!! roflmao


Installed a Garmin unit with LiveScope yesterday on Daniel Langston' boat and we went out to put it through the paces. In short, all I can say is that in the two hours we spent on the water I do not want to fish on another boat without it. Wow!! what a game changer. It is like playing pool and calling your shot.
We only hit 4-5 spots and I am sure if we ran the course we would have come across stuff that was choked full of Crappie. What amazed me the most was how straight out of the box and with two easy adjustments to the settings we were targeting and picking fish off of limbs. In looking back at the video where I said those must be bubbles, I am now believing we may have knocked off some algae from the limb and it was rising which it stirred up the fish just before it bit.
What amazed me the most was how straight out of the box and with two easy adjustments to the settings we were targeting and picking fish off of limbs. In looking back at the video where I said those must be bubbles, I am now believing we may have knocked off some algae on the limb and it was rising which it stirred up the fish just before it bit. Amazing to finally see what has been happening below all these years of Crappie fishing and now be able to dial in things and pinpoint my bait where it should be instead of hoping I am in the right area. This my friends have increased my bite ratio as I can see where to place my bait in the strike zone. The unit you see in the video is that of the Garmin 1222 GPSMAP w/out transducer and teamed up with Garmin the LiveScope. I am putting Package three on my boat this week.


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That is amazing. May have to re-think what route I was going to go for electronics.

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I didn't know Garmin had moved into the 1.2 MHZ realm. awful tempting. 1.2 mhz on my Humminbird MEGA is amazing compared to 800hz


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Originally Posted By: Bassthumb: Phill's Guide Svc
I didn't know Garmin had moved into the 1.2 MHZ realm. awful tempting. 1.2 mhz on my Humminbird MEGA is amazing compared to 800hz


Yes, sir, Garmin covers the 1.25MHz

99% of the time I am on 455kHz because it has a farther range out to the left and right over 800kHz and 1.25MHz

Here is an example from my Solix unit...

As you can see the 455Khz has broader shoulders. Once I find fish and or structure I will hit the cursor freezing the screen and then go into 800KhZ and 1.25MHz and adjust my sensitivity and contrast.







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Installed a Garmin unit with LiveScope yesterday on Daniel Langston' boat and we went out today to put it through the paces. In short, all I can say is that in the two hours we spent on the water I do not want to fish on another boat without it. Wow!! what a game changer. It is like playing pool and calling your shot.
Here is a short video. The video is not the greatest and we plan on getting back on the water soon and make something better. We only hit 4-5 spots and I am sure if we ran the course we would have come across stuff that was choked full of Crappie.
I have 50 + LiveScope in stock/available and you can review the link below for a compatible unit/display to go with it.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/591379#devices

You will need to turn your head sideways to the right. Sorry for the poor video. We will get more coming in the near future. Enjoy!!!
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Any word on what Humminbird has to up their sleeve that will be live as well? We all know its coming just a matter of when.


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Originally Posted By: DavisGuideService
Any word on what Humminbird has to up their sleeve that will be live as well? We all know its coming just a matter of when.


Garmin has rocked the boat with LiveScope. Lowrance is coming out with a new line. Elite Ti2 and HDS Live, Active Imaging, and LiveSight. I do not yet have the details to share at this time. Humminbird is also coming out with a new line. Helix GN3 and Solix GN2 There line will be MDI for Mega down image as well as MSI for Mega side image and a DS. Hmmm I wonder what "DS" will be. I do not yet have the details to share at this time.


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You know I hate you, right? Why are you always trying to get me to spend my money? roflmao

Anyone who gets this graph needs to give David a call!!! I see the customer service that he gives on each sale and you won't find that anywhere else. He is there for the sell, installations and support so you are taking care of from start to finish.


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Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
You know I hate you, right? Why are you always trying to get me to spend my money? roflmao

Anyone who gets this graph needs to give David a call!!! I see the customer service that he gives on each sale and you won't find that anywhere else. He is there for the sell, installations and support so you are taking care of from start to finish.


Thank you Ron.

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Garmin echoMAP CHIRP Plus 93sv US LakeV w/o Transducer
010-01901-00
$849.99

GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
010-01864-00
$1499.99

Total package...$2349.98

This package will give you Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD Ma





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I could see the heartbeat and that little thing right there means its a boy. banana

Actually this is pretty cool. Cant wait to see if Humminbird answers the call.


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It's cool, really cool....but it's just not why I fish.... I don't want to play x box....to each his own


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Originally Posted By: NitroGlistenin
I could see the heartbeat and that little thing right there means its a boy. banana

Actually this is pretty cool. Cant wait to see if Humminbird answers the call.


It is really cool...Garmin rocked the boat and both Lowrance and Humminbird are scrambling to compete. Yes it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
It's cool, really cool....but it's just not why I fish.... I don't want to play x box....to each his own


I said the exact same thing until I finally saw it in person. It is now on my boat and I do not care to fish on a boat without it.


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The first video on this thread made me want one bad. The second video makes me glad I didnt buy one. The first one looks like a mega on simulator at Cabelas and then you buy it and can never replicate what you saw at the store?

Whats the difference in videos. The first one is clearly a tree, jig and fish swimming buy it. The second one looks like a ghosted image of something but not good?

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heres something I used to teach abt sonar.. THERE IS NO SET IT AND FORGET IT SETTING. the conditions are not static. plankton, silt, uv light penetration, bottom composition, lake turn over, wave action, propeller bubbles, and on and on all affect the picture. knowing how to tweak your unit on the fly is key, if you want the best returns. get familiar with your unit. SENSITIVITY and CONTRAST .. also beam selection is importantas well as chart speed .. on humminbird PING SPEED and CHART speed are usually linked, so if you listen to the myth of setting your chart speed to boat speed, your missing out.. its like a painter painting a picture really slow. you get less detail.. crank the chaRT /PING SPEED UP, AND YOU GET alot more detail. little things such as realizing which way your propeller spins and mounting the transducer on the opposite side can make a difference..


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Definitely looks cool but I would have to agree with not wanting to look at the screen the whole time. I am still trying to get a spot lock trolling motor lol

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Originally Posted By: leanin post
heres something I used to teach abt sonar.. THERE IS NO SET IT AND FORGET IT SETTING. the conditions are not static. plankton, silt, uv light penetration, bottom composition, lake turn over, wave action, propeller bubbles, and on and on all affect the picture. knowing how to tweak your unit on the fly is key, if you want the best returns. get familiar with your unit. SENSITIVITY and CONTRAST .. also beam selection is importantas well as chart speed .. on humminbird PING SPEED and CHART speed are usually linked, so if you listen to the myth of setting your chart speed to boat speed, your missing out.. its like a painter painting a picture really slow. you get less detail.. crank the chaRT /PING SPEED UP, AND YOU GET alot more detail. little things such as realizing which way your propeller spins and mounting the transducer on the opposite side can make a difference..
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Originally Posted By: NitroGlistenin
I could see the heartbeat and that little thing right there means its a boy. banana

Actually this is pretty cool. Cant wait to see if Humminbird answers the call.


It is really cool...Garmin rocked the boat and both Lowrance and Humminbird are scrambling to compete. Yes it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
It's cool, really cool....but it's just not why I fish.... I don't want to play x box....to each his own


I said the exact same thing until I finally saw it in person. It is now on my boat and I do not care to fish on a boat without it.


I do fine with two old well tuned 597's


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Is there a video? It's not showing up (not even a link to it) on this thread (at least on my end).


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I understand adjusting the settings. I have three helixs (12, 9 and 7) and I adjust them each time out to tweak them.

The first video is good the second is weak. Seeing how hes selling them I figured it would be tweaked. If it is why is there so much difference between the two?

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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
The first video on this thread made me want one bad. The second video makes me glad I didnt buy one. The first one looks like a mega on simulator at Cabelas and then you buy it and can never replicate what you saw at the store?

Whats the difference in videos. The first one is clearly a tree, jig and fish swimming buy it. The second one looks like a ghosted image of something but not good?


The first video is from a customers unit we installed and got on the water to play around with the unit. We were fishing a tree even though you hear us say they are down in the brush it was a tree. The unit was from a 1222 12" display.
The second video is from an echoMap 93sv that I installed on my boat. I was out by myself so I could not get video of me dropping the jig right on the fish. I was fishing a small brush pile and it was loaded with fish.
Sorry, you have mixed feelings. The good news is that as a consumer you have a choice in which electronics you chose. Garmin rocked the boat with Panoptix LiveSchope and they have Lowrance and Humminbird scrambling to compete. It will be interesting to see how they respond.


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Originally Posted By: fishin'aholic2
Definitely looks cool but I would have to agree with not wanting to look at the screen the whole time. I am still trying to get a spot lock trolling motor lol


I said the same thing until I saw it for the first time live. Now I do not what to be on a boat without it.


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Originally Posted By: txmasterpo

I do fine with two old well tuned 597's


It is a consumer preference. My 2 cents...If you are doing good with what you have you will do even better with LiveScope.


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Originally Posted By: Lollygagger
Is there a video? It's not showing up (not even a link to it) on this thread (at least on my end).


Yes, there are two videos in this post.


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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
I understand adjusting the settings. I have three helixs (12, 9 and 7) and I adjust them each time out to tweak them.

The first video is good the second is weak. Seeing how hes selling them I figured it would be tweaked. If it is why is there so much difference between the two?


I did not have the unit set up at the time of the video. Go back and look. When I pan out I have 1/2 the display occupied with a setting page and my depth range on the left isn't adjusted as well.
I have been in Jury duty all week (lucky me) I am hopefully going to be on the water tomorrow and or Saturday and hope to get more video on the 93sv.
My customers are not just a number or a sale. I am here before, during, and after the sale. No gimmicks to be had here.


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Originally Posted By: shut-up-and-fish
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The first video on this thread made me want one bad. The second video makes me glad I didnt buy one. The first one looks like a mega on simulator at Cabelas and then you buy it and can never replicate what you saw at the store?

Whats the difference in videos. The first one is clearly a tree, jig and fish swimming buy it. The second one looks like a ghosted image of something but not good?


The first video is from a customers unit we installed and got on the water to play around with the unit. We were fishing a tree even though you hear us say they are down in the brush it was a tree. The unit was from a 1222 12" display.
The second video is from an echoMap 93sv that I installed on my boat. I was out by myself so I could not get video of me dropping the jig right on the fish. I was fishing a small brush pile and it was loaded with fish.
Sorry, you have mixed feelings. The good news is that as a consumer you have a choice in which electronics you chose. Garmin rocked the boat with Panoptix LiveSchope and they have Lowrance and Humminbird scrambling to compete. It will be interesting to see how they respond.


David, do you need to run your trolling motor with a foot control in order to keep the transducer pointed in the right direction? Thinking the spot lock might spin and get it off target.


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Originally Posted By: SLABXPRESS
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The first video on this thread made me want one bad. The second video makes me glad I didnt buy one. The first one looks like a mega on simulator at Cabelas and then you buy it and can never replicate what you saw at the store?

Whats the difference in videos. The first one is clearly a tree, jig and fish swimming buy it. The second one looks like a ghosted image of something but not good?


The first video is from a customers unit we installed and got on the water to play around with the unit. We were fishing a tree even though you hear us say they are down in the brush it was a tree. The unit was from a 1222 12" display.
The second video is from an echoMap 93sv that I installed on my boat. I was out by myself so I could not get video of me dropping the jig right on the fish. I was fishing a small brush pile and it was loaded with fish.
Sorry, you have mixed feelings. The good news is that as a consumer you have a choice in which electronics you chose. Garmin rocked the boat with Panoptix LiveSchope and they have Lowrance and Humminbird scrambling to compete. It will be interesting to see how they respond.


David, do you need to run your trolling motor with a foot control in order to keep the transducer pointed in the right direction? Thinking the spot lock might spin and get it off target.


Great question, I find that manually running the foot pedal to have control vs spot lock to keep the pedal/ transducer pointed in the direction of my structure is best. I am actually working on a kit that allows me to mount the transducer to a stand-alone shaft that can be manually deployed and rotated. This way I can pull up to my structure and then hit spot lock then deploy my transducer and keep it pointed towards my structure.


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That was my next question. That kit would be sweet. Will it be similar to the hummingbird 360? My ulterra on spot lock is always turning so I was wondering how I would be able to watch the brush pile but that would fix it.

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Information for the Fishing specialties mount assembly. It rotates easily yet holds firmly in its baseplate assembly.

http://fishingspecialties.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F3d-livescope-bowducer-assembly

This Bowducer assembly allows for Lowrance 3D as well as the new Garmin LiveScope transducer. Livescope transducer is mounted to the bottom of the downrod with a custom connection. Cables for both run through the downrod. The downrod assembly is 1.5 inches OD.

This system allows for either a set orientation when deployed or can be swiveled within its cup assembly for scanning (ie with Livescope or Panoptix transducers).

Due to the size of the downrod with this mount, the all aluminum baseplate is very highly recommended due to is higher overall strength.

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this technology will have many uses, just think for divers working underwater, they can have someone topside helping them navigate stained water with audio. like welding underwater .


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Bad to the bone. Have one on mine and will never have one without it.


Similar...We have bent the shaft on that one before. Ours will have a fiberglass shaft on a ram mount which is much more forgiving if and when you bump a stump.


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When will your mount be available for sale?

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When will your mount be available for sale?


Not real sure. It is actually Steve with are you lit who assists me in the shop with our installs. He is actually developing the mount. I have been using the prototyp and it works very well.


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Originally Posted by shut-up-and-fish
Originally Posted by Slab Killa
I understand adjusting the settings. I have three helixs (12, 9 and 7) and I adjust them each time out to tweak them.

The first video is good the second is weak. Seeing how hes selling them I figured it would be tweaked. If it is why is there so much difference between the two?


I did not have the unit set up at the time of the video. Go back and look. When I pan out I have 1/2 the display occupied with a setting page and my depth range on the left isn't adjusted as well.
I have been in Jury duty all week (lucky me) I am hopefully going to be on the water tomorrow and or Saturday and hope to get more video on the 93sv.
My customers are not just a number or a sale. I am here before, during, and after the sale. No gimmicks to be had here.



I have things "Tweaked" a bit better for this video. It may not be able to get the fish to bite but the Garmin LiveScope continues to amaze me in clarity, and the ability to pinpoint bait presentation and accuracy. Here you see a tandem jig set up with a barrel swivel. You can see each one individually.

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GARMIN PANOPTIX LIVESCOPE SYSTEM
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This package will give you Panoptix LiveScope. You get both LiveScope Down and LiveScope Forward modes in one transducer (trolling motor or transom mounted LiveScope Transducer) Preloaded LakeV HD



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Why cant I ever see these videos. All I see is a black screen.

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Originally Posted By: Dr. Drop
Why cant I ever see these videos. All I see is a black screen.


Not sure...

Can you click on the link below and see it?

https://youtu.be/lLz7S30pQEk


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Would love to be a beta tester to compare.


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So Im confused? You tweaked it to where you can watch your jigs but the brush is barely dicernible?

I thought the point was to be able to pinpoint the fish in the brush? I just saw a double jig and a barrel swivel being bounced around something on the bottom of the lake.

Maybe this is another case of having to play with the settings on each outing

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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
So Im confused? You tweaked it to where you can watch your jigs but the brush is barely dicernible?

I thought the point was to be able to pinpoint the fish in the brush? I just saw a double jig and a barrel swivel being bounced around something on the bottom of the lake.

Maybe this is another case of having to play with the settings on each outing


Maybe...


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Why cant I ever see these videos. All I see is a black screen.


Not sure...

Can you click on the link below and see it?

https://youtu.be/lLz7S30pQEk

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Originally Posted By: Dr. Drop
Why cant I ever see these videos. All I see is a black screen.


Open the TFF with Chrome and you can see them.


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Guys - you can see the brush well and the fish in there. I believe a lot of it is where the transducer is actually pointed as far as the image that you will see. We would move the pole a little and the tree would light up. I was also fishing at 16 foot when a school of fish swam through at 6 feet so I raised my jigs into them and watched them scatter like roaches when you turn the lights on. Biggest thing I took away from it was when I watched a fish swim up to my jig and just look at it for ten seconds and then it just swam away. That told me I need to switch colors, size, presentation, etc. because what I chose that day was not what the crappie were wanting.

I like to think of it as another tool in the tool box. Sure, you may not always need it but when you do, it will be well worth having it available.

And I do recommend talking to David with Shut Up and Fish if you are interested in one. I have seen his level of service and you can't get no better!!!


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Just wondering if the power or frequency of these new depth finders disturbs the fish to the point that they don't bite or swim away. I have heard of some old timers finding the fish on the depth finders and then turning it off so that way they can catch more. Any thoughts?


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Just wondering if the power or frequency of these new depth finders disturbs the fish to the point that they don't bite or swim away. I have heard of some old timers finding the fish on the depth finders and then turning it off so that way they can catch more. Any thoughts?


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As a Crappie Angler, I am finding the Garmin Panoptix to be a bit more productive to me. Pinpoint accuracy in jig placement is simply amazing and important in getting bit.


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It doesn't appear to replace the ability of the 360 to find stuff to fish but being able to see the fish and bring your jig to them is nice! I find good submerged stuff all the time with the 360 while I'm fishing something else.

Wonder if it stings a little more with Livescope when you can see them down there and not get them to bite! IT's bad enough with the 360. hammer

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Do you have a video of you placing your jig and getting bit?

Only ones Ive seen is a fuzzy image of something and some jigs?

Id like to see a clear video of you seeing fish, placing your jig and catching one. Im dying to buy one but boy I have yet to see anything other then talk.

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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
Do you have a video of you placing your jig and getting bit?

Only ones Ive seen is a fuzzy image of something and some jigs?

Id like to see a clear video of you seeing fish, placing your jig and catching one. Im dying to buy one but boy I have yet to see anything other then talk.


I can't tell if your just trying to stir the pot with this post and all your others in this string but in the first video he posted (don't know where it went) but you see the guys jig with a fish swimming up to it and they say raise your jig a little and that fished slammed it. There are many other videos on FB and the internet that shows the exact same thing. I also have personally experienced it (sorry, no video to prove it to you) but was fishing on a tree and had my jig within a foot of a fish on a limb but he never moved to get it. I picked up my jig and placed it on his nose and he hammered it. Made a believer out of me and I ordered it on the spot (and yes, through SUaF/David)!


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Wonder if it stings a little more with Livescope when you can see them down there and not get them to bite! IT's bad enough with the 360. hammer


Yes, before I thought I just sucked at crappie fishing when I didn't get bit but now I know I suck because I know for sure there are fish in there and I still can't make them bite, splat


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Do you have a video of you placing your jig and getting bit?

Only ones Ive seen is a fuzzy image of something and some jigs?

Id like to see a clear video of you seeing fish, placing your jig and catching one. Im dying to buy one but boy I have yet to see anything other then talk.






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No pot stirring. So far all I see is one guy trying to sell a $2500 unit and another guy who bought one trying to justify his purchase!

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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
No pot stirring. So far all I see is one guy trying to sell a $2500 unit and another guy who bought one trying to justify his purchase!


I have them lower than the one guy at $2500.00
Let me know if I can help you out. I would be happy to assist you.


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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
No pot stirring. So far all I see is one guy trying to sell a $2500 unit and another guy who bought one trying to justify his purchase!


I have them lower than the one guy at $2500.00
Let me know if I can help you out. I would be happy to assist you.


Worth every penny!!!

David - I want to thank you for your great service and pricing when I purchased my unit (and everything else I've bought through you). I had a lot of questions about it and you were very thorough, patient and knowledgeable. Thank you for personally taking me out on your boat twice to show me and help answer my questions. I don't know too many others who go to that extent to help a customer out. Keep trying to help others by keeping them informed of all these great products that come out and then providing the excellent prices and service. Finally, keep doing what you do and being you. Many on here appreciate it.


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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
No pot stirring. So far all I see is one guy trying to sell a $2500 unit and another guy who bought one trying to justify his purchase!


Seems like there's at least 2 people on this thread that have one you could probably check out if your dying to purchase one and are unhappy with the quality of their videos. Unless you have no real intent of purchasing one to begin with! popcorn

Personally I think all this electronics hub bub is just bologna and nobody needs any of it! Especially folks fishing D1 in CAT!!! roflmao

That's my lie, I mean 2 cents!!!

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David is a straight shooter and is excited about a new product. Nobody is trying to talk you into a purchase. They are merely sharing the new technology available today. I'm sure more videos will be available as time moves on, maybe you can find what you're looking for later.

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Personally I think all this electronics hub bub is just bologna and nobody needs any of it! Especially folks fishing D1 in CAT!!! roflmao
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I bet there will be more than one or two using them next year. When you putting one on your sled?

Originally Posted By: el Rojo
David is a straight shooter and is excited about a new product. Nobody is trying to talk you into a purchase. They are merely sharing the new technology available today. I'm sure more videos will be available as time moves on, maybe you can find what you're looking for later.

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How you doing Red (and your wife of course)? Been awhile since I have seen you post.


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I'm still trying to afford jeans without holes in em! I'm a long ways off from new fishing toys! roflmao

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Every intention of buying something. But from what Ive seen here I may have to wait and see what hummingbird comes out with.

Interesting though how you cant ask questions about a large investment unless you agree with the guy selling it or the guy that bought one?

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Originally Posted By: Slab Killa
Every intention of buying something. But from what Ive seen here I may have to wait and see what hummingbird comes out with.

Interesting though how you can't ask questions about a large investment unless you agree with the guy selling it or the guy that bought one?


FYI...TFF staff is working on the sight so videos are not present at this time. I have not removed them and we hope they will be back up soon.

I do not believe I have asked you to agree with anything I have produced in this thread. I only share info on the product and I will share with you again more info on the product from your recent inquiry on the Humminbird. I will also elaborate as to what is truly going on in the industry of fishfinder manufacturers.
1st off I could go postal on you here in the open forum, however, that is not how I do things here at shut-up-and-fish. I have for 11 years (over a Decade mind you) in growing my business always taken the high road. Not one negative response and I believe the "Good Trade/Bad Trade" Reports in this forum will show you that. I see that you may have drawn interest to others as to how you have brought about your thoughts and feeling to this post as to why they speak out loud on your behalf. I have also had numerous private messages as well as a few phone calls asking me what is up with "Slab Killa" I, in fact, had a customer in the shop just yesterday getting work done laughing about you and how you have conducted yourself in this post. So with that now behind us, I will again share with you and the many other fine members of this site what is coming forth in the industry of marine electronics.

In 2018 Lowrance introduced the HDS Carbon. In the eyes of the consumer there just wasn't much difference in it over the HDS Gen3 to justify dropping the HDS Gen3 and getting the HDS Carbon. Lowrance had a slow year in sales on the Carbon model.
Most may or may not know but Lowrance and Garmin went through a battle in court. Garmin was allowed to introduce Panoptix and now Panoptix LiveScope. This is actually technology produced by Lowrance and now introduced to the marketplace by Garmin.
You may have seen Lowrance recently introducing the new HDS LIVE as well as LiveSight. If you pay close attention to the area I have outlined in red (below images) you will notice on the menu screen LiveSight with images showing forward and downward views. So yes, Lowrance will have the same technology coming to the marketplace in Spring 2019.
Humminbird has in a nutshell done the same thing that Lowrance did in 2018. Humminbird discontinued the G2N and introduced the G3N for 2019. Just like Lowrance no real changes from the HDS3 to the HDS Carbon to drive me to drop the G2N and race out and get the G3N. Humminbird has not produced anything to the marketplace at this time to compete in the LiveScope or LiveSight technology. Humminbird will have a slow year in sales for 2019 as Lowrance had in 2018.

With that being said, here are my 2cents Spend them wisely...
For the Humminbird fan: hold tight to your G2N unless it is absolutely time for an upgrade or if you are still in the numbered series such as the 800, 900 and 1100 then it is justifiable to go into the G3N series. Do not hold this to me but I think if you want to utilize the NEW Built-In Mega DI transducer on the Minn Kota trolling Motors it will require the G3N series.
For the Lowrance fan: if you are fine with your HDS Gen3 (great unit) then simply purchase the Garmin Panoptix LiveScope w/compatible display and save some buck. If you are below the HDS Gen3 then it would be justifiable to go into the HDS LIVE series with LiveSight. Do not hold this to me but I think you can purchase a Livesight module for the Carbon to achieve LiveSight. The HDS LIVE will accept the LiveSight direct w/out a module. LiveSight is not compatible with the HDS Gen3.
For the Garmin fan: Garmin has come along way in the marine electronics field. They offer units with a CV52 clearvu downvu transducer for the 455kHz and 800kHz. You can add the HD module with the GT52 transducer and achieve the 1.25Mhz teamed up with the Panoptix LiveScope or you can simply purchase a compatible Garmin display such as the echoMap Chirp Plus 93sv (9") w/out transducer teamed up with the LiveScope.



See video here. Not much info about the LiveSight to read about, however, if you pay close attention to the video Lowrance is giving us the full perspective of there LiveSight. Watch the part when it shows LiveSight Down view, it will be in real time real image. Pay attention to when they show LiveSight forward view, it will be in real time 2D sonar as what Garmin 1st Panoptix release was.
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You could go postal?

Wow...real mature.

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Originally Posted By: fishin'aholic2
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Exactly...I guess I have been hand feeding the troll roflmao


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Will live sight be compatable with the carbon models David? The Ranger came with carbons so I just added a helix 9 and 360. Not sure I wanna look at another screen on the boat but might consider adding something that would plug into the existing unit! Clay says he will have livescope this spring though. He's excited about it.

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Will live sight be compatable with the carbon models David? The Ranger came with carbons so I just added a helix 9 and 360. Not sure I wanna look at another screen on the boat but might consider adding something that would plug into the existing unit! Clay says he will have livescope this spring though. He's excited about it.


From what I am hearing yes LiveSight will be compatible with the Carbon series but it will require a LiveSight module and transducer. LiveSight down view will be in real-time real image as for where the LiveSight forward view will be in real-time 2D Sonar like Garmin's 1st Panoptix before LiveScope.


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David, I share your enthusiasm , having fished from flashers to this !!! A lot of intel to read, digest and decide ,and so little time.

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David, I share your enthusiasm , having fished from flashers to this !!! A lot of intel to read, digest and decide ,and so little time.


Unfortunately, we may be having this very same conversation again this time next year when new equipment is coming out. Seems as though new lines of Marine Electronics are being introduced every year now. Just like the cell phone.


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Hey, you Garmin Panoptix LiveScope fans. I have been working with Garmin on the ActiveCaptain App and we have just received the update which has corrected the glitch it was having. Here is a 30-second video of me in the shop adjusting gain up and back down to give you a sneak peek as to what we will be doing with LiveScope and ActiveCaptain. Get your popcorn ready as we will be producing some killer video. Thank You, Garmin for being so supportive in resolving our issue so fast.
Also, watch as I crank up the Gain. You will see the six beams that makeup LiveScope. LiveScope is possible by combining 2D Sonar, Down Imaging, and Side Imaging. It is amazing technology and will definitely change the way you see crappie on your next fishing trip.



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David, I got to see it in action yesterday. Really, really cool. I need one also. That was a blast seeing a fish come up and hit the jig.

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David, I got to see it in action yesterday. Really, really cool. I need one also. That was a blast seeing a fish come up and hit the jig.


I warned you!!!

It is so cool and worth every penny I spent.


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Well, crud...I went up the creek w/out a paddle today and only LiveScope. I finally have ActiveCaptain dialed in and set out to make some video. Fishing was very slow with one fish here one fish there. On my way out around 3:30pm, I finally found what I had been looking for. A large school of Crappie on a deep water ledge. I had a one-man limit in 40 minutes. A video was made via the ActiveCaptain, however, NumNuts (Me) failed to turn off the sidebar showing coordinates so I simply have a snapshot with the sidebar edited. Hopefully, I will have another video attempt very soon. This was a deep water ledge holding two large schools of solid keeper fish. White/Chart Rocky Top was the menu.


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Same spot as above. 42 fish boated and 25 went home for a fish fry at deer camp.




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8 Ball - Corner Pocket!!!! roflmao

That is so cool to watch the fish swim up to the jig, hit it and then watch you reel it in.

You do know that there is a blue screen instead of the amber, right? I think the videos would be cool in blue but I might be a little biased toward that color.


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Originally Posted by Slewfoot
I'm still trying to afford jeans without holes in em! I'm a long ways off from new fishing toys! roflmao

Says the guy that was fishing out of a $60k Ranger the last time I saw him on the water. roflmao


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In all seriousness, I see where some are coming from regarding the views and images. Although they're "live", they are quite grainy and hard to see. I'm guessing some just aren't used to reading graphs a lot and are expecting way more clarity, but it is hard to see much more than the novelty of it.

So here's my legit concern before dropping that much on a new unit: It's really "cool" to watch a jig being hit by a fish on screen, but how can you know you would not have caught those same fish using traditional SI/DI? Seems to me you'd need to try the exact same spot and the exact same fish at roughly the same time to actually measure how much it improves your catch rate. When I scan an area and see fish on my DI, it's "live" for that moment and I can mark where the fish are (location, depth, and size of fish). I can then target those fish specifically and with pretty good accuracy. What does the livescope add to that? Granted I may have to see it in person to appreciate it, but I'm just not 100% sold yet.
I want to get there, so someone convince me. thumb

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In all seriousness, I see where some are coming from regarding the views and images. Although they're "live", they are quite grainy and hard to see. I'm guessing some just aren't used to reading graphs a lot and are expecting way more clarity, but it is hard to see much more than the novelty of it.

So here's my legit concern before dropping that much on a new unit: It's really "cool" to watch a jig being hit by a fish on screen, but how can you know you would not have caught those same fish using traditional SI/DI? Seems to me you'd need to try the exact same spot and the exact same fish at roughly the same time to actually measure how much it improves your catch rate. When I scan an area and see fish on my DI, it's "live" for that moment and I can mark where the fish are (location, depth, and size of fish). I can then target those fish specifically and with pretty good accuracy. What does the livescope add to that? Granted I may have to see it in person to appreciate it, but I'm just not 100% sold yet.
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Eric - jump on my boat sometime and you can see for yourself.

I saw a fish sitting in a limb and had my jig within 3 feet of it but it wouldn't move. I picked my jig up and moved it over and dropped it on his nose and he hammered it. That's what convinced me.

The other thing a saw this weekend was how many fish were coming in and out of the brush pile I was fishing. You know for sure there are fish in there when you see them swimming around. I never realized just how much activity was going on. You won't see that on DS/2d while you are spot locked on it.

Lastly, when I can see a fish swim up to my jig, look at it for 10-20 seconds and then just swim away it helps me to know that I need to switch colors, profiles, action of the jig to see if I can get them to bite.


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I think it's really cool. Maybe get one for the toon next spring. Hopefully HB comes out with something better by then.

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Same DeepWater Ledge...

If you simply want to see your catch in a whole other realm then you need the Garmin LiveScope. When I first saw LiveScope advertised I was skeptical. Heck I even said "there is another tool that will just keep you playing with the graph instead of fishing". Boy was I totally incorrect in that thought. Here is a video I did yesterday from the ActiveCaptain App. The ActiveCaptain App allows for me to connect my graph to my cell phone or tablet via Bluetooth and record direct from the graph what is going on. No more do I need to hold my phone to the graph to record my reflection in my video. I pulled a 1 man limit in a short time yesterday. Actually I boated 42 crappie off this one spot throwing back the 11' and keeping the 11.5" -12" fish. Enjoy the video...You can see the bait get slammed and the fish reeled to the surface. Let me know how I may assist you...
This may upset some jig makers and I am not trying to offend them by this statememt. I do have a tackle bag full of plastics and NewYears Resolutions are ment to be broken and yes just last month I broke it and have been fishing plastics as of late.
I told myself at the start of this year "Keep It Simple Stupid" and I started fishing hand ties exclusively. This increased my catch ratio from fishing plastics. When fishing with a plastic jig body and I would get bit or if I snagged up a bit I would always have to raise my bait out of the water and pull up my skirt. With a hand tie I would simply relax after getting bit or snagged up keeping the bait in the water not having to raise my bait out of the water to pull my skirt up. By keeping my bait in the water more increased my bite ratio. I do not claim to be a top notch angler and need every advantage I can muster so that was my tactic for this year. By the way it has been my best year of fishing out of the 6 + years I have dedicated to the crappie species.
Now here comes Garmin LiveScope to the picture. In short, LiveScope allows for me to be specific with bait placement. Yes I can see fish with my SI or DI, mark fish and drop down and catch fish. However "Keep It Simple Stupid" comes back to mind and if I could have a way to get my bait in the strikezone better I could perhaps again increase my catch ratio. Not only will I be able to increase my catch ratio I can tell if they are small fish or big fish. This year has been a Stellar Year for me in the fact that I have increased my catch ratio with the terms mentioned above and have been succesfull based on my numbers.
LiveScope has been good for me. It may not be for someone else.





The fish are simply stacked up against the ledge. You can see the fish follow my jig up and I am thumping it on the nose. She didn't strike so I lowered the jig and her friend said I'll take that then you see the fish coming to the surface. I saw that 42 times yesterday and was calling the shots. My last fish for the day before I caught it I said "8 ball in the corner pocket" and then thump...What a fun day.
Can the sink full of fish below be done with SI and DI, certainly it can.

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