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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: swalker9513]
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05/21/18 06:44 PM
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The one way in one way it is good except for those schools with 1000 or more students. The only way to do that is have multiple entry points with all the said technology. It would still take hours to get everyone through. Not to mention having hundreds of students who are vulnerable every day with nowhere to hide...all in a nice line. Thats a good point
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:46 PM
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spankyttx
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i like the idea of modeling our schools like how the japs do it
or give the kids bat shields, oh yeah
Last edited by spankyttx; 05/21/18 06:48 PM.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/21/18 06:59 PM
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Getting rid of those back packs and "creative" carriers ( like a guitar case) sports bags... hoodies ...etc would make it harder for someone to get a weapon in.... get small lap tops for them to do their work on ...assign home work on the PC there would be no need to carry books everywhere in bags .....gotta check what's coming in no matter how long it takes....Have local task force do surprise visits with the dogs...close the campus..have a check point for deliveries or carrying anything that could conceal weapons....... people are going to have to be willing to do something different.....some of the things i listed would be a good start ever seen lake travis HS?? the size of UT and there is no way to do this. The trend is larger HS. what are dogs gonna do besides get shot? its kids showing up guns a blazing. the dogs can locate explosives and firearms......i guess everyone wants to tell us how it cant be done instead of how it can.....they check people at airports and it takes forever....havent seen any planes from the US hi-jacked since we started tho------ checking that many students would take time but it would go a hell of a lot quicker if you limit what they can carry and wear on campus or we can do nothing and keep getting the same results....
If it ain't broke don't fix it...but go ahead and work on it anyway.....
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 07:01 PM
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soggybottom
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Its Ok, I have solved the problem or at least half. Separate the girls/boys. Girls arent shooting up schools. Then you can concentrate on only half the student pop. It would make it a lot easier.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: swalker9513]
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05/21/18 07:02 PM
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how about higher property taxes? In contrast with the above mentioned idea of taxing guns & ammo, this at least spreads the cost evenly across everyone. This strikes me as more fair than singling out lawful firearms owners.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 07:02 PM
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/21/18 07:04 PM
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My property taxes have gone up 80k in 3 years. Please. Mercy.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Big Sam]
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05/21/18 07:07 PM
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swalker9513
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i guess everyone wants to tell us how it cant be done instead of how it can..... Not at all. It just needs to be a real solution and not a band-aide.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 07:20 PM
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UrsusVeritas
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My property taxes have gone up 80k in 3 years. Please. Mercy. Sadly that money doesnt make it to the schools.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 07:23 PM
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UrsusVeritas
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How about a tax on guns/ammo that funds jobs for veterans as school security offers? In return, no further restrictions on gun owners?
I'm just trying to think of a compromise that could ACTUALLY pass into law.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: UrsusVeritas]
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05/21/18 07:32 PM
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How about a tax on guns/ammo that funds jobs for veterans as school security offers? In return, no further restrictions on gun owners?
I'm just trying to think of a compromise that could ACTUALLY pass into law. how about stop wasting millions on sports and pay for the things that actually matter?
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 07:42 PM
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swalker9513
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how much money does HS football generate? along with the tournaments that are held in the facilities? I don't know the answer to that.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/22/18 12:41 AM
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How about a tax on guns/ammo that funds jobs for veterans as school security offers? In return, no further restrictions on gun owners?
I'm just trying to think of a compromise that could ACTUALLY pass into law. how about stop wasting millions on sports and pay for the things that actually matter? You sir just won the internet.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/22/18 12:43 AM
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How about a tax on guns/ammo that funds jobs for veterans as school security offers? In return, no further restrictions on gun owners?
I'm just trying to think of a compromise that could ACTUALLY pass into law. how about stop wasting millions on sports and pay for the things that actually matter? You sir just won the internet. Congrats Bigbob!
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/22/18 12:59 AM
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I thought about making schools a secure zone with limited perimeter entrances with metal detectors and trained armed security. The problem is that those who are doing the shootings would find a seam or another way to get their warped mentally ill message across. Put up a fence and they run a vehicle thru it to a area where students have gathered. Or maybe the shooter waits for a off school event. Typically these shootins happen in a very short time. By the time security gets there some would have been killed.
To me the answer is in how kids are raised and what creates mental illness for them. Need to focus on the why not the how. The common thing between these school shootings is that the shooter is in his mind getting even or punishing a certain group. Most often those who have bullied, teased, or ostracized the shooter. Or teachers or school officials they hold a grudge against.
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