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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 05:51 PM
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soggybottom
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why dont we just concede that we are not going to do anything at all and eat lunch , forget it happened.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: soggybottom]
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05/21/18 05:56 PM
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John175☮
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why dont we just concede that we are not going to do anything at all and eat lunch , forget it happened. Thank's for the help. Next time just stay home.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: soggybottom]
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05/21/18 05:58 PM
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Scagnetti
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why dont we just concede that we are not going to do anything at all and eat lunch , forget it happened. Truth Not to worry, this story will be out of the headlines in a week
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:00 PM
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Big Sam
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Getting rid of those back packs and "creative" carriers ( like a guitar case) sports bags... hoodies ...etc would make it harder for someone to get a weapon in.... get small lap tops for them to do their work on ...assign home work on the PC there would be no need to carry books everywhere in bags .....gotta check what's coming in no matter how long it takes....Have local task force do surprise visits with the dogs...close the campus..have a check point for deliveries or carrying anything that could conceal weapons....... people are going to have to be willing to do something different.....some of the things i listed would be a good start
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:14 PM
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John175☮
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You can either restrict the freedoms of students or restrict the freedoms of everyone.
I vote restrict the student freedoms.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: UrsusVeritas]
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05/21/18 06:17 PM
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Chris B
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Would you guys support an extra tax on guns and ammo if the revenue went 100% towards school security (more SROs, metal detectors, etc..)? No, why did you pick guns and ammo?
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: UrsusVeritas]
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05/21/18 06:19 PM
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Would you guys support an extra tax on guns and ammo if the revenue went 100% towards school security (more SROs, metal detectors, etc..)? No, for a few reasons. One has been stated above. Another is that not all killings and injuries at schools come from firearms. People use knives, explosives, and bludgeoning instruments as well. https://abcnews.go.com/US/stabbings-fran...ory?id=23253018Presumably, improved security would seek to stop ALL such weapons from being brought into school. Thus, if taxation of the instruments were to be considered, it would have to tax ALL weapons that get used, or might be used. The next reason is that the taxation of firearms & ammunition strikes me as an infringement of the right to keep and bear arms. It's one thing for the free market to raise prices (say if more stores like Walmart and Dicks stop selling guns, reducing competition and raising prices), but it's another for government to impose higher prices.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Big Sam]
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05/21/18 06:19 PM
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soggybottom
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Getting rid of those back packs and "creative" carriers ( like a guitar case) sports bags... hoodies ...etc would make it harder for someone to get a weapon in.... get small lap tops for them to do their work on ...assign home work on the PC there would be no need to carry books everywhere in bags .....gotta check what's coming in no matter how long it takes....Have local task force do surprise visits with the dogs...close the campus..have a check point for deliveries or carrying anything that could conceal weapons....... people are going to have to be willing to do something different.....some of the things i listed would be a good start ever seen lake travis HS?? the size of UT and there is no way to do this. The trend is larger HS. what are dogs gonna do besides get shot? its kids showing up guns a blazing.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:24 PM
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swalker9513
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how about higher property taxes?
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:28 PM
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Der Vorsteher
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The one way in one way it is good except for those schools with 1000 or more students. The only way to do that is have multiple entry points with all the said technology. It would still take hours to get everyone through.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:29 PM
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swalker9513
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As an aside, the brand new high school my kids attended could have catastrophic numbers of injuries due to the layout. Basically, almost all of the students funnel into a common area between classes that has a 2nd floor overlooking...fish in a barrel.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
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05/21/18 06:29 PM
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Der Vorsteher
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You can either restrict the freedoms of students or restrict the freedoms of everyone.
I vote restrict the student freedoms.
I think you guys would be surprised at how many students are probably in favor of this. I am currently at an alternative school and we did a poll and 98% students were for these measures, metal detectors, more armed security, etc. They want to feel safe more than anyone else.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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05/21/18 06:31 PM
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swalker9513
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The one way in one way it is good except for those schools with 1000 or more students. The only way to do that is have multiple entry points with all the said technology. It would still take hours to get everyone through. Not to mention having hundreds of students who are vulnerable every day with nowhere to hide...all in a nice line.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Notaguide]
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05/21/18 06:33 PM
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Der Vorsteher
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I would also implement a dress code and require school uniforms. I would have each entry with one door, then metal detector, guards with a live camera. About 75-100 feet beyond this have a door that when someone watching the camera sees someone pull out a gun those doors shut and lock, bullet proof glass or no glass at all. When that button is hit all doors and building close and lock and you are on instant lock down.
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Re: The best real solution I can think of to prevent these school tragedies
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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05/21/18 06:43 PM
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soggybottom
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I would also implement a dress code and require school uniforms. I would have each entry with one door, then metal detector, guards with a live camera. About 75-100 feet beyond this have a door that when someone watching the camera sees someone pull out a gun those doors shut and lock, bullet proof glass or no glass at all. When that button is hit all doors and building close and lock and you are on instant lock down. hey, as long as MY rights arent infringed on and they still have a competitive football team I dont care what happens.
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