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Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:15 PM
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Ft.Worth.Fisherman
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Anyone fished this setup? I will be targeting smallmouth on a crayfish pattern and thought about giving it a try. Just curious what you guys thought.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:18 PM
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Floon Swenson
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Sure, it can work great.
What kind of water are you going to be on?
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:35 PM
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joabsher
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I have used them and have had success with them. The faster sinking ones seem to be more difficult to cast, but they can be very successful.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:39 PM
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I will be on the buffalo river in Arkansas. Just wondering if it is even necessary or if I should just let the crayfish sink slow.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:41 PM
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MassAction
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I have used them and have had success with them. The faster sinking ones seem to be more difficult to cast, but they can be very successful. I'll echo this. I used Rio's versa leader for hill country white bass and it works really well, but don't expect to drop dimes from 80 feet away. It's basically a lob, pray, and plop game because the heavier leader creates a wicked hinge point. It's one time where you will want to open up your cast and form a big open loop. Rio's Versileader works well for me and are available in a good variety of weights.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 03:43 PM
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MassAction
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I will be on the buffalo river in Arkansas. Just wondering if it is even necessary or if I should just let the crayfish sink slow.
It can't hurt to keep a couple in your bag. If the flow rates increase in the river you're fishing, simply relying on the weight of the fly to sink may not be enough.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 04:39 PM
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karstopo
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An all fluorocarbon leader will sink and won't cause any additional casting issues over and above an equivalent sized nylon leader. A fluorocarbon leader offers a mid point between using a floating nylon leader and going with a harder to cast sinking leader. I'd tie up a few fluorocarbon leaders just in case they offer enough sinking action.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 04:42 PM
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Floon Swenson
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I will be on the buffalo river in Arkansas. Just wondering if it is even necessary or if I should just let the crayfish sink slow.
It can't hurt to keep a couple in your bag. If the flow rates increase in the river you're fishing, simply relying on the weight of the fly to sink may not be enough. That's what I was thinking about, the flow rate. If you're in faster water, they can really be useful. That said, the Buffalo isn't exactly a ripping river, but I can think of a few places there that I might put one on. I always carry a couple with me just in case. I don't know if you've ever floated the Buffalo before, but if you haven't, know you're in for a great trip. That river is absolutely stunning.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 04:56 PM
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Mckinneycrappiecatcher
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They work. A line that is actually designed as a sink tip is a better option.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 06:46 PM
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Glitchmo
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I keep a couple in my bag. They work for sure in certain circumstances, and they take up like no space and aren't expensive.
Carrying multiple spools/lines is probably better, but also a lot more trouble and expense.
The orvis poly leaders come in different lengths and sink rates, and they're like ten-fifteen bucks each I think.
Last edited by Glitchmo; 04/11/18 06:47 PM.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 08:28 PM
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I use a 5ft Airflow fast sinking, then tie on about a 4ft or 5ft fluro. (Invisx).
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/11/18 09:36 PM
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ZachW
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I like them and find it way easier to cast a sinking leader than a heavy fly, especially if I'm putting on split shot.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/12/18 06:10 PM
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This situation appears to be Ideal for the Micro Skagit application with sink tips. That method of casting is so ideal for big flies and sink tips.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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04/30/18 01:59 PM
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CodyDog
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I generally use a Rio sinking leader but prefer the shorter length for easier casting. I like no more than 7" in length.
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Re: Sink leader on a floating line?
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05/14/18 02:18 AM
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jscott1112
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I normally don't change reels/line that often when I'm on the water. I do add a flourocarbon leader/tippet when I want to drop below the surface a little bit and have a floating line on.
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