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Keto Diet
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02/11/18 08:51 PM
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RipDaLips
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Old n Crusty
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Has anyone else tried it?
The warden and I started it 3 weeks ago today. So far, I am 3.6lbs down and her 4.3lbs as of this morning. Simple changes in diet, as in not eating grain based flours, instead using almond, coconut flours etc. Carbs and sugars aren't allowed and the weird thing on this is, you eat high fats foods. Lots of avocado's, good fat meats like salmon, beef and bacon is allowed too along with others. I can't even begin to explain it all, but you can Google it up for some knowledge and facts, lots of good meals to be had, and some great cook books out there. We've been finding most our recipes on Pinterest of all things.
Maybe it will benefit some of you trying to battle the bulge, or just drop that 10-15lbs or what ever your goal is.
I'll try and post updates as things move downwards on the scales. We aren't into full ketosis yet and not sure if we'll go that strong into the diet itself. So far, this has been one of the better diets with simple changes we've tried.
If this has already been discussed, feel free to delete.
Some folks mouths, flat out runs their minds.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12622737
02/12/18 01:59 AM
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butch sanders
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my boss is doing it what do they say about vodka?
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12623130
02/12/18 12:28 PM
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RedRanger
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Sounds like the Atkins diet
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12623178
02/12/18 01:24 PM
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H2O Seeker
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I have had some clients who have done well following the Keto plan however they found it best to cycle off after about 6 weeks and then back on after a 2 week break or so.
In addition, I had to counsel a client who had heart disease and countless cardiac issues on both sides of the family. Counter productive to introduce a high fat intake fueling program for someone with a history of heart issues. We agreed to: 1. Increase fluid intake daily - main source to be water; 2. Eat breakfast; 3. Decrease portion sizes; 4. Eat every 2 hours; 5. Walk or other measureable activity a minimum 3X/week.
He lost 2 pant sizes...
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: butch sanders]
#12623429
02/12/18 03:49 PM
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RipDaLips
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Old n Crusty
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my boss is doing it what do they say about vodka? Clear liquors are ok with club soda or tonic, in moderation of course. I have had some clients who have done well following the Keto plan however they found it best to cycle off after about 6 weeks and then back on after a 2 week break or so.
In addition, I had to counsel a client who had heart disease and countless cardiac issues on both sides of the family. Counter productive to introduce a high fat intake fueling program for someone with a history of heart issues. We agreed to: 1. Increase fluid intake daily - main source to be water; 2. Eat breakfast; 3. Decrease portion sizes; 4. Eat every 2 hours; 5. Walk or other measureable activity a minimum 3X/week.
He lost 2 pant sizes... Are you a doctor or PA?? Just curious, as you mentioned you had a client.
Some folks mouths, flat out runs their minds.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12623490
02/12/18 04:08 PM
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tsspencer2887
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Don't just pay attention to the carbs. You've got to watch out for all the other things that can get you into trouble too. Even though you're doing keto, you still want to limit your fats. Pay special attention to trans and saturated fats. You can get into trouble with those quickly. Cheese is my weak spot. I'd also recommend targeting low-carb foods that are high in HDL cholesterol. Almost by default, you can overwhelm your system with LDL cholesterol (the bad stuff). Leaning heavier on HDLs will help mitigate that. Avocados are great for this.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12623897
02/12/18 07:13 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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All I know is it's popular in the Trail and Ultra Running world. If they can run 100 miles on that diet, you will do fine! From what I am reading, you have to get to the point you start burning fat instead of carbs. Training your body to do what you want. It's another diet with a cool name.....all diets cut out something....you just pick which food you don't mind missing out on. For me.....I run a LOT so I can enjoy carbs and some sugars.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12623922
02/12/18 07:28 PM
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krawlin 47
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Keto is short for Ketosis - very simple - no sugar, no grain. This is exactly what I started late in September - down 30 pounds and feel as good as I have in years. If I were an elite athlete there is no way I would chose this diet...not the case. I am a 55 year old man that got a bit over weight and really my body does not process sugar well. So I moved to a no sugar no grain diet. I follow Vinnie Tortorich on twitter (google #nsng) - he is a bit crewd but really is spot on with what he recommends if you are trying to get to a sustainable weight and and eating program. Meats - fat content is not an issue Veggies - most veggies are good - some have a lot of lectins which is a whole additional topic - I have cut lectins out as much as possible also Fruits - berries and low sugar fruits - juices are for the most part glorified sugar drinks so I don't drink them Nuts - Almonds, Walnuts, Macadamia Nuts are the best Legumes - I will eat small amounts of legumes or beans...full once again of lectins - so my chili has no beans Dairy - I eat full fat dairy everything - extra heavy whipping crme is the bomb in coffee! No reduced fat as your body is fooled by this stuff and in many cases processes it just like sugar. No artificial sweeteners - NONE, which I love - those are all poison IMO. Stevia is made from real sugar I use it occasionally. Very interesting discovery - Tortorich talks about how sugar creates hunger in a vicious cycle - after 10 days of no sugars and no grains I could feel my body change...I felt terrible for about two days and once I got through the Keto-Flu I have never looked back. I crave no sugar. Sat in an Italian place Saturday had veal, cauliflower and roasted veggies and did not crave pasta - Pasta used to be my very favorite carb (along with craft beer). Alcohol - I drink Bourbon on Ice or Gin/Vodka Topo-Chico and real lime juice (from a lime). I do miss my beer and will have a few when I get to my goal of 210. 10 pounds to go. This is not adkins in any way stretch or form. No grain...atkins is full of grains and fake sugar.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12624106
02/12/18 09:24 PM
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chickenman
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I'm currently on the EGG diet.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RipDaLips]
#12624183
02/12/18 10:11 PM
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RatedG
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: RatedG]
#12624220
02/12/18 10:30 PM
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Ranger Z21
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST This. You have to make lifestyle changes and no one can do this the rest of their life. Plus huge health risks. Your body is built to run on carbs, protein and fats and it's all about portion control and exercise. Hopefully you all got your doctors approval before doing this and routine blood work to check your LDL levels which most likely will rise into unhealthful levels causing a whole different set of problems.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: Ranger Z21]
#12624476
02/13/18 01:00 AM
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butch sanders
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST This. You have to make lifestyle changes and no one can do this the rest of their life. Plus huge health risks. Your body is built to run on carbs, protein and fats and it's all about portion control and exercise. Hopefully you all got your doctors approval before doing this and routine blood work to check your LDL levels which most likely will rise into unhealthful levels causing a whole different set of problems. this is good advice
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: Ranger Z21]
#12624498
02/13/18 01:13 AM
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tsspencer2887
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST This. You have to make lifestyle changes and no one can do this the rest of their life. Plus huge health risks. Your body is built to run on carbs, protein and fats and it's all about portion control and exercise. Hopefully you all got your doctors approval before doing this and routine blood work to check your LDL levels which most likely will rise into unhealthful levels causing a whole different set of problems. No. Ketosis is a lifestyle change. The purpose of Keto is to alter the way that your body produces energy. Atkins is a short term diet program that consists of four phases. The first phase is the most restrictive (some users may experience Ketosis) and where most people see their greatest weight loss. As you progress through the program additional sources of carbs are added and you lose the Ketosis.
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: tsspencer2887]
#12624504
02/13/18 01:17 AM
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H2O Seeker
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST This. You have to make lifestyle changes and no one can do this the rest of their life. Plus huge health risks. Your body is built to run on carbs, protein and fats and it's all about portion control and exercise. Hopefully you all got your doctors approval before doing this and routine blood work to check your LDL levels which most likely will rise into unhealthful levels causing a whole different set of problems. No. Ketosis is a lifestyle change. The purpose of Keto is to alter the way that your body produces energy. Atkins is a short term diet program that consists of four phases. The first phase is the most restrictive (some users may experience Ketosis) and where most people see their greatest weight loss. As you progress through the program additional sources of carbs are added and you lose the Ketosis. There are safer ways to do it than this however. Best advice is see a registered dietitian who can map a plan that works best for your body/situation.
Last edited by H2O Seeker; 02/13/18 01:17 AM.
Grateful for every sunrise and sunset I get to witness. - Jason
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Re: Keto Diet
[Re: H2O Seeker]
#12624535
02/13/18 01:31 AM
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tsspencer2887
Extreme Angler
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Keto = Atkins.... No carbs. all protein and fats.. good way to shred weight off before a vacation.
But it will come back. FAST This. You have to make lifestyle changes and no one can do this the rest of their life. Plus huge health risks. Your body is built to run on carbs, protein and fats and it's all about portion control and exercise. Hopefully you all got your doctors approval before doing this and routine blood work to check your LDL levels which most likely will rise into unhealthful levels causing a whole different set of problems. No. Ketosis is a lifestyle change. The purpose of Keto is to alter the way that your body produces energy. Atkins is a short term diet program that consists of four phases. The first phase is the most restrictive (some users may experience Ketosis) and where most people see their greatest weight loss. As you progress through the program additional sources of carbs are added and you lose the Ketosis. There are safer ways to do it than this however. Best advice is see a registered dietitian who can map a plan that works best for your body/situation. No argument here. Im only pointing out that Keto and Atkins are not the same thing nor should they be represented as the same thing.
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