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 Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: Okie Poke]
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12/22/15 01:49 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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I also use green line.....only color of line that cannot be detected by underwater photography.
Freaking Papaprazzo bass are clicking pics of my braid all the time.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 03:06 PM
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fishnfanatic84
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Flouro for me too, usually 12lb test. I tried the braid thing for every application years ago, and while my dad was reeling in fish after fish, and seemed like I couldn't buy a bite, or when I did I was ripping the hook out of the mouth, so braid only for top water and heavy cover flipping for me, flouro for everything else, and since then my catch ratio has went up a lot, maybe just a coincidence...
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 03:23 PM
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TanHner36
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: Fishinfellow]
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12/22/15 04:24 PM
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forkduc
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This and braid doesn't have that give that mono has. A tendency to yank the bait away and miss hookups.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: Fishinfellow]
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12/22/15 04:48 PM
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Ken A.
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if you want to groove your guides and only get 15 feet out of a DD22 then go for it. I'll stick with fluoro... I like fluoro too but if braid is grooving your guides, you have an issue with your rods.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 06:33 PM
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JacksonBean
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I was wondering if any of you crankers out there use braid throwing deep crank baits or cranking shallow either with a leader or no leader? If so, why do you like braid better than fluorocarbon or a co-polymer line? For cranking in heavily stained water around cover that would thrash other line types, braid is fantastic to crank with. (no leader)
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: Puma Jim]
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12/22/15 06:46 PM
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EastTexasBassin
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So you guys that use braid just curious why you do that for cranking? I love braid but only for frogging and heavy cover pitching 30lb braid is around the diameter of 8lb flouro. If it doesn't go as deep then how am I bumping the bottom in 20ft? As far as "ripping the hooks out" goes, you do realize that you can control how hard you pull and how your drag is set right? Braid works fine for me. The sensitivity allows me to feel the wobble of the bait and when the wobble stops I set the hook. Fish on. You guys using flouro and mono have fish taking your cranks and spitting them out and you can't even feel it
Last edited by EastTexasBassin; 12/22/15 06:47 PM.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: Ken A.]
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12/22/15 06:47 PM
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Wayne P.
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if you want to groove your guides and only get 15 feet out of a DD22 then go for it. I'll stick with fluoro... I like fluoro too but if braid is grooving your guides, you have an issue with your rods. Correct. Braid cannot groove your guides, it's basically plastic. If you have cheap guides, silica particles in dirty water will embed in the fibers which will cut those cheap guides.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 07:02 PM
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District Paddle
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The general thinking here is that with fluorocarbon, you can achieve deeper depths with a crankbait due to the fact that fluorocarbon sinks. Also, the smaller your fluoro is in diameter, the deeper it will allow you to run a crankbait.
Monofilament and braid are thought of, typically, as lines that are buoyant (meaning they float). In my experience, braid is really more semi-bouyant. After it gets saturated it seems to sink a little more.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to use braid with a shallow square bill crankbait, so long as I have a good crankbait style rod with a good amount of give (medium power with moderate action).
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 07:16 PM
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JMac-D
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: EastTexasBassin]
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12/22/15 07:20 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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So you guys that use braid just curious why you do that for cranking? I love braid but only for frogging and heavy cover pitching 30lb braid is around the diameter of 8lb flouro. If it doesn't go as deep then how am I bumping the bottom in 20ft? As far as "ripping the hooks out" goes, you do realize that you can control how hard you pull and how your drag is set right? Braid works fine for me. The sensitivity allows me to feel the wobble of the bait and when the wobble stops I set the hook. Fish on. You guys using flouro and mono have fish taking your cranks and spitting them out and you can't even feel it you are right about the diameter. And also about softer reel sets instead of gorilla sets. But, the braid doesn't stretch when the fish shakes. So, unless you have exactly the right tension on the rod and the tip is soft, the chances do go up on having a fish throw the hook. Period. You and everyone here knows it. I use braid for flipping deep, thick cover direct to the bait. And I use it on my fixed spool reels with a long Flourocarbon leader. That's it for me. Oh. And my lure knocker has 150lb braid on it. Direct. Haha.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: District Paddle]
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12/22/15 08:08 PM
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Wayne P.
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The general thinking here is that with fluorocarbon, you can achieve deeper depths with a crankbait due to the fact that fluorocarbon sinks. Also, the smaller your fluoro is in diameter, the deeper it will allow you to run a crankbait.
Monofilament and braid are thought of, typically, as lines that are buoyant (meaning they float). In my experience, braid is really more semi-bouyant. After it gets saturated it seems to sink a little more.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to use braid with a shallow square bill crankbait, so long as I have a good crankbait style rod with a good amount of give (medium power with moderate action).
When using high resistance baits like DD22's it makes no difference if the line sinks or floats or how dense it is, it's the resistance the line has to being pulled through water. The smaller the diameter, the less water resistance.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 09:25 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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Only time I have cranked with braid have been traps and 2.5 square bills on falcon. Those Falcon fish are mean, that braid with some upgraded hooks was the ticket
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: ezbassin]
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12/22/15 09:54 PM
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JohnButte
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I use it exclusively. I catch fish.
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Re: Cranking with braid?
[Re: District Paddle]
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12/23/15 12:27 AM
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ezbassin
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The general thinking here is that with fluorocarbon, you can achieve deeper depths with a crankbait due to the fact that fluorocarbon sinks. Also, the smaller your fluoro is in diameter, the deeper it will allow you to run a crankbait.
Monofilament and braid are thought of, typically, as lines that are buoyant (meaning they float). In my experience, braid is really more semi-bouyant. After it gets saturated it seems to sink a little more.
I wouldn't hesitate at all to use braid with a shallow square bill crankbait, so long as I have a good crankbait style rod with a good amount of give (medium power with moderate action).
I agree that if you are using fluorocarbon and a co-polymer or mono. line of the same diameter the one tied to the fluoro will get deeper but if you are using 20# test braid it is a lot smaller diameter than 12# fluoro. and I bet if you test them against each other the one on the braid will get deeper. It has less water resistance in the water than 12 pound fluoro does and that will outweigh the difference between it floating or not.
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