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More Briminators
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02/25/15 05:52 PM
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chefmike
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Well these seemed to do the trick for a friend this week. Said he killed them with this. Well not really killed them....lol thought I would share the pattern hook 8 tiemco or mustard thread olive eyes small bead chain tail a little fine krystal flash and olive marabou Body pearl tinsel hackle from a jungle [censored] saddle (but any soft webby hackle will do) head olive SLF dubbing Tight threads all Mike 
".........the wood rod casts beautifully, and through it you can feel the heartbeats of the small trout." John Gierach.
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02/25/15 06:28 PM
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rrhyne56
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Love your take on the good old briminator chefmike
"have fun with this stuff" in memory of Big Dale RRhyne56, Flyfishing warden
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02/25/15 07:11 PM
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J-Moe
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Cool!!! I was tying some with some flash in the tail this week. I'll try some tensil on the body as well.
Thanks for sharing.
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02/25/15 09:48 PM
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chefmike
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".........the wood rod casts beautifully, and through it you can feel the heartbeats of the small trout." John Gierach.
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02/26/15 05:06 PM
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keebranch
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Re: More Briminators
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02/26/15 06:01 PM
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pearow
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those are nice flies and no doubt brim getters, but I always thought a briminator was a fly tied with the church window feather from a pheasant; the entire fly material other than the hook, thread, and beadchain came from that feather. I could be wrong-p-
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02/26/15 06:06 PM
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keebranch
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Gene, I was taught that the originator, Tony Guzman, used a regular India hen feather- he stripped marabou from side for the tail and used tip in for collar. Dubbing can be any material. That said, like you, I like using pheasant as well- it makes for a longer buggy collar.
Les
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02/26/15 06:13 PM
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pearow
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Re: More Briminators
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02/26/15 06:27 PM
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J-Moe
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hackle from a jungle **** saddle
By the way, there are some of us, like myself, that aspire to be a great tier like yourself some day. So every time you come up with these exotic feathers like jungle ***, badger ***, etc I go searching the internet. I sure hope you don't tie with big foot neck hair or Loch Nest monster underbelly scales, LOL!!!
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02/26/15 06:44 PM
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Like Pearow my understanding is that the original was tied with one feather a Church window Pheasant for the hackle and a pinch of fluff for the tail the rest of the fluff used for dubbing for the body. I think because the tail is so short is one reason why the original is so successful, brim sometimes nip at the fly and the short tail is thier undoing. Being a one feather original any color feather tied as the original keeps it a Briminator. Anything else makes it a varient! 
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02/26/15 09:15 PM
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George Glazener
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Like Pearow my understanding is that the original was tied with one feather a Church window Pheasant for the hackle and a pinch of fluff for the tail the rest of the fluff used for dubbing for the body. I think because the tail is so short is one reason why the original is so successful, brim sometimes nip at the fly and the short tail is thier undoing. Being a one feather original any color feather tied as the original keeps it a Briminator. Anything else makes it a varient! Yep....  I agree 100%!!
It is amazing to see that almost 15+ years after I created it for fishing the Paluxy River in Glen Rose, I still see people raving about this great little fly. I have used it for carp for well over 10 yrs, with great success. Just tie them in a little larger size (4-6), use some burnt orange dubbing, add a little bit of rubber legs and use lead dumb-bell eyes to make it ride hook up and you have a winning variation of the original Briminator.
Tight Lines, Tony Guzman Yes, it was used with only one pheasant "Church Window" feather. ...but that was mainly because I am a cheap __________.
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02/26/15 10:54 PM
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keebranch
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Originally Posted By: taguzman
Yes, it was used with only one pheasant "Church Window" feather. ...but that was mainly because I am a cheap __________.
I stand corrected. When Colby Sorrells first introduced our tying group to this fly he told us how to make it with India hen feathers. I might have imagined that was Tony's original or I simply remember it that way. But it works with the pheasant especially if you pull the silver grey fluff to create the tail. I looks sort of minnow like or bug like depending upon what you want to fish that day.
Les
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02/27/15 01:16 PM
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Nice baits. Good job. 
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02/27/15 03:24 PM
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chefmike
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The flies I tied should of been called a variant but hey it catches fish...........lol And Jamie no you don't have to worry no Lochness monster scales etc.............  Mike
".........the wood rod casts beautifully, and through it you can feel the heartbeats of the small trout." John Gierach.
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02/27/15 05:39 PM
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pearow
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well, Tony created the perfect east Texas brim fly; you can tie them chubby or skinney with the size of the bradchain determining the depth you want to fish. I have also caught crappie, yellow bass, and white bass on it in the original church window pattern. I think the briminator and the cap spider are truly Texas flies.-p-
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