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Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` #10084688 06/23/14 07:10 PM
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Stopped this am on way to dentist, trying new rod/reel combo, Abu Garcia. Anyway, tied on a brand new top water KVD lure using a little different knot for me anyhow, Improved Cinch knot.
Set the 'fall' for the lure, threw a few times. Then while setting the 'magnetic
drag' on the left of reel, cast out.....only to see my lure literally 'flying away'.

Only then to realize, my 'new' knot had just come untied and there went the lure!
Arghhhhhhh........
The only thing I can think of is that I didn't 'wet and cinch' down the knot but, I know I did (at least I think I did, cinch it??
Thinking I will go back to and never stray from the time proven Palomar Knot!
Anyone else have 'knot tying' nightmares? frkazoid
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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084705 06/23/14 07:15 PM
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I tie 1 knot 99% of time and I have never known it to actually fail.

Sounds like you did not get the tag end through the correct loop and off into the wild blue yonder your bait went.



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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084707 06/23/14 07:16 PM
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If you don't get it tied correctly it breaks easily. You made a mistake somewhere.You should get the topwater back.


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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084714 06/23/14 07:18 PM
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Been using imp. clinch since I started tying my own hooks and lures, never had an issue with the knot other than with braid and it slipping sometimes but that is solved with a dot of superglue.


All my lures are tied with either palomar or imp clinch knot.

Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Douglas J] #10084716 06/23/14 07:18 PM
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Probably right. Sinking feeling after just thinking, "Man, that was a great cast!" Only to realize...yep, it's gone!
I was/am checking http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots for the 'correct way' ...guess I didn't do such a good job at tying it as I thought.
Good catch in what went wrong even without having been there to see. LOL, you probably would have laughed your butt off.
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.
I tie 1 knot 99% of time and I have never known it to actually fail.

Sounds like you did not get the tag end through the correct loop and off into the wild blue yonder your bait went.



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Last edited by Lee in Texas; 06/23/14 08:45 PM.

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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084719 06/23/14 07:20 PM
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Being a fairly new fisherman I use that knot almost exclusively. Works well for me. You just need to give a tug after you have tightened. Sometimes it will slip if tied wrong.

Learned the hard way using it with braid when I lost a big un.

I know there are better knots and I have started using the Palomar more.

Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084728 06/23/14 07:23 PM
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Improves cinch is quick and easy... 5 turn sandiego jam is almost as easy and stronger. No knot tied correctly will just cast off though. We've all fumbled one at some point or another though, don't sweat it. Better to tie a lousy knot and cast a bait off than tie a lousy knot and watch an amazing fish fly off with the lure IMO


The worst is during a frenzied tournament retie and you go to clip tag end and clip main line and just want to throw a tackle box into the lake...

Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084761 06/23/14 07:39 PM
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blush It was braid and i did not pull it tight enough. Another lesson learned the hard way!
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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084791 06/23/14 07:51 PM
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San Diego Jam is the knot for me.

DId you get your top water back???


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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Douglas J] #10084839 06/23/14 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.
I tie 1 knot 99% of time and I have never known it to actually fail.

Sounds like you did not get the tag end through the correct loop and off into the wild blue yonder your bait went.



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Same here..

However if you were using braid, I wouldn't recommend that knot without using super glue.
A double wrap palomar is best IMO for all braid knots..

Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084846 06/23/14 08:10 PM
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If it was a top water lure it should've floated! And palomar knot only when using braid


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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084851 06/23/14 08:12 PM
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frkazoid Well, it did float but, away and I was pressed for time to get to the darn dentist.
Good points...thanks all.....
Like the signature line says, 'new/old fisherman'...LOL
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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084860 06/23/14 08:14 PM
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Double palomar for braid. Never lost a fish with it!


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Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084873 06/23/14 08:19 PM
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Stick with the palomar knot! Don't fix it if it ain't broke!



Re: Fishing Knot: "Improved Cinch Knot" ...Not For ME! ` [Re: Lee in Texas] #10084944 06/23/14 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lee in Texas
blush It was braid and i did not pull it tight enough. Another lesson learned the hard way!
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when using braid super glue is a must


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