Evidently a couple of guys got into over what looks like maybe a door dent at Kroger's parking lot. One guy shoots the other guy five or six times at very close range. Hope it was worth it to him...

Which one?

It doesn't take much to get shot these days. Just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the wrong place can be anywhere.

It doesn't take much to get shot these days. Just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the wrong place can be anywhere.

It doesn't take much to get shot these days. Just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the wrong place can be anywhere.

Here is the latest I've found. Victim standing outside shooters vehicle. Talk is getting aggressive. Victim says he's armed. Shooter says he is too. Victim reaches behind his back, shooter fires from inside his car and kills the victim. Victim was not armed. Shooter went into custody and was released pending investigation

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Man-28-...-410909815.html

We don't know who was the aggressor yet and who was playing defense. The story I read said the shooter and his wife stayed and waited for the police and were 100% cooperative. It just may be that the dead guy was the bad guy.

We'll have to wait for more details.

Here is the latest I've found. Victim standing outside shooters vehicle. Talk is getting aggressive. Victim says he's armed. Shooter says he is too. Victim reaches behind his back, shooter fires from inside his car and kills the victim. Victim was not armed. Shooter went into custody and was released pending investigation

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Man-28-...-410909815.html

I'm going to disagree. It happens but for every person getting shot there is millions more who went about their day and didn't get shot. Most "victims" were not random acts of violence. Some are but most are not. Whether the shooting was justified or not from what we have so far he could have walked back to his car and waited for police. He didn't and it got him killed. Don't act like a bad-a, be curtious to others, use your head and don't be involved in criminal activity and it is very very unlikely you will be shot.

Be interesting to see if this was caught on camera. I would not want to be in the shooters shoes at this point I doubt he walks on this one. This just seems completely senseless.

If someone is outside my car, acting agressive, tells me he's armed, I may have had to draw and shoot. Hard to be in the guys shoes.

If someone is outside my car, acting agressive, tells me he's armed, I may have had to draw and shoot. Hard to be in the guys shoes.

Man , never bluff that you have a gun ,....OOPS !!!!

They tell you in class, once you pull that trigger, your life will change forever. If he don't go to jail, he'll be out a lot of cash no matter how it goes down.. That insurance offered for situations like this, would be looking pretty dang good about now...

No kidding. If someone being aggressive with me. Makes a comment about being armed. I'm going into defense mode.

Could have pulled the dent out at almost no cost at all

If he was inside his car I think he could be protected from a civil suit under the castle doctrine.

If he has a CCL and is cleared, he can't be pursued for a civil suit.

I didn't know this. You sure?

Yep. Don't get in my face tell me you are armed then go reaching for something. I'm not taking any lead first.

Makes you wonder, if the shooter was unarmed initially, would he have backed down with no confrontation. I sometimes think guys may push the situation since they ARE armed

Makes you wonder, if the shooter was unarmed initially, would he have backed down with no confrontation. I sometimes think guys may push the situation since they ARE armed

If your armed you deescalate the situation as fast as you can or leave. Anything above and beyond that is just asking for a lot of trouble.

Why sit there and argue as well. Simply drive off. Right or wrong I would hate to think I killed a man over a damn door ding. Its a sad state of affairs when we as a society cannot work out something so trivial without resorting to violence and threats. Don't know who did what but both could have avoided the whole damn situation by communicating.

I have been around plenty of morons I suspect will behave in the manner you describe. They are sort of pu&$&@-s and feel empowered. Clearly both were idiots. I assume both went to get some groceries. One managed to shoot someone and one managed to get shot over a door ding. Brilliant. What ever happened to just kicking someone's arse?

The fact that some people would rather not have their arse kicked

X2 that was a very stupid move...

Getting your arse beat can be educational, beneficial for personal growth. Every man I know, myself included has deserved to get his arse beat at some point in his life. Embrace it when the time comes. Lol

Why sit there and argue as well. Simply drive off. Right or wrong I would hate to think I killed a man over a damn door ding. Its a sad state of affairs when we as a society cannot work out something so trivial without resorting to violence and threats. Don't know who did what but both could have avoided the whole damn situation by communicating.

On news the deceased mans wife said something that caught my attention "he's been doing so good since he turned his life around".... around from what, is the question...
don't threaten someone that you have a gun and approach them with your hand behind your back. What a dumb move.

Couple months ago in Forney, wife was driving in parking lot and a guy about our age almost hits us while zipping around a corner. We both stopped to avoid a collision, he rolls down the window and starts cussing my wife and she reciprocates with a sorry and explains he was driving erratically. I let it go and sit quietly while watching. So he decides she is ok and says it's all good, then turns to me and says he thinks I have a problem. I get out of the car and approach his jeep while verbalizing how he needed to address me like a man. As I got closer he rolled up his window, as I got even closer I realized he had a pistol laying across his chest pointed at me with finger on the trigger. I raised my hands up and yelled that this guy has a gun, and he sped off rapidly. Called police and they told me he could have shot me and they couldn't do a thing about it- and to strike it up as a lesson learned.
There's lots of trigger happy ppl in the world looking to shoot someone. For this reason, I do not carry a gun because of my temper. I am super nice but have my limits when it comes to my family.

I'm pretty sure that is the case. I didn't know that either until someone posted it here a couple years ago. Think it was hop that posted it. Although I don't remember that you had to have a CCL or LTC. I thought as long as it was decided the CD was in effect you were free from any civil suits.

2 bees... lesson learned. LEO said the same.

The point is- there are ppl out there looking to shoot someone. By pulling them to them somehow, they become protected under the castle law.

So he decides she is ok and says it's all good, then turns to me and says he thinks I have a problem. I get out of the car and approach his jeep while verbalizing how he needed to address me like a man. As I got closer he rolled up his window, as I got even closer I realized he had a pistol laying across his chest pointed at me with finger on the trigger.

Why does Texas Law Shield sell insurance for Civil lawsuit representation? A majority of their sales pitch is dedicated to Civil lawsuit representation.

Where is the proof that the guy threatened he had gun? Reached behind back etc. Video? Recording? Or is bit just wife of shooter and shooter??? The lack of gun would lead me to suspect that it's bs.

Why didn't he just give the guy his insurance information and tell him they would take care of the dent. Unless the victim was a total low life making a false allegation about a dent that has been there for 6 months. I realize there are those type of con artists out there too.

The moral of the story is do not tell someone you are armed when you are not.

Prayers up for victim's family and friends.



Side Note: Common since sense and good judgement goes a long way! Just my two cents.

Why does Texas Law Shield sell insurance for Civil lawsuit representation? A majority of their sales pitch is dedicated to Civil lawsuit representation.

Where is the proof that the guy threatened he had gun? Reached behind back etc. Video? Recording? Or is bit just wife of shooter and shooter??? The lack of gun would lead me to suspect that it's bs.

I completely support the second amendment, right to bear arms, and LTC, but I also completely believe that a large number of people with a LTC and who do pack heat do not have the responsibility or patience to act responsibly with it. Thankfully most never have or are put in a situation to use it.

Where is the proof that the guy threatened he had gun? Reached behind back etc. Video? Recording? Or is bit just wife of shooter and shooter??? The lack of gun would lead me to suspect that it's bs.

Sounds to me like telling someone you're armed is a fast way to escalate things in a bad way... probably never letting them know till you have to use it is a much better moral.

Someone getting shot over a parking lot ding... wow.